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Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1425 on: March 08, 2013, 10:21:50 AM »
Musca bine Hun.

Cam cate kg are? Vad ca atentatorul il "poarta" destul de usor. Ziceai ca face rugby?
Musca FOARTE bine Hun; vino la CT la vara si mergem la un antrenament.
Mai ce sa zic.. trebuie sa-l cantaresc ca sa pot da un raspuns corect. Da Andi are 25 de ani de rugby in spate si e si tamplar, deci e obisnuit cu lucrul fizic.
Sunt foarte multumit de Hun!

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1426 on: March 08, 2013, 10:23:20 AM »
Da, imi place ca nu ramane fix pe manson - nu ma refer la scuturat.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1427 on: March 08, 2013, 10:26:38 AM »
Cum spuneam si anticipam prin prisma jucatului cu perna premergatoare lucrului pe manson, are priza beton.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1428 on: March 08, 2013, 12:10:28 PM »
mi ar placea un film la manson de aproape. as vrea sa te concentrezi la capul cainelui in film ... asa pentru sufletul meu  :cheesy:   sunt anumite lucruri care imi plac sa le vad la un caine si din distanta filmarii nu imi dau seama exact daca sunt acolo
imi place cainele, consider ca este in crestere in sensul ca este genul de caine care copilareste mai mult.

I would like to see a close up on the head during a bite session.. it would make my day..
I like noticing certain things in a dog and when footage is taken from a distance I can't really tell much. I like the dog, I consider him to be still developing in the way that he is a type of dog who's childish for longer period of time

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1429 on: March 08, 2013, 12:32:05 PM »
Filmarea e facuta cu telefonul de un prieten, care nu se pricepe la asa ceva. Oricum, filmari am sa tot fac, am motivele mele.

The footage was taken by phone, used by a friend who's not into filming and such. Anyway, there will be plenty video clips, I got my reasons to do that.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1430 on: March 08, 2013, 12:42:49 PM »
consider ca este in crestere in sensul ca este genul de caine care copilareste mai mult.
I consider him to be still developing in the way that he is a type of dog who's childish for longer period of time
Nu stiu ce anume te-a determinat sa spui asta, dar..
Hun este caine de linie DDR; se tot vorbeste pe net ca tipul DDR se maturizeaza mai lent. Pt multi, afirmatia asta e frectie pe picior de lemn; eu nu am vrut sa ma pronunt decat in momentul in care am pe mana caine DDR. Intradevar Hun s-a maturizat "lent" in opinia mea si inca mai are drum de parcurs in privinta asta.

I don't know what made you say that but..
Hun is a DDR dog; it's been said many times that DDR dogs mature slow. To many, that is crap talk; I held my thoughts in place until I actually had some DDR dogs so I can get hands on. Indeed I would say Hun matured slow and there's more to cover.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1431 on: March 08, 2013, 01:00:01 PM »
Nu stiu ce anume te-a determinat sa spui asta, dar..
Hun este caine de linie DDR; se tot vorbeste pe net ca tipul DDR se maturizeaza mai lent. Pt multi, afirmatia asta e frectie pe picior de lemn; eu nu am vrut sa ma pronunt decat in momentul in care am pe mana caine DDR. Intradevar Hun s-a maturizat "lent" in opinia mea si inca mai are drum de parcurs in privinta asta.
am urmarit filmele si am ajuns la concluzia asta. sunt multi caini care se maturizeaza mai greu.   multi crescatori evita genul asta de caine, personal cred ca daca ai rabdare cu genul asta de caine atingi la cel mai inalt nivel indiferent de directia alesa. personal urmaresc deja puii sa vad daca o sa ne inrudim la un moment dat.
sper ca ma primesti si pe mine la un antrenament intr o zi.

I watched the videos you posted in time and that's how I reached this conclusion. Many breeders avoid this type of dog, I for one believe that if you got patience to go with breeding these dogs you get the highest results regarding of the goal. I am monitoring the pups Hun produced to see if maybe we can arrange a breeding project. I hope you can count me in for a training session at some point.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1432 on: March 08, 2013, 01:04:57 PM »
:)

La un antrenament desigur; cu inruditul lucrez doar pe linie DDR, este directia luata de mine cu ceva timp in urma.

Revenind la aspectul maturizare lenta - am citit / m-am documentat mult, foarte mult (pe parcursul a 3 ani ce putin) inainte de a alege liniile estice (cu precadere DDR) si am citit clar, in comunitati online gen Leerburg ca, intradevar liniile DDR se "coc" mai greu, nu toate, dar majoritatea. Recent, tot din dialoguri online, am inteles ca se aplica si in liniile vestice. Depinde cat de bine cunosti liniile in parte. Nu ma intereseaza ca se "coace" cainele mai lent, atata timp cat sunt multumit de rezultatul final.

Voi traduce pt ca stiu ca topicul lui Hun este urmarit din mai multe patratele de pe glob.

Sure, you're more than welcome to join a training session, but as far as breeding, I only go DDR.
Now, back to talking slow maturing; I spent long time (more than 3 years) just getting info on the various bloodlines and ultimately decided east bloodlines (DDR particularly) are closer to the old type dog and I read in several online communities, such as Leerburg that, DDR bloodlines mature slow indeed; not all but most. Recently I came to learn that it applies to west lines as well, one just needs to know the bloodlines well. I don't mind the slow maturing process as long as the final outcome is worth it.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1433 on: March 08, 2013, 01:05:20 PM »
Parca John spunea ca unii caini se maturizeaza dupa ce ating varsta de trei ani.

I think it was John saying that some dogs reach adulthood at the age of 3.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1434 on: March 08, 2013, 01:09:09 PM »
la inrudire m am referit la monta. nu o sa il imperchezi cu femele care nu apartin viziunii tale?

I meant dog breeding. Will you not breed bitches that do not match your goals, to Hun?

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1435 on: March 08, 2013, 01:12:34 PM »
Voi traduce pt ca stiu ca topicul lui Hun este urmarit din mai multe patratele de pe glob.

Pana in momentul de fatza am trei cereri de material seminal marca Hun, de pe continente indepartate.

Parca John spunea ca unii caini se maturizeaza dupa ce ating varsta de trei ani.
Din ce inteleg si eu de la altii, respectiv ce-mi mai spune si Dux care a avut multi caini pe mana, cam pe la 3 ani chiar 4 ating maturitatea. Dar unele exemplare arata instincte puternice inca de la 6, 7 luni de viatza. Cu Ben am avut primul caz de muscatura cu mers la medic si prezentat carnetul de vaccinari al cainelui cand avea 6 luni.. sau 7, nu mai tin minte, sincer.
Ideea e ca, daca vrei caine pt lucru de politie, inteleg ca e de dorit ca animalul sa se "coaca" cat mai repede. Dar acum depinde.. de mai multe, de linia genetica, de asteptari.. astea doua sunt primele care imi vin in minte.

From what I get from others, such as Dux, who's seen many a dog, most dogs would reach adulthood at about 3, even 4 years. But some individuals will show sharp instincts from as early as 6 months, Ben was 6 or 7 months when he had his first real serious bite.
Now, if you want a police service dog, I can understand why you would want the drives to kick in quicker... But you got to consider a few things I guess, such as bloodline and individual expectations - those are the top two that come to mind.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1436 on: March 08, 2013, 01:13:19 PM »
la inrudire m am referit la monta. nu o sa il imperchezi cu femele care nu apartin viziunii tale?
Da, la monta m-am referit si eu :) Da, numai cu femele DDR il voi monta sau, voi face exceptie cu femele din anumite linii cehesti. La ce catea te gandesti cand vorbesti de "inrudire"?

Sure, dog breeding was what I meant, too. Indeed, I will only breed Hun to DDR bitches; I may make some exceptions in the case of bitches of certain CZ bloodlines.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1437 on: March 08, 2013, 01:23:07 PM »
Cu Ben am avut primul caz de muscatura cu mers la medic si prezentat carnetul de vaccinari al cainelui cand avea 6 luni.. sau 7, nu mai tin minte, sincer.

Banuiesc ca nu l-ai agitat cu carpa de mic. :lol:

I presume you didn't do any rag agitation with him as a pup.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1438 on: March 08, 2013, 01:25:20 PM »
Banuiesc ca nu l-ai agitat cu carpa de mic. :lol:
Categoric, nu.
Not at all.

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Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
« Reply #1439 on: March 17, 2013, 11:28:08 AM »
Stick fun