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CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
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Offline hora

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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #225 on: February 23, 2013, 11:37:45 AM »
Quote from: ben on February 23, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Bine-nteles ca se poate, iar tu ai vazut deja cazuri destule, banuiesc, pt ca te-ai umblat ceva timp in zona "show". Eu am intrat doar putin in zona aia si mi-am vazut rapid de ale mele  :grin:

Da, am vazut si stii ce am realizat? Ca in lumea show-ului, cel mai tare ma enerveaza oamenii! Cainii nu sunt decat niste victime nevinovate.
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #226 on: February 23, 2013, 11:49:56 AM »
Quote from: hora on February 23, 2013, 11:37:45 AM
Da, am vazut si stii ce am realizat? Ca in lumea show-ului, cel mai tare ma enerveaza oamenii! Cainii nu sunt decat niste victime nevinovate.
Bine-nteles ca nu cainii sunt de vina, in spate se afla omul care hotaraste ce sa faca; omul a facut rasa si omul o distruge; kill-aritul a inceput inca de la fratii Martin deci baza genetica in momentul de fatza e "lejer" compromisa. Dar ca sa raman in culoarea topicului.. e de ras.. (sau plans, nici nu mai stiu) ce vedem in clip.
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #227 on: February 23, 2013, 01:33:24 PM »
Si stii ce e iarasi grav? Ca nu sunt semne de revenire. Cel putin nu in Romania. Crescatorii de caini de show habar n-au de selectie, ori se fac. Reproduc si vand in disperare pe considerente de culoare. Pentru ei conformatia corecta e ceva neglijabil. Unii sustin chiar ca anumite defect sunt de fapt caracteristici ale ciobanescului german....
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #228 on: February 23, 2013, 01:58:53 PM »
Quote from: hora on February 23, 2013, 01:33:24 PM
Unii sustin chiar ca anumite defect sunt de fapt caracteristici ale ciobanescului german....
:grin:  ...imi amintesti de unele momente din anii in care eram si eu bagat putin in lumea cainilor alergatori in ring, "campioni". In Romania, daca te referi strict la CG-ul fr show, nu stiu cum stau lucrurile si chiar sper sa existe macar o mana de oameni care sa caute acel "ceva" in randul cainilor de show si sa promoveze ceva bun. Eu am vazut acum vreo 4 ani catea de show care la doar 6 sau 7 luni de zile facea paza la curte de nu-ti venea sa crezi. Stiu und este adresa respectiva, chiar ma voi duce intr-o vizita sa vad poate oamenii inca mai au cateaua respectiva. Nu sunt "pentru" linia de show, chiar daca se gasesc exemplare bune in temperament, nu agreez sub nicio forma constructia fizica "curenta", nici nu se pune problema.
Daca in randul cainilor de lucru lucrurile sunt... cum sunt, in randul celor de show sunt cu atat mai rau.

Zici de semne de revenire.. revenire la ce?
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #229 on: February 23, 2013, 10:22:53 PM »
Revenire la ceea ce a fost cg-ul de show din anii 70-80, sa zic. Un caine care arata cat de cat normal si mai avea instinct de lupta si nu era prietenos cu toata lumea. Ai spus ca show-ul a fost compromis de la inceput dar au fost pe vremea aceea mult mai mult caini buni decat sunt astazi.
In ceea ce priveste mana aceea de oameni, inca n-am gasit-o. Si, oricum, acesti oameni ar trebui sa fie in foruri de conducere ca sa schimbe ceva cu adevarat. De jos, doar crescand caini, nu prea misti lucrurile.
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #230 on: February 23, 2013, 11:30:01 PM »
Quote from: hora on February 23, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
Si, oricum, acesti oameni ar trebui sa fie in foruri de conducere ca sa schimbe ceva cu adevarat.
Nu se schimba lucrurile in politica, unde e vorba de oameni, daramite cand e vorba de caini.
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #231 on: February 24, 2013, 12:58:49 AM »
Quote from: ben on February 23, 2013, 08:55:23 AM
Nothing against anyone training their dog of their choice, according to training methods of their choice but this is sad; seeing a GSD (even that of a show line) being worked in schutzdienst in such a way is just sad. No offense to anyone, whatsoever.
If you want to help re-build the GSD breed, please consider what you think and do.
They surely can't excpect this dog to scare off anyone in the streets..Even if the training was to be done correctly, won't make a difference to what's in the heart..
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #232 on: March 23, 2013, 05:06:25 AM »
Quote from: Man Stopper on February 24, 2013, 12:58:49 AM
Even if the training was to be done correctly, won't make a difference to what's in the heart..
Well put!
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #233 on: March 27, 2013, 01:00:05 PM »
Uitati-va la mine, ce frumos alerg la trap!  :cheesy:
Ala cu spate mai drept e de show sau nu, ca nu-mi dau seama?

Oh look at me, watch me run, see how good I am?  :jumpoff:

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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #234 on: March 27, 2013, 01:11:38 PM »
Dar cum sa exulti si sa aplauzi asa ceva?! :thumbdown: Cum sa faci asta?
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #235 on: March 27, 2013, 01:22:56 PM »
Ce sa mai zici frate.. ce sa mai zici...
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #236 on: March 27, 2013, 03:47:28 PM »
Dani don't be so harsh mate :grin:
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #237 on: March 27, 2013, 10:29:05 PM »
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #238 on: April 04, 2013, 08:32:10 AM »
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Re: CG-ul de Show - incotro?? (The Show GSD - where is the breed going?)
« Reply #239 on: April 04, 2013, 08:54:07 AM »
De remarcat in acest filmulet cat loby se face fratilor Martin,sunt considerati adevarati zei ai ciobanescului german.Dar putini stiu cat rau au facut rasei.Daca le spui asta adeptilor cainilor de show te considera ori nebun ori dusmanul lor de moarte.
Fratii Martin sunt responsabili de transformarea rasei in rau.De la ei a inceput declinul.
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