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zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2010, 04:33:27 PM »
am onoarea, unicul - Zorro Laager Wall:

the one and only - Zorro Laager Wall:


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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2010, 12:49:07 AM »
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am onoarea, unicul - Zorro Laager Wall:

the one and only - Zorro Laager Wall:



About time we can see some classic legendary DDR dog like Zorro.. Would of been extra special if we seen him in action.. There must be some other footage collecting dust, of classic DDR dogs..
Which dogs would you like to see on Video Dani ???

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2010, 12:53:23 AM »
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Iata un CG 'clasic', un caine asa cum cred eu ca trebuie sa fie adevaratul CG utilitar. Notati atat fizicul cat si temperamentul!
Here's a great example of the 'old' type of German Shepherd. Notice both the build and the temperament!

[youtube:32fyqokz]7Ji6cS_6HTo[/youtube:32fyqokz]

Just love these old type dogs, there build,coat,expression and most of all there natural aggression.. Dani you have to dig out more of these types pf footages..
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o poza f impresionanta cu Frankie:

Nice looks on Frankie..
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la primul video clip se vede clar ca , cainele se joaca...felul cum sare...parca asteapta sa-i arunce mingea cand e la cort.
la al doilea clip, seamana putin cu ce aveam eu in minte cand ziceam cu instinctul de prada...iar atacul e super mega waw
dar ceea ce vroiam eu sa spun in postul de mai devreme e, ca si cel cu instinct de prada mai puternic, poate deveni mai serios...eu asa cred...ca difera si metoda prin care au fost invatati...sau altfel spus, cel cu instinct de prada nu e mai "prost" decat celalalt...in natura sa zicem, daca o haita de lupi o ataca pe alta, cainii mai putin maturi ar putea lua lucrurile in gluma ...ceilalti mai batrani (mai ales daca s-au mai fript si inainte), in mod sigur isi vor apara teritoriul cu maxima seriozitate...nu?..acuma poate voi aveti alta experienta, si vedeti lucrurile altfel sau altfel se vad/simt cainii prin contact direct decat printr-un videoclip
ps: chiar frumos atacul din clipul 2
pps: poate o sa-mi aratati odata pe viu care e diferenta, asa din clipuri e mai greu sa fac deosebirea clar,si sa ma lamuresc ce si cum

uite, chiar cu scopul asta am facut noi clipul asta:
[youtube:32fyqokz]I8lj4tGm0lQ[/youtube:32fyqokz]

trebuie sa plec acum, voi comenta asupra clipului cand ma intorc. doar sa spun ca nicidecum nu spun ca cel cu multa 'prada' e mai prost.
This dog wants BLOOD...

THE OLD TYPE SHEPHERD IS THE ONE I PREFER, AFTER ZORRO..!!!! ALTHOUGH THE ONE I SAID WANTS BLOOD IS THE YOUNG DOG IN THE CLIP, THE LIGHTER ONE OF THE TWO, CZECH DOG I BELIEVE...

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2010, 01:42:19 AM »
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am onoarea, unicul - Zorro Laager Wall:

the one and only - Zorro Laager Wall:

[youtube:2ejxsbl3]GVdCUGIIDqk[/youtube:2ejxsbl3]
Minunat exemplar! Am urmarit si eu filmuletul chiar recent - cand cautam niste filmari cu el. Pe Youtube cel putin, doar pe acesta l-am gasit.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/15982.html

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2010, 05:29:31 AM »
zorro este prototipul cainelui DDR.-ist. cunoscut ca fiind unul dintre cei mai duri caini totusi uitati-va cat echilibru are.sa pus in garda fata de cel care filmeaza si pe fondul asta este tinut in zgarda de un copilas.
multi inteleg prin cainele dur acel caine nervos,dezechilibrat.total gresit.un exemplu il avem aici .pe zorro.

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2010, 05:48:16 AM »
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multi inteleg prin cainele dur acel caine nervos,dezechilibrat.total gresit.
Exact! Pe mine termenul de caine dur ma duce mai degraba cu gandul la un caine echilibrat, cu caracter si fizic solid, care sa faca fata unor situatii de stres puternice. Nu la un caine dezechilibrat.

zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2010, 06:30:27 AM »
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zorro este prototipul cainelui DDR.-ist. cunoscut ca fiind unul dintre cei mai duri caini totusi uitati-va cat echilibru are.sa pus in garda fata de cel care filmeaza si pe fondul asta este tinut in zgarda de un copilas.
multi inteleg prin cainele dur acel caine nervos,dezechilibrat.total gresit.un exemplu il avem aici .pe zorro.
Categoric!!
Imi place la nebunie sa observ suspiciunea cu care il 'analizeaza' pe cameraman si totodata cat de usor e 'controlat' de fetitza.
...sa nu mai zic de fizic!!!

zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2010, 06:35:16 AM »
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About time we can see some classic legendary DDR dog like Zorro.. Would of been extra special if we seen him in action.. There must be some other footage collecting dust, of classic DDR dogs..
Which dogs would you like to see on Video Dani ???

I would like to see work footage of Ingo, Zorro, Bernd Lierberg, Bronco Kiebitzmoor ...and your Onyx!  ;)  ...and I whish I was smarter when I was younger and record Ben in action - _ am more than sure you would be amazed to watch him work.

zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2010, 06:59:39 PM »
Secvente canisa cg DDR '94



Si un caine cu sange 'puternic', Condor von den Tonteichen  http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/18262.html



...si daca mai scotociti pe youtube (ca sa nu umplu eu spatiul pe-aici cu clipuri) gasiti si cateva cu Lord Gleisdreieck.

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2010, 10:27:23 PM »
Another dog good to see on video.. I very much like his expression,markings and head strength, it seems that he produces himself when it comes to looks and masculine strength, nice and strong blood through Neumans Jim...

zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2010, 06:01:13 AM »
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Another dog good to see on video.. I very much like his expression,markings and head strength, it seems that he produces himself when it comes to looks and masculine strength, nice and strong blood through Neumans Jim...

yes. strong dog in pretty much all aspects.

zimbris

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2010, 06:02:43 AM »
Imi place mult constructia cainelui asta
I love the built of this dog
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/25729.html




si asta
and this one..


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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2010, 06:17:29 AM »
Bojar e frumos! Dar mie parca mai mult imi place bunicul sau, pe linia tatalui.

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2010, 08:51:57 PM »
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Imi place mult constructia cainelui asta
I love the built of this dog
http://http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/25729.html


Dani
did you know Bojar von Schotterhof(ddr) was used in a goverment breeding with Carpathian Wolf

Historical Development of the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog

Czech Wolfdog - breed history, photos and information

In 1955 Mr. Ing. Karel Hartl made the first attempt, though unsuccessfully, to breed the wolf Brita with a chosen German Shepherd Dog (GSD) at the Libejovice breeding station. The first successful crossbreeding between the wolf and a GSD named Cesar z Brezoveho haje was in May 1958. The pups were born on 28th May 1958. Brita was once again mated with a GSD, this time Kurt z Vaclavky, and from this mating came the second line of Czech Wolfdogs.

The third line is also from Bohemia. The wolf was Argo and his offspring with the GSD Asta z SNB were born in a police kennel in Bychory. From then forward, dogs crossbred between the lines were given the abbreviation "CV" (Czech Wolfdog in Czech).

In the 1970's most of the crossbred dogs were transferred to a new breeding station nearby in Malacky (part of the frontier guard in Bratislava). The best breeding dogs were hampered by the Iron Curtain. The Slovakian breeders weren't under such a strong pressure to produce dogs for the Army. They could therefore devote the breeding to the exterior of the new breed. The greatest merit for the development of the breed in the Slovak Republic is due undoubtedly to Frantisek Rosik.

In Malacky, the third wolf to enrich the breed was the wolf, Sark. In 1974 he was mated with the third generation bitch Xela z Pohranicni straze and the bitch Urta z Pohranicni straze (from the second line). By this time the abbreviation "CV" was omitted and they got the name Czechoslovakian Wolfdog (in all other languages except English, which tend to refer to the dogs in abbreviation as Czech Wolfdogs).

The last increase of the gene pool was the crossbreeding the wolf Lady with the GSD Bojar von Schotterhof in Libejovice in the southern Bohemia. The pups were born on the 26th of April 1983. Kazan z Pohranicni straze from the mating was used directly in the breeding of the Czech Wolfdog. Since then only pure-bred Czech wolfdogs were used in the breed (closed population).

Since the beginning of the crossbreeding, civilian breeders have had the Czech Wolfdog, but they couldn't get recognition of their dogs. The problem was the Cynologic Organization in Czechoslovakia. They had refused to recognize a breeders club and enrollment of the pedigree. In 1982 they gave up and officially recognized Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs as a breed, thanks to Mr. Ing. Karel Hartl who had fought for this recognition.

In 1982 the first 43 pups were enrolled in the pedigree in Praha. During the next ten years (from 1982 to 1991), 1552 pups were enrolled.
 Read more.........

http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/44.html

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Re: Ciobanescul German de Lucru
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2010, 09:20:02 PM »
buna tuturor
 ma bucur ca a aparut acest forum si putem vorbi despre cg de lucru