Socialization / Socializarea

[dux]

Se stimuleaza la orice, dar daca a vazut o fiinta vie s-a terminat distractia si incepe scandalul.
A rupt toate ramurile la care a ajuns de la un pom din curte doar doar o sa ajunga la pasarea din pom.
Poate ca daca ar fi fost doar ea in perioada 3-8 luni la mine ar fi fost alta situatie, dar avand in vedere ca aveam pe cap 3 pui + nunta + renovare casa etc, nu am lucrat suficient cu ea. Dar cum timpul nu poate fi dat inapoi, regretele sunt tardive.
Problemele ei s-au "agravat" dupa ce am inceput sa o leg in curte, unde frustrarile ei au crescut exponential.

sincer sa fiu ,mie acest tip de caine imi place.sa fie ,,dinamita''.daca lucrezi atent cu-n astfel de caine faci ce vrei cu el in orice domeniu de dresaj.asa trebuie sa fie un adevarat caine de munca.instincte cat casa.

To be honest, I actually favor this type of dog. "dynamite" type. If you work carefully with such a dog you will be able to do almost anything. Actually that's the way a true working dog should be. Great drives.

[zimbris]

Was curious on the the last few posts, what you guys said.

Bogdan has described in more details his breeding female Sota Jipo me, she seems to be full of drive. If you go back you will notice I've translated some of the posts, I'll try and translate most of them. Hope it'll help  

[bobo70]

A rupt toate ramurile la care a ajuns de la un pom din curte doar doar o sa ajunga la pasarea din pom.

Inseamna ca Waldo are cui semana. E o distractie pe cinste la mine in curte cand apare o pasare. 1ha  :D

This means Waldo has someone to resemble. In my own yard is big time fun when there's a bird around. 1ha  :D

[zimbris]

Bobo,
eu nu l-as lasa pe Waldo la liber cand iti intra un 'strain' in curte, ci l-as tine in tarc... Daca era in afara curtii era alta treaba... parerea mea..    As vrea ca animalul meu (mai ales ca e in formare, sa ia in serios aspectul strainului care intra in curte; daca e liber deja se creaza spatiul pt prietenie.

Bobo,
I wouldn't let Waldo free in the yard when a stranger walks in, I would rather keep him in the kennel... If we're talking about contact with the stranger outside the yard it's a different matter... just my opinion..   I would want my dog to take seriously the "intrusion" of a stranger on my property; if the (young) dog is free to roam on the property at that time, there's a space for friendship with the stranger in development.

[bobo70]

Bobo,
eu nu l-as lasa pe Waldo la liber cand iti intra un 'strain' in curte, ci l-as tine in tarc... Daca era in afara curtii era alta treaba... parerea mea..    As vrea ca animalul meu (mai ales ca e in formare, sa ia in serios aspectul strainului care intra in curte; daca e liber deja se creaza spatiul pt prietenie.

Bobo,
I wouldn't let Waldo free in the yard when a stranger walks in, I would rather keep him in the kennel... If we're talking about contact with the stranger outside the yard it's a different matter... just my opinion..   I would want my dog to take seriously the "intrusion" of a stranger on my property; if the (young) dog is free to roam on the property at that time, there's a space for friendship with the stranger in development.

Da. Si eu cred ca ar trebui sa fac ceva. M-am gandit sa nu-l izolez inca de oameni chiar si in curte, dar de acum o sa cam iau masuri si-l voi separa de restul strainilor care intra in curte, a cam trecut vremea jocului cu orice pret.

[zimbris]

Dar sunt convins ca-mi intelegi opinia...  vreau ca joaca sa fie joaca si seriosul sa fie serios.. intelegi la ce ma refer.

[Man Stopper]

Bogdan has described in more details his breeding female Sota Jipo me, she seems to be full of drive. If you go back you will notice I've translated some of the posts, I'll try and translate most of them. Hope it'll help  

Thanks for the translation Dani, appreciate that..
With a female like Sota , i believe that she was socialized and trained.. And yet sounds like shes a crazy fired up bitch dominant and all....
If she had not been socialized and trained very little, what kind of bitch would she be to own ?

[Man Stopper]

Sota se urca pe toti cainii si ii "reguleaza"!
Acum incer sa o supraalimentez sa prinda in greutate si sa oboseasca mai repede.
Am observat ca daca e obosita bine mai ai cu cine"vorbi".

Sota mounts most dogs in her path and "humps" them!
I am actually looking to overfeed her so she gets tired quicker.
I noticed when she is tired it's easier to "connect" with her.

What kind of stud dog is best suited to Sota, with her having this character.. ?
I would think a male of higher defense drive, as she has plenty of prey to contribute...

[Bogdan]

Sota se urca pe toti cainii si ii "reguleaza"!
Acum incer sa o supraalimentez sa prinda in greutate si sa oboseasca mai repede.
Am observat ca daca e obosita bine mai ai cu cine"vorbi".

Sota mounts most dogs in her path and "humps" them!
I am actually looking to overfeed her so she gets tired quicker.
I noticed when she is tired it's easier to "connect" with her.

What kind of stud dog is best suited to Sota, with her having this character.. ?
I would think a male of higher defense drive, as she has plenty of prey to contribute...

I will bred Sota only with male who can pass confidence to his pups. Sota have also defensive reaction.

[crazywind]

Al meu n-are treaba cu strainii cand suntem pe-afara, mai latra la caini dar nu la toti...in schimb daca mergem in vizita la niste prieteni care au curte, imediat isi ia rolul in primire si latra la oricine le deschide poarta. Desi nu e casa lui acolo.

[Man Stopper]

When socialising a young pup with the streets/people, and you notice dramatic confidence, would it be a better to minimise daytime socialisation.. And focus on evening/night walks where it's dark/qiute, this i feel can give some indication of character type...I mean wouldn't suspicion behaviour most likely occur after 11 PM in the night ? Just curious what you guys think...

Cand socializezi catelul cu strada / trecatorii si se observa incrdere f mare, e bine sa se minimalizeze timpul de socializare diurna.. si sa se dea atentie mai multa plimbarilor de seara/noapte, tind sa cred ca asta ar indica mai bine nivelul de incredere / tipul caracterului... vreau sa zic, in mod normal, comportamentul suspicios se instaleaza dupa orele 11 seara, nu? sunt curios sa aflu ce credeti..

[Man Stopper]

Have been socializing Casso and have noticed that he's lost some of that suspicion towards strangers.. Is there such a thing as over socialisng, or is it a case that he's more confident and not threatened ? Not sure how to take it

[Man Stopper]

After reading the article John had posted, in where it mentions that the dog must know your the Super Alpha, and must know only one person who trains,feeds and socializes etc.. So when is the right time to introduce family members to the young pup, and would too much contact by others have a negative affect on the crucial early stages of upbringing..

[Leo Pui]

After reading the article John had posted, in where it mentions that the dog must know your the Super Alpha, and must know only one person who trains,feeds and socializes etc.. So when is the right time to introduce family members to the young pup, and would too much contact by others have a negative affect on the crucial early stages of upbringing..

I am sharing my point of view ...

I am fine with my young pup (below one year old) playing and get contact with my family / team member as long as both parties know how to respect each other.  I found this such of "contact" are good in building up their socialization's needs!

The one so-called his trainer MUST play fair in every exercise in-order for the said pup to have confident toward!

[sergiu]

Bravo!
Expuneti cainele la cat mai multe situatii, cum spuneam si, atunci veti vedea de ce e in stare cu adevarat cainele, cat ii permite genetica.

Impartasesc aceasta afirmatie!
Al meu Moran(nu in eng ), cand il scot din curte este agitat, se comporta diferit intr-un mediu necunoscut! Nu stiu sigur cum ar fi mai bine sa-l fac mai sociabil. Probabil sa-l i-au cu mine peste tot, atunci cand se poate.
Desi, a iesi cu cainele la o plimabare in oras(pe deal-uri iasa)ii o adevarata provocare, hartuit de la iesire si pana la intoarcere de maidanezi! Probema ii ca si cainele ii provoaca, transmite provocari!
Voi cum procedati?