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ben

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« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2012, 01:42:07 PM »
Daca asta se intampla de fiecare data sau de obicei dupa ce se distreaza cu un os de vita, eu unul cel putin nu i-as mai da asa ceva.

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« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2012, 01:17:35 AM »
Se intampla de ficere data, fara exceptie. Imi pare rau pt bucuria ei insa nu o a mai primeasca oase. Gasim noi altceva mai putin chinuitor.

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« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2012, 01:29:28 AM »
Se intampla de ficere data, fara exceptie. Imi pare rau pt bucuria ei insa nu o a mai primeasca oase. Gasim noi altceva mai putin chinuitor.
Da, cred ca e mai bine asa.

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« Reply #123 on: November 21, 2012, 08:48:50 AM »
Bone as a food supplement?
I use Bone meal ground it is much safer.
Bone meal for dogs is packed with calcium, phosphorous, protein and minerals that dogs need for good health. Bone meal is made from the crushed bones and hooves of animals that have been slaughtered for food or other commercial uses. Adding bone meal to your dog's food supports his digestion, and helps keep him healthy.

What Bone Meal Is

Bone meal is made from the bones and hooves of slaughtered cattle and other animals. It's used in fertilizers, animal feed, adhesives like glue and gelatin.

Once upon a time, bone meal was widely used in the animal feed industry, and as a human nutritional supplement, until fears of bovine spongiform encephalitis (mad cow disease) stopped its widespread use in most large animal feeds and human dietary supplements. Dogs, however, aren't susceptible to mad cow disease, which means that your dog can safely eat bone meal and enjoy its benefits.

Benefits of Bone Meal for Dogs

Bone meal contains many nutrient minerals, including phosphorous, which can help your dog's body to better absorb other nutrients and aid digestion. Bone meal can help soothe difficult digestion in dogs with flatulence and diarrhea. It also contains calcium, which your dog needs for strong bones and teeth. In addition to minerals, bone meal contains a rich supply of fat and protein. You can mix bone meal into your dog's food as a beneficial dietary supplement.

Choose Bone Meal for Your Dog

Don't buy bone meal from the home and garden department. These bone meals contain toxic fertilizers which can poison your dog. Feed stores and pet stores carry bone meal that's intended for consumption by animals. Avoid bone meals that contain added vitamin D.

Making Bone Meal for Your Dog

If you have some extra time and want to save money, you can make your own bone meal for dogs at home. Poultry bones are a good choice, since they splinter and break easily. You've probably heard that you're not supposed to give chicken or other poultry bones to your dog; that's because they could easily splinter, injuring his digestive tract. If the bones are already ground up into bone meal, you don't have to worry about this.

To make bone meal at home, save the cooked bones from your chicken or turkey dinner. Chop them into small pieces while they are still soft and moist; this will make them easier to grind up. Dry the bones thoroughly before grinding them to powder in a spice grinder.

You don't have to use left over bones from your meal. Procure beef and other bones from your local supermarket's butcher, and then follow the same process. Boil or steam raw bones to soften them before you cut them into smaller pieces.

If you don't want to be bothered grinding up bones, then simply boil them for several hours to extract all the nutrients. You can then feed your dog this liquid in the place of bone meal.



 

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« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2012, 09:02:02 AM »
If you don't want to be bothered grinding up bones, then simply boil them for several hours to extract all the nutrients. You can then feed your dog this liquid in the place of bone meal.
Oh, that sounds to be the better choice for me  :lol: While I was reading the entire post from the beginning, I was wondering how on earth would I actually grind bones? It's probably harder than it sounds.. so boiling them to get those ingredients out sounds to be a much easier job I guess.

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« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2012, 09:07:13 AM »
Beef has a higher protein and with organ parts of animal with chicken carcass's work well, especially in growing phase..!
And tuna is great with the Omega oil factor...
You have to be careful with Tuna it is known for having  mercury

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« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2012, 09:21:16 AM »
You have to be careful with Tuna it is known for having  mercury

I've been feeding my dogs fish very scarcely lately.

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« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2012, 07:21:33 AM »
 Si eu credca trebuie sa renunti la os daca se constipa in asemenea hal!Totusi, in caz ca se mai intampla, da-i putin unt.

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« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2012, 08:29:32 AM »
Apropos de oasele astea de vita. Cassy a mea primeste odata pe sapt. cate un femur de vita pe care de cele mai multe ori il mananca tot, sau ma rog, pana mai ramane putin din el. Problema mea e urmatoarea: Dupa ce manca osul ala, face caca niste bulgarasi deschisi la culoare si foarte tari, atat de tari incat se chinuie saraca sa-i faca si tipa de durere de ti se rupe inima si asta vre-o 2-3 zile dupa si de 4-5-6 ori pe zi (adica ii face cate putin). Acum eu sunt in dilema: Sa-i mai dau osul ala care-i place atat de mult si sa o las sa se chinuie sa-l dea afara sau sa nu il mai dau? Ai vostrii dupa ce mananca oase cum fac?

 
Poti incerca sa  fierbi putin oasele ,chiar si un clocot doar,  si apoi fiertura sa-i fie apa de baut. De mult timp procedez asa si au scapat cainii de chin ,scaunul nu mai e uscat si faramicios .

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« Reply #129 on: November 24, 2012, 08:43:05 AM »
Prin ce se remarca acea fiertura de oase? Din cate stiu eu, oasele nu au cine stie ce aport nutritional. De regula dadeam la caine pentru ca sa-si curete dintii - acolo face intr-adevar minuni un os. In rest, prefer sa-i dau carne cruda sau sa fierb oasele si sa scot maduva. Dar osul in sine nu-l dadeam la caine prea des, la Manto nici macar nu i-am dat pana acum asa ceva.

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« Reply #130 on: November 24, 2012, 09:19:06 AM »
 Era vorba de zeama in care au fost fierte oasele. Nu m-a deranjat niciodata sa le dau crud dar atata timp cat nu le dau si zeama in care au fost fierte oase ,se constipa de le plang de mila . Oasele  nu mi-au inlocuit niciodata hrana cainilor pe ziua respectiva ci au fost doar supliment . Problema asta nu am avuto cu un caine sau doi ci cu majoritatea si au fost destui . 

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« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2012, 12:37:20 AM »
Vorbeam recent cu John, el suplimenteaza masa cainilor cu cruditati si nu numai. De ceva timp incoace imi tot spune ca e mai bine sa fierbi oasele, din simplul motiv ca exista paraziti si pt siguranta animalilui e mai nine un clocot acolo... asta chiar daca multi spun ca prin procesare termica nutrientii isi pierd din putere, proteina fiind cred, cea mai afectata (isi schimba structura). Adevarul e ca ai mei de multe ori dupa ce mananca cruditati au scaun moale. Acuma nu stiu, asta se poate datora proteinei sau parazitilor, dar decat sa risc, mai bine schimb placa cu cruditatile. E discutabila treaba asta cu aportul de proteinele si sursa de provenienta, putem invata din toate astea. Calciu, crud vs gatit, toate astea sunt subiecte bune.

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« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2012, 12:56:27 AM »
Pt Lukas oasele le dau un clocot ( nu se fierb complet dar nici nu raman crude) tot din cauza diferitelor bacterii de pe suprafata, organele le primeste fierte, carnea de vita o primea pe jumatate fiarta, doar morcovi, broccoli etc le primeste crude.

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« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2012, 01:06:26 AM »
Tara primea regulat inimi si ficat de pui si de vita crude, a primit asa toata viata. Le "devora" pur si simplu, ii placeau tare mult. Mai primea si carne de vita, tot cruda. Pentru Manto am fiert putin carnea, fiind inca pui, poate stomacul nu se "descurca" cu ea cruda.

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« Reply #134 on: November 25, 2012, 01:09:22 AM »
 Eu nu i-am fiert carnea Nisei niciodata, fie ca e de pui, fie ca e de vita.Oasele fierte sunt mai periculoase deoarece devin casante si cred ca riscul de constipatie e si mai mare in cazul administrarii lor.