Narys Policia Slovakia

[Man Stopper]

Here are a few of Faro Policia at the rip age of 11 yrs old courtesy Of Daryl Ehret which owns him now. Not sure as to if Faro is still with us as these pictures were taken a couple years back which would make him now almost 14 yrs old

I like this photo of Faro..
Looking at his pic at a young age on the DB, he has the similar muzzle shape as Bero on side profile.
As does Titus and Lido Jamirex, i like this side of genetics via Held and Bero..
Tell you the truth its the best thing i like about my dog Casso who has alot of similarity to Bero,well i like to think so anyway

[Man Stopper]

Chuck would you have any info on Gunner Vom Ramhausen ?
As in character and/or workabilty, i very much like his head strength..

[zimbris]

Not many guys will show there dogs on video, to show the true colours of the dog.. Especially out of it's comfort zone, out of the normal same old training ground..

totally agree!
OR, they show you a dog biting the sleeve but hey, you could get a really crappy dog to do that and look really impressive both on video and in real life. In this forum, some of us like myself, Santos, Tessa and a few more could tell the colors of the dog just by watching the dog reacting to a stranger, no sleeve no nothing in the picture. Funny enough, we are criticized on that basis and we are told the WUSV champion is IT. I actually feel sorry for such people but that's a different story.

[zimbris]

As i said reading Daryl's posts on Jacques forum, he gave me the impression of being very straight and fair in his views..

I got nothing against Daryl, never interacted with him as far as I remember but in forums (and back then particularly on Domburgerland) I noted many praised this and that dog so they can sell their pups / dogs (again I say this, don't get me wrong, I am not making a direct reference to Daryl E). There comes a point when someone would be very interested to purchase a dog through a forum, simply because that forum is a very popular one.. I think of one or two who have done that already and they were not exactly impressed with what they got. From a starting point they were drawn in to make the purchase because of the bloodlines BUT, just because a dog comes from a specific bloodline, it won't automatically mean the produced dog will be a good one. Some of the DDR dogs out there who got very well known dogs in their blood are actually very soft dogs and looks is all they could be praised on.
There seems to be a "quiet" respect for those who have actually sold crappy dogs (and I can think of particular Czech breeders right now) simply because they are big names, but the current state of the GSD demands some action. If we stay quiet and just keep going, before we know it we will be left with sport dogs and show dogs and.. just that.
Some breeders yes, they had it all UP TO  A POINT where they sold all they had good and now they sell crap but people would still buy from them because of their reputation.
It didn't take me long to see what went on in some international, big forums.. and I am glad I for one did not go for all the praises and took no bull. People like Reg, Roger and John were those who had their eyes opened and I am glad all three are part of this forum. Chances are some crappy dogs will also be advertised here, although so far we have been really, really lucky in that respect, but dogs aside, we got REAL people here and I for one, am honored.

[Man Stopper]

I admire the way you state your point of view Dani and there's much more for us to gain if we keep it for real...!
A picture tells a thousand words,but when this picture is in motion(video) it can in a sense give us a bit more than just words and BS..
Would be more upfront if breeders both West and East would promote there stock on video, such as Santos does which we all should very much respect..
 

[zimbris]

Well, as you know, even with videos you can fool one's eyes and mind, like I said sleeve work doesn't show the true colors of a dog; we could say the same about hidden sleeve or bite suit; it's just a routine the dog has gone through before and know what to expect.
I don't care about the "oh your dog looks so fine" type forums, I hope this one will be the "let's do something about the GS dog" type. And, in the end it's what we produce that shows where we stand, do we walk the talk or not.

[Man Stopper]

True Dani repetitive training and common grounds are as we know routine..
There wouldn't be too many breeders that would 'walk there talk' with there K9..
To talk is Nickel
To do is Gold...!

[zimbris]

To talk is Nickel
To do is Gold...!

 

[ShepherdsByDesignK9]

I got nothing against Daryl, never interacted with him as far as I remember but in forums (and back then particularly on Domburgerland) I noted many praised this and that dog so they can sell their pups / dogs (again I say this, don't get me wrong, I am not making a direct reference to Daryl E). There comes a point when someone would be very interested to purchase a dog through a forum, simply because that forum is a very popular one..

There seems to be a "quiet" respect for those who have actually sold crappy dogs (and I can think of particular Czech breeders right now) simply because they are big names, but the current state of the GSD demands some action. If we stay quiet and just keep going, before we know it we will be left with sport dogs and show dogs and.. just that.
Some breeders yes, they had it all UP TO  A POINT where they sold all they had good and now they sell crap but people would still buy from them because of their reputation.
It didn't take me long to see what went on in some international, big forums.. and I am glad I for one did not go for all the praises and took no bull. People like Reg, Roger and John were those who had their eyes opened and I am glad all three are part of this forum. Chances are some crappy dogs will also be advertised here, although so far we have been really, really lucky in that respect, but dogs aside, we got REAL people here and I for one, am honored.

Dan I have some respect from Daryl,  But I really lost a bunch when I was trying to gather information about Faro.  Being that I built a major part of my kennel around Faro. When I called Daryl about information about Faro he really didn't or wasn't willing to share what he knew about a dog in which was in his kennel at the time I was asking him.

I also know of some of the big Czech breeders in the Czech Republic that have a good strangle hold onto the market when it comes to dogs available to the U.S. John and I have discussed these 2 people one in the Czech Republic and the other here in the U.S. . You couldn't give me one of the dogs due to many here that have got screwed by these people. What really surprises me that with all the bad business that have been done with people I have read about, that they still have such a following and are able to still sell their crap over and over again.

Chuck would you have any info on Gunner Vom Ramhausen ?
As in character and/or workabilty, i very much like his head strength..

Gunner is a full brother to my Ghost only a couple years younger. He is a littermate to Hanibal Vom Ramhausen.  Gunner looks like a typical Narys Policia and Anzeleka Van Den Heuvel offspring. Narys has a litter mate named Nelson Policia Slovakia, but I have never got a chance to find him or who owns him today if he is still with us.
Here is the line breeding in Nary's breeding which there is only one dog I would have feared when putting this pedigree together and also what could have made this a magic breeding

    4 - 4............................................. in SG Grischa vom Schwarzen Milan
    5 - 5............................................. in V Pascha vom Glockeneck
    5 - 5............................................. in SG Ina vom Jaresberg
    4 - 4............................................. in Gita Salrak CS
    5 - 5............................................. in Tedd ze Simone
    5 - 5............................................. in Ciba Salrak

Grisha Vom Schwarzen Milan what an awesome worker and great nerve and a real man stopper, but was mildly displastic. As I have found out that he produced the famous Cega B litter which all the litter had great hips and working abilities just like their sire. I feel those were great dogs of our past and you see many dogs today with a B Cega in the lines

[zimbris]

What really surprises me that with all the bad business that have been done with people I have read about, that they still have such a following and are able to still sell their crap over and over again.

that is so true!!!

[zimbris]

Grisha Vom Schwarzen Milan what an awesome worker and great nerve and a real man stopper, but was mildly displastic. As I have found out that he produced the famous Cega B litter which all the litter had great hips and working abilities just like their sire. I feel those were great dogs of our past and you see many dogs today with a B Cega in the lines

Sounds like you have actually seen this dog personally? 

[ShepherdsByDesignK9]

Sounds like you have actually seen this dog personally? 

Dan I only wish I had the chance to see this awesome male first hand, but I'm going by what I have learned from those who have had the opportunity to see him first hand. What I have been told is that Grisha has had some influence in the genetic back ground of his prodigy. Not always has it been good for hip production, but has good influence in all working end of his genetics. This is where some have went away from his lines due to hip issues, but you and I know that when a dog is weak in one area we bring strong genetics in the said weak point to improve on it. He was one of the types of dogs we grew up looking at, not these damn sport dogs we so often find now   

[zimbris]

here's what seems to be a more recent picture of Faro, but slightly Photoshopped
this is from Daryl's website.

[ShepherdsByDesignK9]

Nice picture of him, I would be interested to see if he is still among the living as he would be 14 now if I am correct. Maybe Sunday afternoon i will call Daryl's ex-wife that now owns him to see if he is still with us or passed away. I know she has some of his frozen semen stored

[ShepherdsByDesignK9]

Here is a current picture of Narys taken last week