Caini RDG (DDR dogs)

[Johnsk9]

I was just checking out other pictures of him last night, other than the one on PDB. Good looking dog.

Sammy is line bred David

[ben]

Sammy is line bred David

ohh.. right, I knew David was somewhere in one of your dogs. It's probably the name that got stuck with me.

[Johnsk9]

ohh.. right, I knew David was somewhere in one of your dogs. It's probably the name that got stuck with me.

Yes David was a good dog but he was bred with mixed lines all the time. If you read about the offspring on the PDB these are all the mixed pups most with west and american show lines.

[ben]

Yes David was a good dog but he was bred with mixed lines all the time. If you read about the offspring on the PDB these are all the mixed pups most with west and american show lines.

Well correct me if I'm wrong but that's what they did with most DDR dogs in the States. Particularly when dogs ended up in the hands of breeders who bred for color and "nice head".

[Johnsk9]

Well correct me if I'm wrong but that's what they did with most DDR dogs in the States. Particularly when dogs ended up in the hands of breeders who bred for color and "nice head".

Yes they all wanted to improve the dogs they had.Most people any where did this and what they never thought of was
what happens when we run out of these dogs to give heavy bone bigger heads and better pigment. This is still not given much thought today

[ben]

Yes they all wanted to improve the dogs they had.Most people any where did this and what they never thought of was
what happens when we run out of these dogs to give heavy bone bigger heads and better pigment. This is still not given much thought today

To improve the dogs as far as what? Hehe.. while I think about it, you still get some heavy bone and pigment but the temperament is as good as that os any show dog. That's just my view.. Why is it that so many now look just for the outside of the dog but ignore the inside (brains).....

[ben]

Nu cred ca l-am mai postat... Carl Heinz v Wartenberg

[prototype]

Nu-mi place, nu da drumul la comanda imediat, spre final.

[ben]

Nu-mi place, nu da drumul la comanda imediat, spre final.

[ben]

am mai facut un clipuletz...

[prototype]

Masiv Zorro, in poze pare ceva mai atletic.

[ben]

Masiv Zorro, in poze pare ceva mai atletic.

A fost cu siguranta un caine tare, el in Siegerul DDRist nu se clasa sus dar a fost preferat ca reproducator si sunt convins ca nu degeaba. Imi place ca, desi a fost considerat un caine nebun de unii (i se inroseau ochii cand era agresiv etc) in clip se poate observa atasamentul de fatuca aia din cadru, as spune. Acuma nu ca am eu pata pusa pe cainii DDR, dar chiar imi place ce vad - un caine relativ masiv, calm, atasat de stapan si suspicios fatza de strain (cameraman in cazul de fatza).. mai pe scurt, descrierea unui caine tipic DDR. Cei care erau axati pe look nu au montat cu precadere cu el pe motiv ca nu avea masca pronuntata (element intalnit in linia respectiva) si ca urmare tipicitate sau expresivitate scazuta dar, repet, daca cei interesati mai mult in temperament au montat mult cu el, au avut motive sa o faca. 

He was a great dog for sure, he didn't score high in the DDR sieger but still was preferred by many for breeding and that must have been for good reasons. I like that although considered to have been crazy by some (his eyes turning red when agitated and such) in the clip you can see how attached he is to that girl. Now, I know that I love the DDR type but I actually like what I see - a pretty decent sized dog, attached to its owner and suspicious towards the stranger (camera guy).. in short, the typical DDR dog. Those looking to breed for looks may have not wanted him due to the lack of the mask (which is an element in the blood) and so less type or expression but what I wanted to underline was, if those interested in temperament bred to him, they must have had good reasons to.

[prototype]

Da, stiu ca au existat ceva discutii cu privire la echilibrul lui Zorro. In poze arata mult mai bine decat in videoul asta si asta ca aici se vede din fata si se observa ca nu are masca prea grozava, ceea ce in poze nu se vede. Totusi asta n-ar trebui sa fie un impediment la monta.
Astia care au montat doar dupa aspect, au facut CG-ul dintru inceput - care era cam uratel, sa recunoastem - un caine frumos, mai frumos, si mai frumos, pana l-au adus la asta de azi, care numai frumos nu e.

Yes, I know there have been dialogs on Zorro's balance. The dog looks better in pictures than in this video and also you can see he lacks the mask which you don't always spot out in pictures. Still, that shouldn't stop one from breeding to the dog.
Those who bred for looks mainly, turned the original dog - who was not that good looking if we're honest - into a better looking dog, to the point where the dog now looks the way it does - not that good looking at all.

[ben]

E adevarat ca toti vrem un Ciobanesc German care sa arate a Ciobanesc German si implicit daca punem la inaintare DOAR temperamentul ne trezim cu Mali sau Dutch.. ca sa ironizez putin. Ce incerc sa spun este ca dincolo de lipsa mastii respective, Zorro  LW a ramas pt multi un caine de referinta si imi place cum spunea John recent, a existat un singur Lord Gleisdreieck, un singur Zorro LW, un singur Don Rolandsteich etc.. (respectiv Troll si etc, in randul cainilor vestici). Da, a fost infrumusetata rasa pe traseu dar venise un moment cand era SUFICIENT. Pt mine, un caine cu aspectul celui din poza de jos (cel cu urechile erecte) este mai mult decat suficient de "frumos". Uita-te cata expresivitate!
(Am sa traduc, in caz ca vrea si John sa ia parte la dialog)

[guest]

In filmulet Zorro era batran deja. Personal, Ciobanescul German asa cum arata "la inceput" nu mi se parea un caine urat. A, ca erau exemplare si exemplare, asta da. Dar aspectul acesta poate fi intalnit si astazi - exemplare frumoase si exemplare mai putin frumoase sau chiar urate. "Problema", in opinia mea a fost ca unora le-a trebuit un caine frumos cand cainele...era deja frumos. Lipsa mastii nu mi se pare ca ar "taia" din expresivitatea unui caine. Poate doar din "tipicitate", iar asta datorita faptului ca, mai mult sau mai putin asa s-a impamantenit, ca Ciobanescul German sa aiba masca. Insa nu mi se pare un capat de lume.