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« on: December 28, 2011, 01:54:53 PM »
Here are a few pictures to hold you until I can locate his video's. one of these photo's are of him @ 3 years old and the rest are recent pictures of him as he just turned 11 yrs old in November and still demands attention as if he was a youngster. He has produced some nice dog in his breeding career which I am lucky to have had 2 sons of his here Ghost and Titus, although we lost Titus in October of Lymphoma cancer at the young age of 8 yrs old. And the 2nd to last photo is of Narys and his late mate Rena Zlodef Slnecnic ( Car Policia daughter and the dam to our Titus Vom Ramhausen ). We do have 1 breeding planned for Narys in 2012




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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 11:28:50 PM »
He definitely has that look of the old Czech dog, thick bones, dark sable.. in that first, smaller picture, he looks fantastic!

Are intr-adevar aspectul cainelui tipic cehesc, oase groase, sur inchis.. in prima poza, cea mica, arata superb!

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 11:32:11 PM »
He definitely has that look of the old Czech dog, thick bones, dark sable.. in that first, smaller picture, he looks fantastic!

Are intr-adevar aspectul cainelui tipic cehesc, oase groase, sur inchis.. in prima poza, cea mica, arata superb!


In the other pictures he has some age to him and we don't work him very hard anymore in fear of injury. I will have to locate the picture of him, Titus his son and Tyson his grandson and you will be able to see that this line hasn't changed much as long as you breed to the correct dogs
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 11:39:34 PM »
Well now, looking forward to those pictures.
What's your say on Faro dogs..? Or on Faro altogether..  I think the toughest dogs I've seen, of Czech lines, came from Faro and Mambo (although there's west blood in Mambo, too).

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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 12:34:10 AM »
Well now, looking forward to those pictures.
What's your say on Faro dogs..? Or on Faro altogether..  I think the toughest dogs I've seen, of Czech lines, came from Faro and Mambo (although there's west blood in Mambo, too).

What I do know about Faro was that he was an hip improver which came from his dam Fattyma, As for the type of dog he was I have received conflicting information. I was told he wasn't as dominant dog as what I like to see in my guy's. I will give that up to get the dogs that will improve on hips, this is why I have built my kennel around Faro. I have a son and a daughter     ( Narys Policia Slovakia & Pandora Van Den Heuvel ) and sons and daughters of theirs here. Last year I did a 3/3 line breed on Faro and other dogs which proved to be very successful. Here is the pedigree in which produced this awesome litter

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=731894

I will be repeating a close to this breeding although the sire will be Ghost instead of Titus due to Titus passing away in October. I wish I could only get another male or female from frozen Faro semen to continue to do these type of breeding for the future. I feel this is how I will be able to preserve Faro's lines for the future.

Now you talk about Mambo z Pohranicni Straze, I'm not really a person in which likes what Mambo has produced in the U.S., Maybe it could have been the pairings or maybe issues that are popping up from Mambo'a sire as he wasn't a great producer in my eyes. Only time will tell how great of a dog he is from all of his offspring and what they produced
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 12:45:28 AM »
Now you talk about Mambo z Pohranicni Straze, I'm not really a person in which likes what Mambo has produced in the U.S., Maybe it could have been the pairings or maybe issues that are popping up from Mambo'a sire as he wasn't a great producer in my eyes. Only time will tell how great of a dog he is from all of his offspring and what they produced
Well.. I received conflicting info (to use the term you did) on Mambo, coming from the States. Some say he ain't all that of a producer and some say Mambo is the only dog they would use in their breeding.. I guess it does come down to what females he was bred.
From a very reliable source I also know he has produced some bad elbows, but again, so far we have had some good dogs around here, out of Mambo, mainly through Cheros Policia Slovakia.

I love it when, checking out the pedigree above, I bump into DDR dogs not far back  :cool:

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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 01:05:45 AM »
I am not trying to upset you in any way Dan. I hope you are not getting your information from Hans @ Alpine K-9 as he and Jiri were the one responsible for bring him to the U.S. and I do believe Jiri actually owned Mambo before being imported here. I know that Hans will talk a big story about this boy and does own one of his sons also, but won't be the most honest when it comes to any faults Mambo may have or produce.  As for a producer I can't say for sure I would like to go to any of his lines, but this is only my opinion. As you know I'm not afraid to speak my peace when it comes to the dogs and their lines as you have seen on my forum too many times. It must be the passion I have for this wonderful breed I call the German Shepherd

Well it is 2am here and I need to get much sleep as I will have a kennel full of dogs demanding my presence first thing in the morning...lol
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 01:57:34 AM »
Yeah. actually I was just thinking, you must be staying up really, really late
Chuck, even if anyone here were to upset me, I'd rather they were honest all the way. The GSD breed is not doing well and we need to put things on the table, the way they are, that's fact!
NO! I am not getting my info from Hans, no disrespect to Hans and / or Jiri, but that wouldn't be my source of info, in fact I could take down quite a few of their statements. I respect Jiri as a long term character in the world of the GSD but Hans is a different story. But I guess that won't make for a topic in my forum. I'd rather people draw conclusions out of facts, time will tell who does / did what.
I will publicly tell you John LaTorre is the only one I am open to learn from, he's a man who loves what he does and not driven by money, nor is he one that breeds the heck out of his dogs.

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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2011, 07:37:27 AM »
frumos caine si cred ca are si un temperament bun
fine looking dog and I bet he has a good temperament

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2011, 10:18:29 AM »
Here is the picture I promised to post of Narys, Titus his son and grandson Tyson. You will see there is lots of similarities between the 3 of them

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 10:24:06 AM »
as vrea sa vad reactia la o persoana straina Nu vreau sa vad cum musca la manson

I would like to see his reaction to a stranger. I'm not interested in his sleeve bite.

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 11:32:09 AM »
Here is the picture I promised to post of Narys, Titus his son and grandson Tyson. You will see there is lots of similarities between the 3 of them
they all look awesome! I love that structure!

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 11:34:23 AM »
as vrea sa vad reactia la o persoana straina Nu vreau sa vad cum musca la manson

I would like to see his reaction to a stranger. I'm not interested in his sleeve bite.

If you are talking about Narys, This is the whole reason I have him as he had a person walk up to him while he was on a leash and when they reached out to pet him they found that he was very protective over his handler. Narys grabbed the person by the arm and flipped them onto the ground in which from the crushing strength of his jaws broke the persons arm.  When Narys was a year old I was told that with the deal that was struck with the Policia kennel in which to sell him he was to be shipped back and worked for the full year in which this time he had his Hip ratings done and also had a ZVV-1 title put on him. At 2 years old he was released from the Policia kennels and went back to South Carolina until his owner decided to quit breeding. He was then sold to a young man that really didn't understand this type of dog. I was then contacted by the original owners and was told if I could get Narys out of Canada that I could have him, so I drove up to Canada and smuggled him out as the Canadian courts had placed an order for Narys to be destroyed.

So today he is enjoying his retirement here with no worry's about anything harming him. I feel that this was his 2nd owners fault for this happening as Narys was trained to be this way and only acted in best interests in his owners safety.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2011, 11:35:48 AM »
wow... I love what I read here..

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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
Maybe on one of my next trip to the States I can pay you a short visit.. I will contact you in detail when that's going to happen.