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Title: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 29, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
Hun v Ostschutz (http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=732338), in varsta de aproape 4 luni. Hun este un catel foarte dezinvolt si care face galagie daca nu-i convine ceva :cool: voi posta si ceva clipuri cand ajung acasa.
Introducing Hun v Ostschutz (http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=732338), nearly 4 months of age. he is a very "chilled" pup that lets you know when he doesn't like something. I will post videos when I get home.
5 - 5............................................. in V Mentor vom Haus Iris 3 - 5............................................. in SG Condor von den Tonteichen 5 - 5............................................. in V Bessy vom Kaolinsee 4 - 4............................................. in SG Filou vom Kaolinsee
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on August 29, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
:bighug:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 29, 2011, 07:07:54 PM
Man is this your new dog, i am a bit confused on the translation.. Hun is going to be a big taller type dog, he has a very nice nature about him it seems.. You both are heating up in sunny Florida, and need a cool shade to hang about.. Who's the Sire / Dam of Hun ??
Acesta este noul tau caine, sunt putin confuz in legatura cu traducerea. Hun va fi genul de caine mare, are un caracter tare frumos, se pare.. Va incalziti amandoi sub soarele din Florida si aveti nevoie de putina racoare.. Cine sunt parintii lui Hun?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 29, 2011, 07:11:29 PM
if you click on Hun's name in the first post, the complete pedigree link should come up ;)
daca dai click pe numele lui Hun din primul post, te va duce la un link cu pedigree-ul ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 29, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Sure got some dogs that throw size, such as Tino and Condor.. Not your typical lines which are mainly going around these days, and we know John has original lines..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on August 29, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
e simpatic tare urecheatu :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on August 30, 2011, 12:38:45 AM
frumosi cainii...sper sa aveti noroc si sa luati exact ceea ce cautati...la cat de lung e drumul pana acolo... tot respectul pentru efortul pe care l-ati facut :beer:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 02:11:02 AM
Multumim, da, am luat exact ceea ce cautam. De meritat drumul a meritat oricum, pt ca l-am cunoscut pe John in persoana.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on August 30, 2011, 02:48:03 AM
Deci el e "infractorul" ! :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on August 30, 2011, 03:08:37 AM
Din ce se vede in poze cred ca e superba zona.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on August 30, 2011, 05:23:00 AM
frumos catelul sa iti traiasca si sa te bucuri de el
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 05:24:03 AM
Da, e f frumos aici si au o fauna bogata. F cald insa, am grija de asta mic non stop. Lasa ca vine sezonul rece acusica la noi.. cred ca voi numi Florida a 3a mea casa (prima e RO, a 2a e UK) :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 05:24:41 AM
Pentru transport aerian se cere un anumit tip de cusca, aprobat de IATA. Tipul acesta de custi sunt necesare pt transport aerian. (http://shopping.flu.ro/files/clients/75/176/p/94/cusca-transport-atlas-70-382177.jpg)
P.S. Eu m-am "enervat" cand am vrut sa o duc pe Tara in Germania cu avionul, cusca in care trebuia sa intre cantarea undeva la vreo 20 kg, plus cele 27-28 kg ale Tarei...ajunsesem undeva la aproape 1000 de euro numai biletul cainelui. :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 30, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
So Hun will soon be Airborne ? If he is hard then a name like Atilla the Hun would be good.. And congrats Dani i was not to sure if he was yours to take back home..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on August 30, 2011, 08:59:58 AM
Te-a costat oleaca. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 30, 2011, 09:22:54 AM
So Hun will soon be Airborne ? If he is hard then a name like Atilla the Hun would be good.. And congrats Dani i was not to sure if he was yours to take back home..
Reg. Dani is bringing home an Olympic gold medal as far as old East German DDr genetics. Just look at a 5-6-7 generation pedigree separately of Hun's Sire and Dam.To Many Great dogs to name. To begin or to preserve the old DDr blood you can not find this any where in the world today. Great start of breeding program.Any time Dani comes back i will be very happy to help him secure any rare old DDr blood he needs. Dani has seen with his own eyes that i do have and did save the old East German Shepherd.The problem is pictures just do not show what these dogs truly look like. And one or two short days is not enough time to see what the dogs is truly made of. --
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 09:47:33 AM
Dani has seen with his own eyes that i do have and did save the old East German Shepherd.The problem is pictures just do not show what these dogs truly look like. And one or two short days is not enough time to see what the dogs is truly made of.
True, I wish I had more days to spend with you John, maybe on my next trip.. Well I got the videos and maybe through them the guys in the forum can get a taste of the DDR dog.
I am very glad with Hun, he already displays guarding behavior, I tried to get that on video but by the time i got back in the yard the "game" was finished. He low pitch barks at people passing by (he hears their voices) a few minutes ago he even barked at the sky right after it thundered. If I am honest i see a little bit of Ben in this black pup and gives me some chills down the spine.. John you kept a low profile on Eddie and that is one fine dog.
Sper sa pot petrece mai mult timp cu John in viitor, am multe de invatat de la el, poate data viitoare.. Pana una alta sunt f multumit de Hun, deja are un tipar comportamental care imi aminteste de Ben si asta imi face pielea "de gaina".. Latra gros cand aude voci in zona iar acu cateva minute a latrat (tot gros) inspre cer dupa ce a tunat, coditza sus si o postura care reflecta incredere.
John nu a zis prea multe despre cainele Eddie, care mie mi s-a parut un exemplar nemaipomenit!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 30, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Dani Dog people are hard to convince with words.Even your photo does not show the dog his head and muzzle is very big huge bone when you seen him in real life he exudes raw power
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 10:01:55 AM
oh yes, you can say that again.. Karlton was speechless and he wants to visit you from time to time, his views on dogs (GS dogs) changed after visiting you. Oh well, since we can't bring the dogs themselves in the forum, pictures and videos will do ;)
da, mie-mi spui... Karlton (prietenul la care stau) a ramas fara cuvinte si si-a schimbat parerea despre cainii CG dupa ce te-a vizitat. Pai, nu putem aduce cainii in forum asa ca poze si clipuri vor fi de ajuns ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 10:03:12 AM
Even your photo does not show the dog his head and muzzle is very big huge bone when you seen him in real life he exudes raw power
just to get this right, are you referring to Eddie?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 10:55:09 AM
un clip scurt filmat cu camera foto (de ce oare au zgomotul ala in fundal...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7KAw3_9Kos
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on August 30, 2011, 10:57:40 AM
Ce urechi mari are. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on August 30, 2011, 11:01:00 AM
Da, e urechios nevoie mare. Asa se explica de ce la 4 luni nu le are ridicate inca. Da' las' ca le ridica el, si-atunci sa vezi un cap ca din poveste! :bighug: :pretty2:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 11:03:15 AM
Iar asta e dupa o sedinta de joaca cu Shiba, el oboseste repede ca ea e mare si grea, ea mai vroia joaca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM6nDirNGVU
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on August 30, 2011, 11:03:57 AM
E privat video-ul. :spank: :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 11:12:19 AM
urechile - o sa vedeti in clipuri video, el e singurul din cuib care inca nu le-a ridicat :grin: dar nu-mi fac probleme, genetica e "la punct" ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 30, 2011, 11:29:18 AM
Hello Thara, Did you ask about the ears? On large pups All or most of the calcium goes to the skeletal growth and the thick leg bones.The Hun is Heavy Dani may be able to tell you about how much. So special attention must be give extra calcium cartilage large heave bones to chew at all times. Hun ears have been up and down while here
Buna Thara, Intrebai de urechi? La cateii mai mari, tot sau majoritatea calciului se duce in cresterea scheletului si in oasele groase ale picioarelor. Hun e greu Dani iti poate spune mai multe. Deci atentie marita e ceruta in privinta administrarii calciului, catelul sa aiba oase mari sa roada mai tot timpul. Urechile lui Hun ba au fost erecte, ba jos, cat a stat aici.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 11:36:42 AM
oh he'll get plenty beef bones, the dry bone marrow type too. Briska and Hun will have fun during the day "wrestling" with them bones.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 30, 2011, 11:47:04 AM
Dani you you post a photo of Fran& Falko so the group can see the size of Hun's family
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on August 30, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
Hello Thara, Did you ask about the ears? On large pups All or most of the calcium goes to the skeletal growth and the thick leg bones.The Hun is Heavy Dani may be able to tell you about how much. So special attention must be give extra calcium cartilage large heave bones to chew at all times. Hun ears have been up and down while here
Buna Thara, Intrebai de urechi? La cateii mai mari, tot sau majoritatea calciului se duce in cresterea scheletului si in oasele groase ale picioarelor. Hun e greu Dani iti poate spune mai multe. Deci atentie marita e ceruta in privinta administrarii calciului, catelul sa aiba oase mari sa roada mai tot timpul. Urechile lui Hun ba au fost erecte, ba jos, cat a stat aici.
Hello John. I was saying that his ears are not up yet because they are pretty large, but still has plenty of time, and when he's gonna rise them, he will have an awesome head.
Buna John. Spuneam ca nu a ridicat inca urechile deoarece acestea sunt destul de mari, dar are inca destul timp, iar cand le va ridica va avea un cap fantastic.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 30, 2011, 11:54:15 AM
Oh yes that sure makes the dog look great.The ears can be a problem in the gsd breed.But you are right i told Dani i think this male will have a very nice head. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on August 30, 2011, 12:00:47 PM
Iar asta e dupa o sedinta de joaca cu Shiba, el oboseste repede ca ea e mare si grea, ea mai vroia joaca
In clipul de mai sus, Shiba imi aminteste de Tara ca stil de joaca, si ea are obiceiul asta de a se juca cu alti caini, adica de a calca pe alti caini. :lol: In the clip above, Shiba reminds me of Tara, she also have this way of playing with other dogs, I mean stepping on other dogs. :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 30, 2011, 12:26:36 PM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 31, 2011, 08:09:08 AM
John I can see how Dani would be really thrilled to have such a unique bloodline of DDR dogs.. To start with Indigo the sire of Hun is 5-5,4 on Held Ritterberg and the Grandsire Iran vom Tannenkrug is 5-4 on Cliff v Bliechfleck another fav of Dani's i believe.. Last but not least there is Zorro there on both Sire and Dam, i nice match for Briska... :rockon: As for the Dam side of Hun, i am not familiar with her line, besides several dogs such Neumans Jim and Tino.. Be good to see most of the litter in future doing some great things for the DDR line..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on August 31, 2011, 09:05:18 AM
This is a rare one of a kind DDR bloodline found today and bred correctly. A great bloodline to start a breeding program.This is Hun's mother she is a driven civil bitch.
Be good to see most of the litter in future doing some great things for the DDR line..
Well one of the pups in the litter will certainly be present here in this forum and you will see what comes of him. Having said that, I would really love to see some of the other pups, there are 2 black n tans there that will very likely become awesome working dogs, you will see some footage when I get home and draw conclusions for yourself. But believe me, seeing this litter of pups was like traveling in the past.
Cu siguranta cel putin unul din ce 6 catei din cuib il vei mai vedea aici in forum. Mi-ar face placere sa vad si ceilalti catei in viitor, sunt acolo in cuib 2 catei black n tan cu potential urias, o sa vezi clipurile video si ai sa tragi niste concluzii pt tine. Dar ca sa fac un rezumat, sa vad cuibul asta de catei a fost ca o calatorie inapoi in trecut.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on August 31, 2011, 02:20:57 PM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 01, 2011, 06:39:04 AM
Am tot vrut sa te intreb, gazonul din pozele astea este cumva sintetic? Arata tare bine anyway.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on September 01, 2011, 07:06:07 AM
It is real you should see some of the landscapes in south Florida I am sure when Dani get home he will have stories to tell.He is on his way to the airport
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 01, 2011, 07:18:37 AM
It is real you should see some of the landscapes in south Florida I am sure when Dani get home he will have stories to tell.He is on his way to the airport
yep, living in a few minutes and I hope i'll get to see more of Florida next time I come over!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 01, 2011, 08:32:12 AM
da, e sintetic si-mi place la nebunie, m-a pus pe ganduri, e foarte practic, nici n-am stiut!
Din asta vreau si eu sa iau! M-am tot gandit, nu are rost sa tot pun gazon natural, fiindca se strica foarte repede, e de ajuns un singur caine care sa-l calce bine si se duce...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on September 01, 2011, 05:23:46 PM
Are figura de caine destept! :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on September 02, 2011, 07:10:45 AM
Abia astept sa-l vad cum evolueaza :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 02, 2011, 07:22:10 AM
treaba e ca va mai trebui sa stau cateva zile in Florida si azi s-a jucat din nou cu Shiba.. incepe sa-si arate "culoarea", azi daca nu eram in curte de fatza mi-l facea praf Shiba, care e foarte puternica, o "simt" cand ma calca pe picior sau cand ma apuca de mana "in gluma". Hun azi a incercat sa o domine si de cateva ori el a initial "conflictul", l-am apucat de burta si in febra momentului m-a muscat pe mine de picior, era "aprins" tare. O sa-i monitorizez, bine-nteles, comportamentul dar pana una alta imi place la nebunie..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 03, 2011, 11:14:09 AM
ce mai face Hun?....cam pe cand ajungeti in romania?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 03, 2011, 12:03:06 PM
O sa mai dureze ceva timp dar vom ajunge acasa. Hun face foarte bine, deja vad in el urmatorul meu "Ben", este tipul vechi de caine, are ceva mai putin drive dar chef de scandal si e deja protectiv fatza de mine. Azi am fost la vet pt vaccin si microcip, n-a avut nici un stres gagiu'. Maine mergem impreuna sa-l vedem din nou pe uriasul Enno si sa tragem o portie de joaca cu fratii de cuib.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 03, 2011, 12:45:52 PM
azi Hun face 4 luni, l-am cantarit la pranz la vet, pe stomacul gol (azi n-a mancat nimic, pana sa mergem la vet) are 37 pounds (16,7 kg) iar greabanul in drept cu genunchiul meu.
Hun is 4 months old, we went to the vet, on an empty stomach he weighs 37 lbs and his wither is in line with my knee.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 03, 2011, 12:50:11 PM
Va fi un tanc de caine!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 03, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
pai azi pe unde am fost toti ziceau ca e mare. Adevarul ca si mie mi-au parut mari, toti cateii din cuib. Am fost si pe la niste pet shop-uri si mi s-a zis ca la 4 luni e mare. Americanii stiu ca daca e CG e musai sa fie black n tan, asa ca am dat de cateva persoane care m-au intrebat ce rasa e, sau cand le-am zis ca e CG, m-au intrebat daca e "mixat" cu alta rasa. le-am zis ca nu bateam atata drum, daca era amestecat cu altceva :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 03, 2011, 01:41:42 PM
hmm.. daca stau si ma gandesc bine si briska era deja mare la 5 luni dar nu s-a facut atat de mare cat sa spui ca e o catea de talie mare, in schimb e bine legata.. anyway, nu vreau sa ma hazardez sa spun ca Hun va fi tanc, lasam sa treaca timpul sa vedem ce si cum.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on September 04, 2011, 01:07:14 AM
Deobicei ,timpul ne raspunde la toate intrebarile ,cum va fi ,cat de bun ....oricum sanatos sa fie :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 04, 2011, 03:38:45 AM
eu cred ca va fi mai gros decat greif al meu
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 04, 2011, 04:48:41 AM
da, asta ii spuneam si eu lui John ieri ca vreau, sa il vad ajuns la Constanta sanatos. Aici nu sunt amenintarile la adresa cateilor, care sunt la noi dar sunt altele. De ex, aici cateii trebuie vaccinati impotriva "heart worm"-ului, ce se intampla este, catelul e piscat de tantar a carui larva se va dezvolta in inima catelului la catva timp iar el inevitabil moare. Vaccinul respectiv se face lunar, daca am inteles bine.
da, gros e deja si am si vazut-o pe sora-sa Fran (o sa o vezi pe video) care la un an si putin e tancheta, groasa si, inca mai are de pus pe ea ca e tanara. Eu ma refeream la inaltime (greaban) cand spuneam ca nu e musai sa se faca f mare, dr poate ma insel, am vazut caine din Indigo care cu adevarat e tanc. Dar cum spuneam, ma intereseaza sanatos sa fie.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 04, 2011, 05:14:56 AM
da, asta ii spuneam si eu lui John ieri ca vreau, sa il vad ajuns la Constanta sanatos. Aici nu sunt amenintarile la adresa cateilor, care sunt la noi dar sunt altele. De ex, aici cateii trebuie vaccinati impotriva "heart worm"-ului,
Si la noi au aparut inca din anii trecuti cazuri de Dirofilarioza. Din cate am inteles, se recomanda si la noi vaccinarea cainelui impotriva Dirofilaria immitis, zis si popular heart worms.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 04, 2011, 05:22:47 AM
iete ca habar n-am avut....
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 05, 2011, 01:53:15 PM
Hun "calare" pe mama-sa, Venus Hun "riding" his mum, Venus
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 06, 2011, 05:10:14 AM
ce tare e caterinca asta mic... in drum spre P Charlotte, unde sta John, a stat cuminte in spate in masina iar pe la jumatatea drumului s-a ridicat in "sezi", a latrat o data si s-a uitat la noi ca si cum ar spune "ba, voi vreti sa fac ceva in masina voastra?" :grin: ne-am oprit (pe autostrada!) si l-am scos pe spatiul verde de pe margine si a 'downloadat" gagiu' si felul 1 si felul 2 :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 06, 2011, 05:45:47 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on September 06, 2011, 10:52:26 PM
bravo ...Hun ...catel destept :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 09, 2011, 03:18:16 PM
bun, hai sa descarc ce am cu caterinca asta mic. Voi posta si un clip in curand.
Cum s-a acomomdat cu noul camin? Cred ca o sa-i placa mai mult clima de la noi.
Hun va ajunge acasa aici peste catva timp, trebuie sa treaca un anume numar de zile pana cand SUA sa aprobe iesirea lui din tzara. sa vezi ca party trag cand il aduc aici :rockon: :manga: ma duc dupa el la sfarsitul lui Septembrie.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on September 09, 2011, 03:28:36 PM
:) :ok:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 09, 2011, 03:29:52 PM
:grin: vai, ce-mi place moaca lui.................................
mama ce frumos ii! ce figura are parca-i din desene animate :grin:
daca te uiti atent, nu are moaca aia tipica unui catel de cg de lucru - ceea ce imi place si mai mult, imi aminteste mai bine de cainii din anii '80 redjump
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on September 09, 2011, 05:25:52 PM
nu-mi amintesc ce moaca aveau cei din anii 80 :grin: dar am sa incerc sa aflu si sa fac diferenta :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 09, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
nu-mi amintesc ce moaca aveau cei din anii 80 :grin: dar am sa incerc sa aflu si sa fac diferenta :)
:grin: stai sa vad daca pot da o "iesplicatie".. catelusii astia mai "moderni" au cam acelasi look, cu falcutzele alea si capul ceva mai rotund, cel putin cei din liniile Cehesti (in marea lor majoritate). caterinca asta mic, cu moaca lui, imi aminteste de Ben si de Mura, o catea neagra pe care am postat-o pe-aici pe undeva, in forum..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on September 09, 2011, 05:37:10 PM
chiar am sa ma uit mai atent la detaliile astea, a fost o zi plina, mai mult spre seara si le prind mai greu acum.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on September 09, 2011, 05:38:28 PM
Trying to understand the last post, i think your trying to say that Hun does not have your typical style of head (look). Good to see he has some character about him.. Dani is he in Romania at the end of the month ?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 09, 2011, 05:42:19 PM
Trying to understand the last post, i think your trying to say that Hun does not have your typical style of head (look). Good to see he has some character about him.. Dani is he in Romania at the end of the month ?
hey man, first of all, as a forum admin, I truly appreciate the effort you put in getting to understand what the guys are talking about around here! Cheers for your patience! Now, back to Hun - I am just saying, his head reminds me of the dogs of the 80's and I guess one could understand that it would mean most of the dogs back then had DDR blood or at least influence.. which is rather cool, while I think of it... Even his temperament reminds me of Ben, VERY MUCH! he is not your typical working GSD pup, but seems to display tons of personality, the ways he looks at people and / or things, he seems to be "studying" them... I am sure he will be a fine dog, with loads of personality! Hun will have to spend a little longer in the States until he is "allowed" to travel out of the US.
In primul rand, ca si admin al forumului, apreciez eforturile tale de a intelege ce se spune pe aici prin forum! cat despre Hun, spun doar ca forma capului si expresia de pe moaca lui imi amintesc de cainii anilor '80 - lucru prin care se poate interpreta ca pe atunci cainii fie veneau din caini RDG fie aveau si astfel de sange.. ceea ce e super, daca stau si ma gandesc putin. Comportamentul lui imi aminteste mult de Ben! Nu-mi pare a fi catelul de lucru tipic (spun asta gandindu-ma la cateii vazuti in ultimii 4 ani) si pana in prezent "afiseaza" personalitate cu tona, prin felul in care se uita la oameni sau obiecte, etc ... Sunt sigur ca va fi un caine bun cu personalitate puternica (eu apreciez asta mult la un caine) Hun va trebui sa mai stea putin in State pana i se "permite" sa calatoreasca.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on September 09, 2011, 06:08:10 PM
Once the autumn leaves are falling around you and Hun will have a super time out there in his new homeland.. Its good to know that you can read the young dogs character, and if it reminds you of Ben.. Well this must bring back some of your youthfull spirit...
odata cu caderea frunzelor de toamna tu si Hun veti avea un timp super.. E bine ca ii poti "citi" caracterul de la varsta asta, iar daca iti aduce aminte de Ben.. asta ar trebui sa-ti revigoreze spiritul...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 09, 2011, 06:11:17 PM
Once the autumn leaves are falling around you and Hun will have a super time out there in his new homeland..
if you only knew how impatient I'm growing, waiting to have him here with me.. and yes, I will take both him and Briska out for walks on the beach, now that the summer is over and the beaches 'freed" from tourists, hehe..
daca ai stii cat astept sa il pot aduce aici.. si da, il voi scoate impreuna cu Briska la plimbari pe plaja, acum ca s-a dus vara si nu mai bubuie plaja de turisti
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on September 20, 2011, 02:13:33 AM
Hun looks really impressive with his straight set ears, head and muzzle are blending in niceley.. Very much like Sire side, very nice expression..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 20, 2011, 02:23:11 AM
I can hardly wait to have him over here with me, the weather in this part of Europe goes cooler about this time of the year and I am sure Hun will like it.
Abia astept sa-l aduc aici, cam acum incepe sa se racoreasca pe aici si sunt convins ca o sa-i placa.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 20, 2011, 03:04:27 AM
cam ce temperaturi sunt in florida?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 20, 2011, 03:17:35 AM
sa fie cam 35.. 36 poate chiar 38 C, dar e umiditatea f puternica. Acum in toamna/iarna coboara pe la un 26 - 27, daca am retinut bine. Cand am plecat eu se incheia sezonul ploios.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 20, 2011, 03:24:26 AM
ma intrebam cum ar reactiona daca la noi deja da inghetul cand ajunge el...dar nu cred ca or sa fie probleme
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 20, 2011, 03:43:27 AM
de venit va veni in curand si va prinde o "tranzitie"; oricum era riscant sa calatoreasca cu avionul in perioada asta a anului, unele companii aeriene nici nu ingaduiau transportul animalelor vii acum cand am fost eu, decat dupa .. nu mai stiu cat, Septembrie.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on September 20, 2011, 03:46:41 AM
daca acolo sunt aproximativ 25 si aici prinde un 20 sau 17 grade, nu e chiar asa mare diferenta, se poate adapta relativ usor cred
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 20, 2011, 03:49:19 AM
ar trebui sa ajunga aici in aprox 2 sapt, eu zic ca va fi inca destul de cald.. ieri era lume pe plaja, apa e inca super, ceva mai rece dar numa' buna de baie.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on September 20, 2011, 05:39:54 AM
Hun e stranepot de Condor v Tonteichen :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rFRGwVee_Y
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on September 20, 2011, 06:06:35 AM
Tare cainele!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 05, 2011, 06:36:05 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 05, 2011, 08:04:42 AM
Frumos, dar tot mai are ceva de lucrat la urechi. :) Pan' la urma cand soseste la noul domiciliu?
Nice, but he's still working on those ears :) Exactly when will he be here?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 05, 2011, 08:14:42 AM
Si Briska, atunci cand am adus-o inca mai avea urechile mai "soft", iar pt Hun nu-mi fac nici o problema, e inca "ciutan". De adus sper sa-l aduc undeva in a 3a saptamana a lui Octombrie, am de facut un drum in Germania in curand si urmatoarea "miscare" e aducerea lui Hun. Deja mi-e un dor nebun de el...
Briska also had them still soft when I brought her over, I'm not concerned for Hun's, he is still young. I hope to have him over by the 3rd week of October, I need to make a trip to Germany and after that. Hun is the next "move". I already miss him loads...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 05, 2011, 02:05:24 PM
Stiu, si arata bine pentru 5 luni cate are acum, nu? Pe la ce varsta isi stabilizeaza de regula un CG antenele?
I know, and he looks good for a 5 months old pup, that's his age right? At about what age do the ears stay erect?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 05, 2011, 02:10:36 PM
Pe la ce varsta isi stabilizeaza de regula un CG antenele?
pai depinde de cativa factori, in principal genetica si dieta. Functie de astea, urechile se pot ridica f devreme sau tarziu. la cei "setati genetic" sa se faca exemplare mai mari, urechile se ridica ceva mai "lent", cel putin din ce stiu eu. Iar legat de dieta, este perioada aia in care creste rapid in inaltime, schimba dintii.. iar astea papa calciu la greu, probabil de-aici si obiceiul de a "indopa" catelul cu calciu - dar aici as avea ceva de comentat, pt ca nu-s de-acord cu pompatul calciului in catel, daca are o dieta sanatoasa, din capul locului.
PS - voi traduce ce ai spus si ce am spus, pt ca mai citeste John topicul lui Hun si sa-l ajut sa inteleaga.
well I guess it depends on a few factors, mainly genes and diet. based on those, the ears could either stand very soon or later in time. In the case of the pups that will grow bigger than the average GS dog, the ears will stand erect late, from what I know. And as far as diet, well there's that time length where changing teeth and fast height and length growth that requires calcium and I guess that's when help is needed - still, I personally have a problem with those who stuff the pup with calcium during that time, but that's a different story.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 05, 2011, 02:24:52 PM
In the case of the pups that will grow bigger than the average GS dog, the ears will stand erect late, from what I know.
Pe asta n-o stiam. I learned another new thing now.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 05, 2011, 02:28:54 PM
s-ar explica prin faptul ca niste oase mai groase si acre se dezvolta mai rapid, au nevoie de un aport mai "sanatos" de calciu
that could self explain through big, long bones who simply need more calcium in order to develop
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 05, 2011, 04:02:32 PM
Hun has a well conditioned body and plenty of confidence/character by his expression.. I could imagine the way you must feel having him home.. His ears and head looks to be from the Sire side, no probs in being firm and erect. As for the extra calcium in diet, we would do more harm than good.. Few beef and chicken bones during the week, along with a daily feed of dry food would be plenty of calcium..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 05, 2011, 10:28:25 PM
Oh yes, when I took him from John, to Tampa, being away from home for first time, new surroundings, new faces etc, he had no problem whatsoever. Also meeting Sheba, the Cane Corso who "slammed" him a few times when playing, I got scared but he didn't. Still, i didn't let them play together as she is big and heavy, it hurt me when she bumped into my thigh so I imagined she could easily harm a 4 month old pup, even though just playing. Home... he is not here with me yet, but not too long from now!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on October 06, 2011, 03:16:53 AM
Tare frumos poate fi catelul asta! Abia astept sa ajunga pe pamant romanesc!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 06, 2011, 03:29:40 AM
crede-ma ca numar zilele...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: RogerW on October 06, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
He is looking so good, Dani!!!
I apologize for not being on the forum more often, Dani, these pups occupy so much time, always something to work on outside....
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 06, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
I apologize for not being on the forum more often, Dani, these pups occupy so much time, always something to work on outside....
don't apologize Roger, looking after the pups comes first, if anything! Thank you for your comment, he looks good indeed, doesn't he... I miss him so much...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 26, 2011, 11:17:59 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on October 26, 2011, 11:19:39 AM
Ce expresiv este! Imi plac mult primele doua poze. Are un "acoperis" fain de tot. Si Tara tot asa si-a tinut urechile cand era mica si se uita lumea la noi pe strada, unii au crezut ca are probleme. :cheesy:
He looks very expressive! I love the first two shots. he's got a very fine "covering". Tara held her ears the same way when she was young and people were staring at us out on the streets, some thought she had ear problems :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on October 26, 2011, 11:22:19 AM
Da, are o moaca tare expresiva :) ma tot repet, dar si aspectul asta imi aminteste de Ben si ma face sa iubesc cainele asta cu atat mai mult.. Astept unda verde sa pot merge sa-l iau, asta poate fi peste 3 zile, o sapt,... astept dar imi pierd rabdarea, mi-e dor tare de el :cheesy:
yes he looks expressive indeed :) i keep saying this but that also reminds me of Ben, makes me love this pup yet more.. I am waiting for the green light to go fetch him but I am loosing my patience, I miss him so much...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on October 26, 2011, 11:31:51 AM
nu, actele au veit la vreo 10 zile dupa revenirea mea in tzara. E vb de altceva, trebuie sa ma sincronizez cu prietenul meu, proprietarul Shebei, pe care l-ati vazut in poze.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 02, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
Ce mare il aduci in tara! ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 02, 2011, 11:47:45 AM
da, doar ca s-ar putea sa trebuiasca sa-i iau alta cusca pt transport.. ma cam oftic, ca am luat deja una cand am fost in Septembrie dar cred ca acum e putin mica sau intr-un caz mai bun, fix pe dimensiunile lui - in care caz trebuie musai sa-i iau alta, mai mare; o sa aiba de stat in ea un total de 13, aproape 14 ore :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 02, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
At 26 weeks or so thats a perfect weight, especially when its going through a growth phase.. Dani would you say that 25 inches to the shoulder and around 42 kg Hun would be at maturity ? The Sire looks like a medium to tall height and solid athletic build..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 11, 2011, 08:48:09 AM
doua poze cu moaca lui Hun, il voi ruga pe Karlton sa-mi faca o poza sau 2 cu el si cu mine, sa ii puteti estima dimensiunile. Ia uitati capatzana la 6 luni :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 11, 2011, 09:22:44 AM
S-a facut mare!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 11, 2011, 09:24:42 AM
da, e mare si destul de greu, cand se izbeste in mine se trezesc toate organele interne (ale mele, nu ale lui) :grin: are un torace "sanatos", o sa il vezi mai bine in alte poze. Se tot spune ca astia DDR nu au drive dar sa vezi cum e Hun si pe minge si pe saculetz, nu am luat camera video cu mine de data asta dar o sa il tot postez in timp.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 11, 2011, 09:30:28 AM
Eu sincer nu prea sunt un fan al cainilor cu drive mult, imi plac cainii mai domoli asa ,dar sa stie ce are de facut.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 11, 2011, 09:34:41 AM
Eu sincer nu prea sunt un fan al cainilor cu drive mult, imi plac cainii mai domoli asa ,dar sa stie ce are de facut.
mie-mi place un caine care sa aiba cat de cat drive, sa poti lucra cu el dar intr-adevar, nici prea mult, ca ma innebuneste. Dar ce am vrut sa subliniez in cazul lui Hun este ca ARE ;) De fapt nu ma mira prea tare, pt ca maica-sa, Venus vd Old Lady, e o "disperata" si aia. Privire si miscari gen Axa, care in lumea mea se traduce "drive". Doar ca Axa e mai guraliva si incordata, zici ca e bagata in priza. Venus e f aportoare dar mai tacuta, probabil tipicalitate DDR.
well i like a dog to have somewhat drive so it can be trained easily too but then again, not too much of it as it would drive me nuts. But what I wanted to underline is that Hun HAS it and I am not too surprised, his dam Venus is "craz"y herself, kind of like Axa but not as loud and that's probably because of the DDR type (more of a quiet dog).
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 11, 2011, 09:38:45 AM
Poate suna stupida intrebarea, ai in plan sa faci si ceva lucru cu el la un moment dat?
nu, de ce l-as lucra... pt mine e suficient ca e DDR.. :grin: glumesc! normal ca Hun va "percuta"!!! De fapt, vazandu-l cum e nebun dupa minge si ce bine tine funia / saculetul, abia astept sa-l vad la lucru! La fel cum o vei vedea si pe Briska, "percutand".
inca 2 poze
why would I work him.. to me it is enough that he's a DDR dog.. I'm kidding, of course we will work him!! In fact, noticing his ball drive and the strong hold of the rope, I am looking forward to seeing him at work later on! Just as you will see Briska at work, too.
eu credeam ca cei DDR nu mai trebe dresati :lol: glumesc, abia astept sa-l vad in actiune si spor la treaba cu el!
multumim! da, ai sa-l vezi, asa cum ai observat, dux ii munceste iar eu ii "prind" pe video sau foto. In plus, am tot insistat de-alungul timpului ca detinatorul de cg sa posteze clipuri sa se vada ce poate cainele. asta dupa ce au tot fost dicutii aprinse pe celalalt forum, legate de un caine sau altul; cand nu ai probe video, toti sunt zmei. E adevarat ca si pe video poti prinde un caine care nu-i asa bun dar care se decurca bine cat de cat, dar un ochi care stie sa vada ce trebuie vazut, vede.
thank you! yes you will se work footage of Hun, as you may have noticed, dux works the dogs and I get that on video or images. Furthermore, with time I insisted that GSD owners would post videos of their dogs, especially after going through debates in a different forum, where things were judged merely by the one's statements or another, many dogs are "great" when you just talk about them but not back it up with (at least) some footage. true, even less good dogs can perform well in front of a camcorder but whoever has eyes to see what needs to be seen, they'll see.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 11, 2011, 03:50:06 PM
inca mai "coboara" urechea dreapta, o ridica cand ne jucam sau cand il strig, dupa care o lasa jos iar cred ca o sa mai dureze vreo 2 saptamani sau 3, pana sa o tina teapana, e mare, greoi, are unde sa se duca calciul.. De crescut a crescut dar are inca o moaca de-aia tip "Disney" :grin: asa, mai caraghioasa..
he still drops his right ear, lifts it up when we play or when I call him by name. I think it will take another 2 or 3 weeks before he holds it up well, he is big, growing so plenty room for that calcium to flow through. Well he's been growing alright but still has that funny looking face, Disney-like
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 11, 2011, 09:38:00 PM
Pai sa te bucuri de el acum cat mai are urechea aia "aiurea" ca e simpatic :grin:, Eu parca as mai vrea so vad pe Ella putin cu urechile blegi in toate directiile :lol: Asta ma incanta si pe mine sa vad, filmulete cu lucru mult.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 12, 2011, 01:23:28 AM
. In plus, am tot insistat de-alungul timpului ca detinatorul de cg sa posteze clipuri sa se vada ce poate cainele. asta dupa ce au tot fost dicutii aprinse pe celalalt forum, legate de un caine sau altul; cand nu ai probe video, toti sunt zmei.
Asa si trebuie sa faca in opinia mea un crescator care se respecta, multi acum vand caini pe vorbe , dupa ce cresc mari puii abia atunci constientizeaza proprietarul ca a luat teapa , dar din pacate nu prea mai poti face nimic.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: mariuspaun on November 12, 2011, 04:42:04 AM
Foarte frumos Hun si maaare. Ma uit la el in comparatie cu Cassy a mea si desi la varsta e mai mic cu doua saptamani decat ea, la marime e mult peste. Poate cine stie, ne "cunoastem" un pic mai bine peste vre'o 2 ani :dogmate:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on November 12, 2011, 04:46:26 AM
Si cand ,il aduci acasa?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 12, 2011, 05:43:04 AM
Foarte frumos Hun si maaare. Ma uit la el in comparatie cu Cassy a mea si desi la varsta e mai mic cu doua saptamani decat ea, la marime e mult peste. Poate cine stie, ne "cunoastem" un pic mai bine peste vre'o 2 ani :dogmate:
pai Cassy e fetitza, pt inceput, iar Hun intr-adevar e "setat" genetic sa ia ceva in dimensiuni :) Sigur, poate ne intalnim pe la un eveniment, un expo ceva.
sper sa fim acasa Marti, cel tarziu. In alta ordine de idei, m-am jucat azi dimineata devreme cu el din nou, imi place la nebunie, sa vedeti ce zgomote face in joaca cu funia (tug) si ce drive are la mingiutza.. imi pare rau ca nu am camera video cu mne, va aratam si ce priza face gagiul, l-am saltat de la sol pe muscatura (nu l-am tinut decat vreo 2 secunde ca e greu) si nu a dat drumul. Voi face niste filmari saptamana viitoare.
I played with Hun again early in the morning, I just love this pup, you should hear the noises he makes when we play tug, or the determination in his movements when I move the ball around.. I didn't take the camcorder with me this time, i would have caught on film the 2 seconds I lifted him off the ground as he bit the tug rope (didn't keep him up for too long as he is heavy) but I will make some videos when we are home.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on November 12, 2011, 05:53:27 AM
Pai ,atunci ce sa mai zic .Drum bun ,si fara peripetii ..Si asteptam filmari si poze ,cu el ,dupa ce ajungeti acasa :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 12, 2011, 05:54:48 AM
multumim si sigur, asa cum fac de obicei, mitraliez cu poze si clipuri :)
Abia astept sa vina "ursuletul" acasa. La vara nu-l ratez sub nici o forma, daca sunt sanatos si ajung la mare... :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 12, 2011, 06:52:32 AM
lasa ca pana la vara o sa bombardez eu cu clipuri, desi alta treaba e sa-l vezi / auzi pe viu. Apropos, la mine e vara chiar acum :lol: :cool: Ii voi urmari evolutia cu mare interes, pt ca multi mi-au spus ca astia DDR se "coc" mai greu / lent. Briska intr-adevar face progrese cu viteza melcului dar e ok. Hun insa ma innebuneste de pe-acuma :grin: are drive o gramada, desi cica astia DDR duc lipsa. Dar ce-mi place cel mai mult e muscatura lui, "cleste" sau "ciocan", cum spune dux.
no worries, i will bombard with videos, although it's a different thing to see him in real life. By the way, it's summer over here :lol: I will monitor his progress, I was told the DDR dog matures slower. i can see that in Briska, she "ripes" at a very low pace, but Hun already sows more than I expected from a DDR pup (keeping count what other said to me) he has loads of drive although they are said to lack it. But what i enjoy most is his bite, which is "hammer" like, as dux would put it.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 12, 2011, 06:55:12 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 12, 2011, 08:12:26 AM
:love:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 12, 2011, 01:59:45 PM
o sa fac un clipuletz cu dedicatie pt Dux, probabil maine. Pt acum, putina distractie, de ziua veteranilor :rockon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWxrs-ETeIY
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 12, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
Hey Dani that some grip that Hun has there, really determined alright, keep the grip getting tighter and tighter.. Also noticed that he has extra coat hair around his neck. in comparison to the rest of his body, this will give him a Lion's look at maturity.. Safe trip for you both back home..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 03:48:16 AM
Thanks Manstopper, it's gonna be a looong trip home. Yes he has a very nice grip and it only took one or two tug play sessions (back in August) to get him to get the idea and tighten it, another 6 months from now and he will likely be worked on the sleeve. His ball drive is very good so Hun will be easy to train.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 07:27:05 AM
Aron, strabunicul lui Hun. Nu m-ar deranja daca asa va arata si Hun la maturitate desi cred ca Hun va avea un cap ceva mai diferit si un torace ceva mai coborat.
Aron, Hun's great grand-sire; I wouldn't mind if Hun will look like that when he's all grown up, although I think his head will look somewhat different and will have a deeper chest.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 07:38:44 AM
asta e un fiu de Aron, ehh.. cam asa anticipez ca va arata Hun (putin mai stufos) desi zic eu, va avea un torace mai coborat de-atat si.. poate cu urechile ceva mai mari :grin:
Thanks Manstopper, it's gonna be a looong trip home. Yes he has a very nice grip and it only took one or two tug play sessions (back in August) to get him to get the idea and tighten it, another 6 months from now and he will likely be worked on the sleeve. His ball drive is very good so Hun will be easy to train.
I would of thought it might be early for sleeve work Dani, unless you had intention's of more sport type training, good to hear that he has extra ball drive for easier learning.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 08:03:48 PM
I would of thought it might be early for sleeve work Dani, unless you had intention's of more sport type training, good to hear that he has extra ball drive for easier learning.
nooooo... don't get me wrong, he'll start agitation / sleeve work when he is "ripe" enough!! No way I want to turn this pup into a sporty dog, or else I wouldn't be able to walk my own talk, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 13, 2011, 09:54:37 PM
When i read that in 6 months he will be worked on the sleeve, this sort of puzzled me a bit. As we have had discussed on this Forum and other, that around 14 or 18 months would be a good time to start some form of training, other than sport.. Hun's great grand sire looks great, and i can picture Hun with a deeper chest and more substance.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
When i read that in 6 months he will be worked on the sleeve, this sort of puzzled me a bit. As we have had discussed on this Forum and other, that around 14 or 18 months would be a good time to start some form of training, other than sport..
14 - 18 months..? I remember I (for one) mentioned 1 year of age and not any earlier than that. And yes, even then I would do it only if I see the young dog takes a threat seriously, not just high pitch bark and wag the tail. Hun will get rag / tug work with me to exercise / strengthen his grip and start his discipline training at the age of one year. After a while he will shortly be tested for reaction and if we like what we see (and only then) we will go for "it". and hey, if he shows civil aggression even earlier (in life) than that, well then yes, he will likely undergo protection training accordingly. In my view, it's all about waiting for that "mind clock" in the dog to "tic" and let us know it's time to go to action, whether it's at the age of 12 months or 14, it all depends on that clock. I hope my English is good enough to make the point I am thinking of.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 10:19:02 PM
Hun's great grand sire looks great, and i can picture Hun with a deeper chest and more substance.
well, at 6 months he already has a noticeable chest, so I can only imagine that with age it will only go deeper / stronger
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 13, 2011, 10:46:54 PM
Dani your English is excellent and so would be your knowledge i believe, on when would be the perfect level of maturity to handle the pressure of a serious threat and then building on this.. A deep rumbling bark is so rare to see these days, all this with a solid build and Hun is one super beast..!!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 10:55:48 PM
Thank you for your compliments on my English, you are but too kind! :beer: As far as my knowledge to do with these things, I believe it comes down to knowing what you want to do with the dog and time things accordingly. You want sports, you can have the pup on the sleeve at 6 months old; on the other hand, if you want to go for real stuff (and I just love calling it "real") you wait until the young dog knows a threat is exactly that. And as for Hun - no worries, you will see videos, as he progresses but yeah, he has very distinctive barks for now, high pitch when we play and he asks for the ball, low pitch at night when he hears or sees something.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 13, 2011, 11:10:42 PM
Its good to hear that territorial bark at night, especially if it's deep and echo's through the streets. But not for too long as the neighbours won't be so friendly the next time they see you walk by :grin: Keep it real Dani thats for sure, some might agree to disagree..Oh well we all have our own views when we talk about courage that comes from the heart... ;) And not something programmed in the mind on the field :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2011, 11:16:56 PM
yeah.. it's almost as if you have been following us here :grin: if Hun barked for too long at night, the neighbors may actually call the police lips.sealed :lol: at home in Constanta it's a different story, though ;)
well I have high hopes that Hun will show true courage, coming from the heart, as you put it. i don't want to rush into big words of course, he is a young dog still, but I like what I see so far. Like I was saying in another post recently, Briska is showing what I am looking for at snail-like speed, she is not explosive like your typical west dog or a Czech good bitch, but she has that natural suspicion towards strangers and I love it. Hun on the other hand, shows more that I have hoped for, at his age, which is why I dared to call him my "next Ben". But we will see... At the same age as his, Remus was already reacting like a tiger, to strangers, but the environment in which the two grew up / developed, also has a "word to say".
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 14, 2011, 09:53:16 AM
"I wouldn't mind if Hun will look like that when he's all grown "
It will take 2 years - 2.5 yrs to really see what Hun will look like As you know from seeing the old bloodlines of the ddr and talking about breeding these lines they seldom look anything like the sire or dam of the litters. Many people have little experience in breeding the old bloodlines that are not mixed.Dani you had opportunity to visit and see ,talk and take home a dog. I am sure you have added some knowledge to your breeding program as a result of your viisit to South West Florida USA.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 02:12:08 PM
As you know from seeing the old bloodlines of the ddr and talking about breeding these lines they seldom look anything like the sire or dam of the litters.
True, well Hun himself is black but both parents are black n tan
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Dani you had opportunity to visit and see ,talk and take home a dog. I am sure you have added some knowledge to your breeding program as a result of your viisit to South West Florida USA.
That's right John but I still have much to learn, in fact the more I know, the more I realize there's yet more to know
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 02:13:57 PM
gata dom'le, Hun e constantean :lol:
15 ore in cusca de transport :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 15, 2011, 02:14:45 PM
i-o mai trebui sau nu, vreau sa zic ca e intr-o forma de te da pe spate! Nu are nici un stres... deci, de cand l-am adus in curte nu face decat sa incerce sa domine, se urca cu picioarele din fatza pe bustul meu sau imi cuprinde coapsa si mimeaza actul sexual iar pe Desa o maraie si-o pune de urgenta la colt.. I-am pus Desei sa manance iar el s-a dus sa miroasa (prin gard) ea l-a marait iar el imediat parca a luat foc, cam din momentul asta numai asta face!! incearca sa domine.. cred ca John mi-a vandut un taur, nu un caine!!! :cheesy:
John I think you sold me a bull, not a dog! Ever since arriving, more precisely after feeding Briska and Hun went close to her, she growled at him and he growled back at her twice as intimidating.. well ever since that particular moment, all Hun does is try and dominate, ce climbs up on me with his front legs mimicking the sexual act and growls at Desa at any point she comes close while I touch him. My goodness....
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 15, 2011, 03:20:34 PM
O mai ai pe Desa? :huh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 03:22:23 PM
:grin: fratioare, iar ai fost sa vezi ultimele oferte imobiliare pe luna..? :lol: http://canisa-zimbris.com/forum/index.php?topic=102.210
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 03:27:11 PM
Dani, I told you he was dominate and crazy here. And that when you get him home alone you will see changes. He has bad here always nipping at barbara and would not listen to her at all.I can tell you his sister Fran is also like this. But it is great to know the two of you are home and safe. I hope you enjoy Hun Dani and you know you are :goodnews: welcome here any time
Ti-am spus ca era dominant si nebun si aici. Iar cand va fi singur vei vedea si alte schimbari. Aici era obraznic si plesnea din dinti, nu venea la Barbara cand il chema. Iti pot spune ca sora-sa Fran e la fel. Dar ma bucur sa stiu ca sunteti amandoi teferi acasa. Sper sa te bucuri de Hun si asa cum stii la noi esti oricand binevenit.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 03:32:42 PM
Dani, I told you he was dominate and crazy here. And that when you get him home alone you will see changes. He has bad here always nipping at barbara and would not listen to her at all.I can tell you his sister Fran is also like this.
yeah, on the train he started to bite the sits / chairs (wherever you wanna call them) he just wanted to tear something I am tempted to believe he wants to be the boss, period, since he is looking to mount me, too. John I am looking forward to seeing the potential this pup has. If all I've seen this far are just parts / drops of the bigger picture, than I am up for something big.
da, pe tren incepuse sa muste din scaune, vroia pur si simplu sa muste ceva. Sunt tentat sa cred ca aici vrea sa fie sef, din moment ce se urca si pe mine. Abia astept sa vad potentialul lui cum isi arata culorile. Daca ce am vazut pana acum sunt doar picaturi din ce va urma, atunci ma asteapta ceva surprize.
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But it is great to know the two of you are home and safe. I hope you enjoy Hun Dani and you know you are :goodnews: welcome here any time
Thank you John, yes, I definitely enjoyed your hospitality. Been a long trip but Hun was as crazy as ever as soon as I took him out of the crate, outside the airport. Multumesc John, fara discutie am apreciat ospitalitatea voastra. A fost o calatorie lunga dar Hun a fost la fel de nebun ca intotdeauna, cand l-am scos din cusca, in afara aeroportului.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
I was looking at the photos at the thread when you were hold Hun The First time Look at the size now in a short time
definitely, and he's got more "space" to fill yet! Briska already looks small when she is close to him, I will make some pictures. Talking about Briska, she was so glad to see me again.. she plays with me by biting my arm and man, she got a strong grip just as well!
categoric a crescut mult si inca mai are "loc" de umplut. Briska deja parca s-a "micsorat" pe langa el, o sa fac niste poze. Apropos de Briska, s-a bucurat mult sa ma revada si, cand se joaca cu mine ma musca de bratz si vreau sa zic ca are o priza zdravana, o simti chiar si asa, la joaca.
tear up seats i believe that .I told you he tore up my yard anything he can get those teeth on.
hehe... I read all this and I can anticipate the "fun" ahead.. I know Nicu will have fun working this pup when he's older. abia astept sa vad ce surprize o sa-mi etaleze catelul asta, sunt sigur ca Nicu se va distra la antrenamente cu el.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 04:10:56 PM
Dani, Fran started out slow and then you could see the changes in her.I am sure You will see changes in Hun as he matures. These are slow lines and you know what to do. you should see difference even between Hun and Briska. You will enjoy all of this. and These dogs are very very loyal as you will soon see.. You have your male now
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 15, 2011, 04:26:11 PM
Sounds all super Dani and am really happy that you can finally enjoy Hun on your home turf.. I believe Briska and Desa will be jealous if Hun and yourself will be out and about most of the time..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:26:19 PM
John, it is my utmost pleasure to say I already see Hun's strong attachment to me, and I don't mean the "mounting" I was talking about minutes ago :grin: Even in the airport, Karlton held him while I proceeded with getting the paper work done for Hun to travel with me and man, he went crazy every time I was in his sight or heard my voice. He just wanted to be with me. Also, when Jose and Pedro came visiting at Karlton's, he played with them but at the end of the game he kept coming back to me and you can imagine my satisfaction. If he will be like Fran, than he will definitely be one thick dog, as I remember seeing some serious legs on that bitch and also, she was in no mood for "new friends" so.. yeah, if Hun will be like that, than my search for the DDR dog because of the "description". has finally produced some fruit. And yes, I feel I am "Dani" again now that I have a male GSD, the only one, after Ben,
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 04:29:12 PM
Sounds all super Dani and am really happy that you can finally enjoy Hun on your home turf.. I believe Briska and Desa will be jealous if Hun and yourself will be out and about most of the time..
Reg, Hun will maul Briska and Desa after a short time he will mount both of them. He was doing this here.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:29:33 PM
Sounds all super Dani and am really happy that you can finally enjoy Hun on your home turf.. I believe Briska and Desa will be jealous if Hun and yourself will be out and about most of the time..
hey man, Hun and Briska will go to the beach with me at the same time, not looking to walk the same distance twice in a day :grin: Desa is in Malaysia, I was just letting fabius.m know that, too. yeah man, having Hun here (finally) makes me feel good... But hey, that's not to say Briska will receive any less attention, I love all my dogs, always have. If one of them tends to be closer to my heart, that won't affect the way I relate to my other dogs. Take Desa for example, she's not just with "anyone", she is with Leo ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:30:36 PM
Reg, Hun will maul Briska and Desa after a short time he will mount both of them. He was doing this here.
he's already dominating Briska. Now, she is not the dominant type, to start with, but Hun did the same with Sheba back in Tampa. I think he just wants to be boss. On the other hand, Briska is very playful. when Nicu is here, I will make a short video so you can see Hun's reaction towards Briska, if she comes close while I pet Hun
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 04:40:21 PM
Dani you know the Hun's mother line is very good ,the root blood is great old real ddr blood.I do not have much breeding in this line but you see i combined Huns mother line with my own idea of building a newer line. I like what i see in my bitch i believe her nerve is rock solid and her willingness to protect her owner is relentless her drive is good. I am more then happy with her. Now we have to see how Hun turn out so i will learn more about this combination.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:45:45 PM
Dani you know the Hun's mother line is very good old the root blood is great old real ddr blood.I do not have much breeding in this line but you see i combined Huns mother line
oh yesss. I know I was just checking out Geischa on PDB a few days ago and my goodness!! what blood, what dogs in that pedigree!!!!!!!!!
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with my own idea of building a newer line. I like what i see in my bitch i believe her nerve is rock solid and her willingness to protect her owner is relentless her drive is good. I am more then happy with her. Now we have to see how Hun turn out so i will learn more about this combination.
The way I remember Fran, she is thick and unfriendly. Now, is Hun's drive is anything close to hers, than I guess yes, she's one "complete" bitch, at least in accordance with one's expectations anyway, one like me, for example. You will see plenty of Hun John, so you can analyze things as you please. Judging by how things look so far, I would say your thoughts for this combination were really good.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:46:30 PM
oops.. you were talking about his mother line..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 15, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
Plenty of testosterone is always good, especially when combined with courage from the heart, and its great to hear that Hun wants to take control of his new territory..! Always had faith in you John and your unique and rare DDR lines you have at hand, man wish i was Dani to experience Florida with you John and your loyal K9's . And ofcourse take 1 home, thats for sure..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Plenty of testosterone is always good, especially when combined with courage from the heart, and its great to hear that Hun wants to take control of his new territory..!
well what can I say man, so far I am all impressed with what I see
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 04:51:04 PM
oh yesss. I know I was just checking out Geischa on PDB a few days ago and my goodness!! what blood, what dogs in that pedigree!!!!!!!!! The way I remember Fran, she is thick and unfriendly. Now, is Hun's drive is anything close to hers, than I guess yes, she's one "complete" bitch, at least in accordance with one's expectations anyway, one like me, for example. You will see plenty of Hun John, so you can analyze things as you please. Judging by how things look so far, I would say your thoughts for this combination were really good.
yes Dani breeding is learning how and why things work. And i always say these pups should produce better then their parents given the correct pairing. I Really hope he turns into your next Ben
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 04:52:40 PM
Plenty of testosterone is always good, especially when combined with courage from the heart, and its great to hear that Hun wants to take control of his new territory..! Always had faith in you John and your unique and rare DDR lines you have at hand, man wish i was Dani to experience Florida with you John and your loyal K9's . And ofcourse take 1 home, thats for sure..
Reg it is great to see someone enjoying the old DDR blood
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:54:12 PM
yes Dani breeding is learning how and why things work. And i always say these pups should produce better then their parents given the correct pairing.
John believe me I was already thinking, while flying from Orlando into Europe, which bloodlines to focus on to be able to breed Hun to the right bitch / bitches but there will be a time for that too, I just need to do my homework, I guess. It is also the same reason I was checking out Geischa and other dogs in Hun's ped, just few days ago.
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I Really hope he turns into your next Ben
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Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 15, 2011, 04:56:14 PM
Reg it is great to see someone enjoying the old DDR blood
well if and when the "new" is not as good, what other options does one have...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 15, 2011, 05:44:52 PM
Looking at Hun's Dam side and it sure has some rare 'old school' dogs there, most of them i have not come across in well known dogs, especially when we're talking these days.. I like the fact that she is linebred on Mentor haus Iris who is out of Golf v Ritterberg, who himself has an excellent rating of 5545/55 :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 15, 2011, 05:55:23 PM
Looking at Hun's Dam side and it sure has some rare 'old school' dogs there, most of them i have not come across in well known dogs, especially when we're talking these days.. I like the fact that she is linebred on Mentor haus Iris who is out of Golf v Ritterberg, who himself has an excellent rating of 5545/55 :rockon:
Huns Dam is driven great tracker and she will bite for real she is a sharp bitch
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: bobo70 on November 15, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
Bine ati venit acasa! :toast: Sa ne bagi niste filmari cu "taurasul" in actiune... :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 16, 2011, 02:18:19 AM
Nu te supara Dani, dar nici eu nu am inteles absolut deloc ce vrei sa spui aici :
multumim! i-o mai trebui sau nu, vreau sa zic ca e intr-o forma de te da pe spate! Nu are nici un stres... deci, de cand l-am adus in curte nu face decat sa incerce sa domine, se urca cu picioarele din fatza pe bustul meu sau imi cuprinde coapsa si mimeaza actul sexual iar pe Desa o maraie si-o pune de urgenta la colt.. I-am pus Desei sa manance iar el s-a dus sa miroasa (prin gard) ea l-a marait iar el imediat parca a luat foc, cam din momentul asta numai asta face!! incearca sa domine.. cred ca John mi-a vandut un taur, nu un caine!!! :cheesy:
Bine ati venit acasa! :toast: Sa ne bagi niste filmari cu "taurasul" in actiune... :cheesy:
Multumim! Vreau sa zic ca m-am trezit de nu stiu cate ori noaptea trecuta (abia acum m-am trezit de-a binelea :cheesy: ) Eu ma intrebam oare cat ii va lua sa-si intre in "drepturi" ca si paznic.. hehe, deja "canta in cor" cu Briska! :lol: Ok, o sa fac o filmare, daca va continua sa se urce si pe mine si vreau sa prind si cateva secunde de reactie fatza de Briska, asa se va vedea mai clar ce are taurasul asta in cap :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 16, 2011, 04:24:42 AM
Huns Dam is driven great tracker and she will bite for real she is a sharp bitch
I like her drive, she reminds me of Axa in a way
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 16, 2011, 05:43:14 AM
going back to talking about looks - my goodness.... if Hun will turn out to be another Pushka but not just in looks of course, then that will be pretty much IT for me, it will be like finding a treasure deep on the ocean floor
Ye its the bone strength, colour pigmentation and character, also the history of how and when they originated.. Held is there a few times and this adds the cream on the cake,for future breeding. Its all original and rare combination in Hun's bloodline :rockon:
Reg, Dani has a Very good ddr gene pool in Hun.This is what you need to start to save the old ddr blood.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 18, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
Ye its the bone strength, colour pigmentation and character, also the history of how and when they originated.. Held is there a few times and this adds the cream on the cake,for future breeding. Its all original and rare combination in Hun's bloodline :rockon:
Indy line breeding 5 - 5,4........................................... in V Held vom Ritterberg
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 18, 2011, 08:42:04 PM
John would Quindt vom Barutherland have been a better producer than his litter brother Quai. Because i know that through your other dogs you have Quai in the bloodline, i think it was via Annah haus Gebets.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 19, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
John would Quindt vom Barutherland have been a better producer than his litter brother Quai. Because i know that through your other dogs you have Quai in the bloodline, i think it was via Annah haus Gebets.
Indy has Quindt vom Barutherland in his ped and i had 2 female line bred Quai. The only difference i can tell was Quai was only a sch2 and had a short life due to his owner.so he seen little from him
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 22, 2011, 02:35:17 AM
I am amazed yet again to see how much Hun reminds me of Hun. Now, why I say that; When I take him out for walks in different parts of the town (socialization purpose I guess) he walks the exact same way Ben was, which is walking gently or slightly staying behind me every few seconds. He is not scared by anything nor is he particularly attracted by anything. We got down to the beach and when he saw a big long "layer" of stairs to walk down, he stopped and looked like scared at first and hesitated to go down the stairs. At that point I said to my self "oh no.. " but I gave him a few seconds and he was just fine, I didn't "help" in any way and that made me proud of him. We got down to the rocks just by the sea just like I did with Briska and same thing, at first he hesitated but quickly gained confidence without any help from me. I just love this pup. Right now he's "playing" with a beef bone, knocking himself out with it.
One other thing - I let him play tug with Briska, it's interesting to note the difference in how they bite / pull; Briska has a more "convinced" pull and dominates the game, Hun though, has a full, firm bite and does not let go one millimeter, no matter what. I will try and get that on video for you to have fun watching that.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 22, 2011, 02:46:50 AM
Hun ma uimeste din nou, prin faptul ca imi tot aminteste de Ben. Am inceput sa-l scot prin oras in scopul socializarii si, va spun ca merge exact asa cum mergea Ben, adica, oarecum "apatic", nu il sperie nimic dar nici nu-l atrage nimic. Iar prin zone mai pustii e f atent la cei care trec pe langa mine. L-am dus la plaja si cand a vazut multimea de trepte care trebuiau coborate, initial s-a "blocat" si nu vroia sa coboare si ma gandeam "ah.. iete o prima hiba". Dar fara ajutor din partea mea, si-a facut curaj si in cateva secunde "plonjam" amandoi spre plaja. L-am dus la stancile unde am dus-o si pe Briska, chiar langa mare (am postat imagini si clipuri cu luni in urma) si aceeasi poveste, daca initial au existat scurte momente de exitare, la fel de scurte au fost si momentele in care si-a facut curaj. La capitolul paza suntem multumiti, ma latra si pe mine daca ma arat la geam cu o caciula ceva, asa incat sa nu ma recunoasca imediat. Il mai las o vreme si apoi voi face ceva filmari. Acum se lupta cu un os de vita in curte :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 22, 2011, 04:18:32 PM
Held is there a few times and this adds the cream on the cake,for future breeding.
a while back, i was thinking you mention Held too often in your comments, but indeed he appears in the ped of many, many good working dogs (I am particularly thnking of Czech dogs when I say that). So yeah, call me proud for having Hun :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 22, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
Ye as you know Held got me hooked on the DDR type of working GSD, and to see his progeny like Bero through to Titus.. Am happy that plenty of that Held bloodline came your way, plus all the rest of the mix..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 22, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Am happy that plenty of that Held bloodline came your way, plus all the rest of the mix..
oh yes, I feel privileged and am monitoring Hun with both somewhat curiosity but anticipation too. I will learn more about him soon as we will go a number of places and I will watch his personality unpack.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 23, 2011, 06:18:17 AM
ahhh.... John m-a avertizat ca Hun e nebun, dar la asta nu m-am asteptat :grin: :cheesy: am iesit in curte si... bang! pubela daramata si gunoiul imprastiat prin curte!!!!!!!!! sa-mi trag una.. iar daca il "cert" latra la mine :grin: O sa incerc sa prind pe video sa vedeti cum fac si Briska si Hun cand ii cert, de fapt se cearta si ei cu mine :grin:
John Iknow you said Hun is crazy, but today he knocked over the trash bin and so my yard looked colorful by the time I got out :cheesy: He is a crazy pup indeed! :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 23, 2011, 06:23:10 AM
ahhh.... John m-a avertizat ca Hun e nebun, dar la asta nu m-am asteptat :grin: :cheesy: am iesit in curte si... bang! pubela daramata si gunoiul imprastiat prin curte!!!!!!!!! sa-mi trag una.. iar daca il "cert" latra la mine :grin: O sa incerc sa prind pe video sa vedeti cum fac si Briska si Hun cand ii cert, de fapt se cearta si ei cu mine :grin:
Ce-mi creste inima cand vad cum si altii indura ce indur si eu din dragoste pentru :CG: Astazi, m-am distrat pe cinste :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 23, 2011, 06:42:05 AM
:grin:
da.. pai nici eu, nu ma supar la chestii de-astea. Ii "cert" (chipurile) dar ei dau din coada si latra ca stiu ca nu e asa serioasa treaba :grin: doar ca ulterior am de adunat de prin curte :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 23, 2011, 06:57:04 AM
da.. pai nici eu, nu ma supar la chestii de-astea. Ii "cert" (chipurile) dar ei dau din coada si latra ca stiu ca nu e asa serioasa treaba :grin: doar ca ulterior am de adunat de prin curte :cheesy:
Dani it is good to see you are having fun with Hun. He likes keeping you busy picking up after him. I am Sureeeeeee it will get better Ha
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 23, 2011, 07:03:15 AM
ok, now you scare me.. by "better" do you actually mean "worse" :cheesy: :grin: Well, he wrecked some stuff while he was in Charlotte, I guess he wants to hold the tradition and wreck stuff over here too :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 23, 2011, 07:08:00 AM
Oh yes you are most likely in for a good time. :devil:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 23, 2011, 07:09:39 AM
Asa am procedat si eu la inceput...iar cand ii dadeam drumul facea mai rau...parca in ciuda si in draci :laugh:
pai bun atunci, lasa sa-si pastreze bateriile intacte pana la plimbarea in oras si pe plaja :lol: Oricum, presimt ca o sa gaseasca el ceva in "neregula" si in padoc, cusca, de exemplu..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 24, 2011, 03:56:28 AM
Oricum, presimt ca o sa gaseasca el ceva in "neregula" si in padoc, cusca, de exemplu..
Anouk tocmai o demoleaza...pardon...redecoreaza :laugh: Trebuie sa-i pun alte scanduri in cusca (e din caramida) pentru ca le-a scurtat si nu mai ajung la suportii care le tineau suspendate tazi
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 04:01:13 AM
ee.. e ok, ii dau voie sa fie nebun cat vrea, va avea nevoie de ea si la lucru si cand monteaza :grin: apropos de partea cu montatul, pe Briska cum o prinde "neatenta" cum o incaleca :grin: indianu' Talpa Iute :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 24, 2011, 04:11:21 AM
ee.. e ok, ii dau voie sa fie nebun cat vrea, va avea nevoie de ea si la lucru si cand monteaza :grin:
Daca nu-s nebuni acum cand au energie 200% cand sa fie...eu o las de capul ei libera si nestanjenita, fara restrictii; am renuntat sa mai adun dupa ea prin curte si toata lumea ma intreaba de unde tot aduna si imprastie tot felul de lucruri. Mai nou rupe ramuri din salcie si le aseaza intr-un aranjament natural doar de ea inteles :laugh: Asa ca asteapta-te la orice si nu te mai lamenta :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 04:16:26 AM
nu ma lamentez, ma "laud" :grin: nu ma supar sa tot adun dupa cel sau ca mai strica una alta, cu cat e mai nebun cu cat ma face sa zambesc mai mult, de fapt. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 24, 2011, 04:18:41 AM
In vara ne-am intalnit cu o catelusa maidaneza pe care Tara a tolerat-o...Eram cu ea afara in lesa, biata catelusa cauta o vorba buna si se tinea dupa noi, iar cand s-a apropiat mai mult, ne-am trezit ca Tara mea "monta" la greu. Am ras de ne-am prapadit. Femeluta respectiva era taaare simpatica, dar Tara nu a "slabit-o" cat a stat cu noi, era numai calare pe ea. :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 04:28:41 AM
Hun imi "monteaza" soldul ori de cateva ori pe zi :grin: am tot zis ca o sa prind un moment de-asta pe video dar parca totusi n-as vrea sa vada tot youtube-ul chestia asta :cheesy: :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 24, 2011, 04:30:16 AM
Cu mine, Tara n-a incercat niciodata. In schimb a incercat cu alte persoane, de cateva ori, dar mai ales cu caini, aiaiai, la greu! :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 04:31:35 AM
rad (in ce-l priveste pe Hun), pt ca asta imi indica anumite aspecte, pe care eu le doresc la un CG, altfel nu cred ca m-as amuza chiar asa tare :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 04:42:09 AM
am iesit iar la ei putin, cum se duce Briska sa bea apa (din galeata) hopa! se trezeste cu un caine negru calare pe ea :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 24, 2011, 04:56:51 AM
nu ma supar sa tot adun dupa cel sau ca mai strica una alta, cu cat e mai nebun cu cat ma face sa zambesc mai mult, de fapt. :)
Orice ar fi, un caine iti insenineaza zilele, chiar si pe cele mai urate. Iar cand sunt mici sunt cu atat mai adorabili...exact ca copiii aia poznasi si obraznici, daca nu fac prostioare ori is prosti or is bolnavi :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 05:32:50 AM
oho.. daca m-as intinde la detalii in privinta asta.. ce de schimbari pozitive a adus prezenta unul catel (Ben) la noi in familie, cu ani buni in urma..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 05:45:52 AM
asta-i facuta acum cateva minute, are aceeasi moaca ca acum vreo 2 luni, sau cand l-am bagat in forum prima oara..
Ce fete de inocenti...nici usturoi n-au mancat nici gura nu le miroase :laugh:
:grin:
Briska e meru acolo langa poarta, e f "alerta" cam tot timpul, o data la cateva minute mai ies la ea sa ii distrag atentia. Cred ca a invatat de la Desa sa fie atat de teritoriala.. iar Hun.. i se facuse somn, eu am iesit pregatit sa-i fac cateva poze dar dupa cum se uita la mine vroia sa traga pe dreapta. Astept sa-si pastreze urechea dreapta ridicata si tragem o sesiune foto la plaja, cu un aparat "smecher", astea-s facute cu functia foto a camerei video.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 24, 2011, 06:45:45 AM
Ce ursulet numa' bun de smotocit! Mai ales cu mutrisoara aia!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 24, 2011, 06:48:32 AM
Ce mare este! :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 24, 2011, 06:49:43 AM
E inalt asa-i, cam cat are la greaban?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 06:50:00 AM
da, e mare
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 06:50:57 AM
ah.. uite ca nu l-am masurat. Acum doarme, cand se trezeste caut o ruleta si-l masor. asa la ochiometru as spune ca in momentul de fatza mai mult se lungeste
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 07:25:13 AM
m-am strofocat si l-am prins din lateral, dar o sa fac unele bune la plaja. cum spuneam, cand Briska bea apa, el incearca sa o incalece :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on November 24, 2011, 07:27:07 AM
De acu" o sa i se ridice bine, e frumos ,si mare tare pentru varsta lui
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 07:29:31 AM
Cand le va ridica definitiv, le va tine usor mai departate. Acum cand se cam "proptesc" una in cealalta, stau asa mai apropiate Da, e mare, tocmai de-aia sunt atent cu miscarea /exercitiul, pana la un an si ceva nu va face alergari de-astea mai serioase dupa aport, pe plaja, asa cum obisnuiesc sa fac cu cainii mei.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Bogdan on November 24, 2011, 07:34:07 AM
Esti un fericit daca poti sa lasi galeata cu apa nepazita. La mine nu rezista nici vasele de metal.
oo.. am trecut si pe-acolo! Galeata e safe pt acum, Hun a luat la ochi altele, iar Briska are obiceiul sa scoata apa din galeata, in cel mai rau caz, dar galeata in sine o lasa in pace. Dar le voi lua galeti metalice pe viitor, pt orice eventualitate.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 07:41:40 AM
inca una din lateral, slabutza si asta, ca sa-l prind bine in cadru trebuie de fapt sa-l tin eu si altcineva sa faca poza. Higroma aia de la cot a inceput sa se retraga de cateva zile, vetul din Florida a zis s-o las asa ca se "calmeaza".
Ye as you know Held got me hooked on the DDR type of working GSD Am happy that plenty of that Held bloodline came your way, plus all the rest of the mix..
well I am glad I may be making your day better, just like John made mine.. check this out - this is a Held direct son and actually am pretty sure Hun will look similar to that as an adult dog, not just as far as looks but movement too. Such footage is pure gold to anyone who knows something about east bloodlines.
John mi-a facut ziua mai speciala cu secventele astea video, este vorba de un fiu direct de Held Ritterberg, cam asa zic eu ca va fi si Hun - nu doar in privinta aspectului dar si a miscarii (ceva mai greoi).
pt cine cunoaste liniile estice, astfel de imagini sunt aur curat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTAXvP7x6N8
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on November 24, 2011, 12:18:23 PM
foarte solid Hun, o sa fie un barbat zdravan!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2011, 12:21:29 PM
da, la 6 luni sunt super multumit cum arata
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
Acelasi caine, din clip. Nepot de Ingo Rudingen... daca ar posta si altii clipuri cu caini din generatia respectiva, vai ce m-as bucura
same dog, if only there were more online videos of dogs from those times, it would be great
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 25, 2011, 05:11:03 AM
Ooo., preferatele Tarei. Uite ca maine ii voi cumapara si eu un os sau doua de vita, ca n-a mai primit de ceva vreme. Este superb in ultima poza, cred ca toata ziua l-as smotoci! Are o privire si-un cap de ma da pe spate! :bighug:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 05:19:56 AM
da, il smotocesc si eu toata ziua si ii place, sta asa nemiscat pana termin cu alintatul. Asa fac cu toti, sa vezi pe Remus ce-l mai smotoceam, de parca era un catelus mic. De Briska nu mai zic, ca e femela, o alint si-i place si ei la nebunie. Timpul asta mai "dulce" petrecut cu cainele isi are locul lui important in formarea caracterului cainelui si, mai cred ca multi ignora asta.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 25, 2011, 05:28:47 AM
Asa este, eu mai cred ca ajuta si la intarirea relatiei caine-proprietar. Tara nu e prea afectuoasa, nu prea sta la smotocit, dar din timp in timp, vine din proprie intiativa si cere atentie. Uneori o mai iau si in pat, sa ne uitam la TV. Atunci, se cuibareste langa mine si adoarme, dar imi da un sentiment de siguranta si liniste.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 05:30:13 AM
Asa este, eu mai cred ca ajuta si la intarirea relatiei caine-proprietar.
Categoric!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 08:08:08 AM
Ne-am intors acum de la plaja.. din nou o spun, catelul asta imi aminteste mult de Ben, merge f calm langa piciorul meu, chiar daca-i scot zgarda de pe gat. Ne-am intalnit cu un Rottie si ne-am jucat, iar cand Rott-ul a ajuns inaintea lui la aport, s-a lasat cu scandal. Dar si Rott-ul e tanar asa ca doar s-au marait, nu s-au batut. Asa era Ben - nimic nu-l speria si nimic nu-l atragea in mod deosebit si, asa e si Hun.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 25, 2011, 11:42:01 AM
Imi place privirea la cainele asta; n-ai face si tu niste poze mai de doamne ajuta sa se vada ca e frumos. Cred ca faci parte din categoria pozarilor care scoate mireasa sasie :grin: Cate Kg are Hun?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 11:47:26 AM
:grin: nu scot mireasa sasie, din contra, jobul meu e sa o scot bine, chiar daca e de fapt urata (dar cica nu exista mireasa urata :lol: )
ba da, o sa-i trag niste poze profi dupa ce salta urechile alea definitiv avea 27 si ceva, acum aprox 2 saptamani, acum asa la ochiometru ii dau pana in 32.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 25, 2011, 11:52:46 AM
:grin: nu scot mireasa sasie, din contra, jobul meu e sa o scot bine, chiar daca e de fapt urata (dar cica nu exista mireasa urata :lol: )
ba da, o sa-i trag niste poze profi dupa ce salta urechile alea definitiv avea 27 si ceva, acum aprox 2 saptamani, acum asa la ochiometru ii dau pana in 32.
Aveam un profesor de romana in liceu care spunea...daca toate miresele sunt frumoase de unde dracu' atatea femei urate? :laugh: Eram curioasa de greutate, ca maimuta mea are 25 kg, putin peste grafic.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 12:15:37 PM
Pai Hun are un tip de constructie mai "greoaie", am vazut-o pe sora-sa Fran si cam stiu la ce sa ma astept. Va fi un caine mai greoi, nu doar in kg cat si in miscari.
In alta ordine de idei, treptele care trebuies coborate spre plaja, adica unele din ele, sunt destul de inalte si, mi-a placut sa-l urmaresc cum cobora cu atentie, asa mai "izometric", nu in viteza, daca intelegi ce vreau sa spun. Era foarte calculat, ca sa spun asa.
Ce mai.. sunt indragostit de catelul asta "cat cuprinde".
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on November 25, 2011, 12:21:17 PM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 12:25:54 PM
:)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 25, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
Good to hear Hun is progressing well and show his Male dominance, working and relying on his hormones.. The video of the Held son is really impressive, a SUPER powerfully built Male, looks great in a solid black also.. Your right about the shortage of these classic clips, especially when there DDR dogs in action..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 25, 2011, 09:41:04 PM
yeah, I just love such videos, pure vintage gold for someone like me..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 26, 2011, 10:03:43 AM
m-am bucurat sa vad ca incepe sa-si salte ambele antene astea-s facute la aprox 5 minute dupa ultima sedinta de ros
Eu sunt curios de o chestie, in mare parte cainii DDR sunt ceva mai mari ca talie decat standardul? asta insemnand peste 65 cmm la greaban
hmm.. nu cred ca e de generalizat asta.. adica, ma uit de exemplu la Briska, ea n-a mai crescut f mult de cand am adus-o si e relativ si usurica dar asta si pt ca nu i-a prin bine hrana (pe care am schimbat-o recent iar schimbarile deja se vad). Hun insa cred ca are lejer peste 60 deja, e mare si inca mai creste. Din ce-am mai vazut intr-adevar femelele V de la vd Old Lady au dat namile de caini deci nu ma surprinde ca Hun se va face taur. In principiu da, cainii estici sunt "setati" genetic sa fie mai mari, ceea ce inseamna si mai greoi in miscare, motiv pt care in competiile sportive vezi mai mult caini vestici, usori si care lucreaza rapid, ceea ce puncteaza bine. Lasa poate ne vedem la un eveniment ceva si il vezi pe Hun, pe care il vei putea compara in sesnul asta, cu alti CG. Dar m-as abtine sa spun ca e 'regula" sa sara de 65 la greaban, astia DDR. Stai sa "bag" si-n engleza ca o sa citeasca si nenea John..
I don't think we are to make a rule out of the fact that DDR dogs are over 65 cm at withers. I mean, take Briska for example, she hasn't grown much bigger since I brought her, she also a bit light but that's also because I fed her the wrong brand of food, which i changed not long ago and i can already see the benefits. Hun though, has easily over 60 cm at withers and he is still growing, I noted the V bitches from vd Old Lady did produce fairly large dogs so I'm not surprised may turn out to be a bull. So yes, the DDR are normally larger, thicker and that also means slower movement, which is why you see moslty west dogs in k9 sports. Maybe we will meet at a dog event and you can see Hun with your own eyes and draw some conclusions. But again, I wouldn't say all or most DDR dogs will grow taller than 65 cm at withers.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 29, 2011, 03:35:40 AM
m-am exprimat gresit d-asta a parut ca generalizez, dar eu asa ii vedeam pe cei estici(cel putin in pozele care de cele mai multe ori pacalesc ochiul), mai mari in comparatie cu ceilalti. dar stiu ca sunt destule exemplare care depasesc 65.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 03:38:30 AM
da, astia estici sunt mai mari in cele mai multe cazuri, decat astia vestici dar, pe ici pe colo dai de caini vestici babani. Ma gandesc acum la 2 cazuri, Sasha a lui edi ar fi un caz, celalalt - avem aici la Constanta un caine pe care l-am mai pomenit, Cezar (noi ii spunem Cezarica). Este un TANC de caine, mai mare decat Nor, care este si el o batoza. Sunt tentat sa cred ca Hun se va face cam cat Nor dar cu alta constructie. Nah, toate la timpul lor..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 29, 2011, 03:41:27 AM
Si ce se intampla in expozitii cu acesti caini care depasesc talia stabilita de standard?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 03:42:52 AM
Si ce se intampla in expozitii cu acesti caini care depasesc talia stabilita de standard?
pai.. eu deja am emotii ca am caine negru, iar unii arbitrii romani au spus ca nu exista CG nergu :grin: pai sincer nu m-am confruntat cu cazuri reale, poate ne spune cineva ce si cum, care a trecut prin asta cu cainele.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 29, 2011, 03:47:17 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 29, 2011, 04:13:37 AM
Eram ieri cu Taz p-afara si m-a oprit cineva care spunea ca are si el caini, merge pe la expozitii, in fine.. si cica omu: " e foarte frumos, dar trebuia sa-ti iei mai pe negru ca nu e in standard"
Eram ieri cu Taz p-afara si m-a oprit cineva care spunea ca are si el caini, merge pe la expozitii, in fine.. si cica omu: " e foarte frumos, dar trebuia sa-ti iei mai pe negru ca nu e in standard"
Deci ar fi mai problema culoarea decat talia?
:grin: cine stie, poate la noi.. in fine, eu stiu de 2 cazuri, unul stiu sigur la Bucuresti, celalalt nu mai tin minte. Arbitrul a spus cu gura lui ca nu exista "negru complet" in standard :salut:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 29, 2011, 04:15:42 AM
In situatiile de genul, in lipsa altor masuri, ce se poate face este sa eviti a merge la expo-urile la care arbitreaza cei despre care stii ca au ceva cu CG-ul de lucru...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 04:45:13 AM
Eram ieri cu Taz p-afara si m-a oprit cineva care spunea ca are si el caini, merge pe la expozitii, in fine.. si cica omu: " e foarte frumos, dar trebuia sa-ti iei mai pe negru ca nu e in standard"
:grin: acum am vazut.......... n-am cuvinte.. trebuia sa-i spui "siti bancul cu oile?" :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on November 29, 2011, 04:50:29 AM
era frumos sa zica ca asta negru e alsacian nu ciobanesc german :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 05:03:23 AM
era frumos sa zica ca asta negru e alsacian nu ciobanesc german :grin:
pe mine m-au intrebat (inclusiv lucratorul aeroportului care mi l-a adus la iesire) daca e "canadian" :grin: exista mentalitatea asta la noi ca, daca e caine cu aspectul clasic negru + maron e C German, daca e mai mult negru cu putin maron e "alsacian" iar daca e negru complet, e "canadian".
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on November 29, 2011, 05:03:53 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
am mutat aici (http://canisa-zimbris.com/forum/index.php?topic=459.105) discutia pe seama aspectului cainelui de lucru, negru
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 29, 2011, 03:34:14 PM
The footage of the 'F' litter looks super, especially the solid black pup in front. Has short thick muzzle and strong overall head. Not sure if that was Hun or the other solid black pup running towards the camera.. In regards to the question of size or the height, its better if the dog is under 65 cm if it's going to be a working dog IMO.. But it should have the strong looking forechest and depth of chest, and a strong masculine head with overall bone strength, pretty much like Titus Pohranicini straze or John's dog Sammy D.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 29, 2011, 11:31:29 PM
The footage of the 'F' litter looks super, especially the solid black pup in front. Has short thick muzzle and strong overall head. Not sure if that was Hun or the other solid black pup running towards the camera..
That's the the F litter, not H, Hun is not in the mix. Yes same parents but different year, kind of like wine :grin:
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In regards to the question of size or the height, its better if the dog is under 65 cm if it's going to be a working dog IMO.. But it should have the strong looking forechest and depth of chest, and a strong masculine head with overall bone strength, pretty much like Titus Pohranicini straze or John's dog Sammy D.
yes the bigger the (working) dog is, the heavier the movement, in most cases..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on November 30, 2011, 10:54:26 AM
Hun sa facut frumos. Corpul este lung ca si la cainii de show O sa obtii rezultate bune si la frumusete Mie imi place tipul asta de corp , nu imi plac cainii scurti grosi si scunzi
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 30, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
Corpul este lung ca si la cainii de show O sa obtii rezultate bune si la frumusete
asa arata pt acum, este o etapa a cresteri, fratii lui nu arata asa.. oricum, chestia e ca Hun e consangvinizat pe caini care au intr-adevar un look de felul de care spui. In pozele astea ultimele a iesit cu crupa mai "saltata".. astept sa-si salte definitiv urechile alea odata si ii voi trage niste poze profi la plaja, sa se vada cam ce structura / constructie are. Este foarte, foarte pasiv fatza de cainii maidanezi care se reped la noi cand mergem in parc, nu se sperie de ei dar nici nu reactioneaza intr-un mod anume, ci doar sta pe loc cu coada usor saltata si parul usor ridicat pe ceafa. Ben era la fel, nu avea treaba cu cainii. Azi eram in curte si mi-a vazut silueta reflectata in geam si mama, ce show a iesit :grin: Eram cu camera video in curte, poate am prins scena, o sa verific..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on November 30, 2011, 11:05:44 AM
corp frumos asa are si India Kessi si Marcus
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 30, 2011, 11:11:42 AM
da, adica mie cel putin imi place. era un black n tan fff f f f f f f f frumos pe anatomie si nu numai, in cuib dar l-am luat pe Hun pe considerente de temperament.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on November 30, 2011, 11:21:21 AM
Hun este frumos pe fizic
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 30, 2011, 11:31:59 AM
muah.. mie mi-a placut la nebunie, dar Hun era mai retras si mai bataus
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on November 30, 2011, 11:41:57 AM
tie iti plac cei negri cu maro mai ales cer mai deschisi,mie nu imi plac
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on November 30, 2011, 11:43:39 AM
da, prefer cainii cu aspect "clasic" black n tan dar nu bat nimic in cuie. cand l-am luat pe Ben mai erau 2 catei in cuib, el si cu un fratior negru - l-am luat pe el datorita aspectului/marcajelor dar s-a nimerit sa fie bun si-n temperament.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 01, 2011, 04:04:50 AM
nu suntem prea bine.. am fost la urgenta dar abia maine aflam care e treaba..
:shocked: Ce s-a intamplat? A patit ceva?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
o sa aflu in vreo 2 ore, sper ca nu a incercat cineva sa-l otraveasca. acum dimineatza era putin mai vioi dar tot nu mananca si merge aiurea, parca da sa pice jos oricand.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 05, 2011, 11:03:12 PM
o sa aflu in vreo 2 ore, sper ca nu a incercat cineva sa-l otraveasca. acum dimineatza era putin mai vioi dar tot nu mananca si merge aiurea, parca da sa pice jos oricand.
Of, of, ai probleme cu apropierea prea mare a vecinilor acolo la tine. Speram sa nu fie nimic grav. Sa ne anunti schimbarile...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:11:31 PM
Of, of, ai probleme cu apropierea prea mare a vecinilor acolo la tine.
da, este o provocare cel putin in ultima vreme. cand lipsesc mai mult de-acasa, Briska latra cam la tot ce misca sau i se pare ca misca, mai ales daca e singura in curte, e f f f f vigilenta. Ieri mama chiar imi spunea ca zilele trecute se gandea ca poate va incerca cineva sa-i otraveasca. Ma voi muta intr-o zona mai buna dar cand s-or dezghetza imobiliarele, adica nu f curand. Bine-nteles ca voi tine ceva caini si la noua noastra locatie, unde e super bine, dar cu mine voi tine cel putin un caine.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 05, 2011, 11:23:11 PM
la 10 mergem la vet. sa vezi ce show iese daca aflu ca e vb de otrava
Speeeer sa nu fie vorba de otrava! :Sad: Nu doresc nimanui sa treaca prin ce-am trecut noi.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:25:06 PM
e putin mai vioi fatza de noaptea trecuta, dar vioiciunea vine doar asa in reproze scurte, ma gandesc ca daca era vb de otrava lucrurile ar fi avut un curs anume si in nici un caz, unul pozitiv, nu?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 05, 2011, 11:31:00 PM
Bai ce fel e lumea asta frate!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 05, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
Nu pot sa cred ca sunt posibile asemenea lucruri...mare ti-e gradina Doamne...sper insanatosire grabnica micutului Hun indiferent de motivul starii de rau. Ma gandesc si eu ca lucrurile ar fi luat o turnura mai grava pana acum, dar nu e in afara pericolului daca a fost otravit.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 05, 2011, 11:31:51 PM
e putin mai vioi fatza de noaptea trecuta, dar vioiciunea vine doar asa in reproze scurte, ma gandesc ca daca era vb de otrava lucrurile ar fi avut un curs anume si in nici un caz, unul pozitiv, nu?
Noi nu stim exact cand s-a otravit al nostru - decat ca era seara mai tarziu. In decursul noptii - nu la foarte mult timp dupa ce-am venit cu el in casa - a inceput sa vomeze. A vomat "normal" de vreo 2-3 ori, iar apoi, dupa un interval mai mare de timp in care nu a vomat dar se agita prin camera, a inceput sa vomeze sange...atunci ne-am panicat cu adevarat, dar era tardiv. Chiar nu ne-am gandit, pana nu am vazut sangele, ca ar putea fi vorba de otrava. Si eu cred ca daca ar fi vorba de otrava in cazul lui Hun, s-ar fi manifestat deja in vreun fel asemanator. DAR, nu trebuie exclusa din ecuatie si ipoteza asta, naiba stie ce otravuri mai sunt acum, oamenii sunt tare "inventivi" cand vine vorba sa faca rau. Sa ne ti la curent.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:32:43 PM
stai.. ca nu ma grabesc sa spun sigur ca e vb de otrava, posibil sa fi ingerat el ceva.. mi-e mila de el, s-a subtiat tare intr-un timp scurt iar dupa moaca lui se vede ca nu-i a buna, astept sa se faca 10 mai repede sa-l duc la vet, la urgenta este doar un asistent.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: bobo70 on December 05, 2011, 11:34:07 PM
....................... ma gandesc ca daca era vb de otrava lucrurile ar fi avut un curs anume si in nici un caz, unul pozitiv, nu?
Nu neaparat. Depinde de caine, de felul acesteia, de cantitatea ingerata. El este un caine destul de mare pentru a face fata cu brio unei doze mai mici. Sa speram ca este doar o indispozitie trecatoare cauzata de cu totul alt ceva...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
Nu pot sa cred ca sunt posibile asemenea lucruri...mare ti-e gradina Doamne...sper insanatosire grabnica micutului Hun indiferent de motivul starii de rau.
multumim!
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Ma gandesc si eu ca lucrurile ar fi luat o turnura mai grava pana acum, dar nu e in afara pericolului daca a fost otravit.
Noi nu stim exact cand s-a otravit al nostru - decat ca era seara mai tarziu. In decursul noptii - nu la foarte mult timp dupa ce-am venit cu el in casa - a inceput sa vomeze. A vomat "normal" de vreo 2-3 ori, iar apoi, dupa un interval mai mare de timp in care nu a vomat dar se agita prin camera, a inceput sa vomeze sange...atunci ne-am panicat cu adevarat, dar era tardiv. Chiar nu ne-am gandit, pana nu am vazut sangele, ca ar putea fi vorba de otrava. Si eu cred ca daca ar fi vorba de otrava in cazul lui Hun, s-ar fi manifestat deja in vreun fel asemanator. DAR, nu trebuie exclusa din ecuatie si ipoteza asta, naiba stie ce otravuri mai sunt acum, oamenii sunt tare "inventivi" cand vine vorba sa faca rau. Sa ne ti la curent.
citind ce spui, as crede ca intr-adevar nu e vb de otrava.. dar acum nu stiu.. trebuie sa stept sa vad ce iese la eco, etc, ce i-or face la vet
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 05, 2011, 11:35:53 PM
Dar acum ce face?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:36:47 PM
Nu neaparat. Depinde de caine, de felul acesteia, de cantitatea ingerata. El este un caine destul de mare pentru a face fata cu brio unei doze mai mici. Sa speram ca este doar o indispozitie trecatoare cauzata de cu totul alt ceva...
cam astea-s semnele - nu mananca, stare de apatie si merge aiurea, de parca il inteapa ceva in labe / pernutze si se aseaza des. Are o moaca trista tare.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 05, 2011, 11:38:22 PM
trebuie sa stept sa vad ce iese la eco, etc, ce i-or face la vet
N-ai si tu un doctor pe care sa-l deranjezi la orice ora???....in cele mai multe cazuri orele sunt extrem de importante pentru diagnosticarea si tratamentul cainelui
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
N-ai si tu un doctor pe care sa-l deranjezi la orice ora???....in cele mai multe cazuri orele sunt extrem de importante pentru diagnosticarea si tratamentul cainelui
ba da am unul "greu" in Constanta pe care l-as fi dranjat, categoric, daca-l vedeam pe Hun mai grav decat era ieri seara.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 05, 2011, 11:42:03 PM
astept sa se faca 10 mai repede sa-l duc la vet, la urgenta este doar un asistent.
Nooo, pai cum? Daca e urgenta, eu stiu ca poti chema medicul mai repede la cabinet, nu sa astepti dupa el. Ca doar de aia e urgenta... :undecided: Noi am trezit medicul la ora 1 si ceva atunci... :cheesy:
cam astea-s semnele - nu mananca, stare de apatie si merge aiurea, de parca il inteapa ceva in labe / pernutze si se aseaza des. Are o moaca trista tare.
Asa era Tara cand a facut criza aceea la ficat. Doar ca ea mai si tremura si avea ficatul umflat ca se vedea...am gasit-o pe jos, langa usa, tremurand. Cand am chemat-o, a venit dar umbla foarte..."intepat" as spune, parca mergea pe carbuni incinsi, a baut doar apa, pe care a dat-o afara la cateva clipe dupa.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 05, 2011, 11:43:44 PM
nu vreau sa te descurajez, dar daca starea asta a aparut brusc e dubios tare.. Si mie mi-a fost otravita o catea mai demult, si am gasit-o foarte moale tolanita in curte, initial credeam ca doarme. Cand am dus-o la vet, i-a bagat perfuzie imediat, avea sangele roz. Vet-ul spunea ca a fost otravita cu o cantitate destul de mare.. Doamne ajuta sa-si revina!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:44:42 PM
nu vreau sa te descurajez, dar daca starea asta a aparut brusc e dubios tare..
mai, nu a fost o chestie brusca, ieri dimineatza nu a vrut sa manance, iar el de obicei mananca bine, nu sta si se "gandeste". Apoi seara iar nu a mancat iar cand am aprins lumina in curte am vazut ca mergea aiurea si era apatic. In 15 minute eram deja la cabinet. Nu am camera acasa ca va aratam cat s-a subtiat de ieri pana azi. dar are o constitutie zdravana, ma bazez pe asta in ce priveste revenirea.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 05, 2011, 11:48:59 PM
il sculam, daca imi parea mai grav decat era, cum spuneam. Dar inca latra daca aude pasi afara, de ex, iar de baut bea apa. l-am luat de-a stat in pat cu mine noaptea trecuta si a dormit bine, l-am monitorizat iar daca starea lui se inrautatea, of cors ca trezeam tot orasul.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 05, 2011, 11:52:23 PM
Mai bine te alarmezi aiurea si e un lucru minor...decat sa iti spui ca poate nu e grav....of of
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 05, 2011, 11:54:36 PM
il sculam, daca imi parea mai grav decat era, cum spuneam.
Mai...lasa-l pe doctor sa spuna ca nu e grav...tu du-te sa-i faca tot ce trebuie sa ai un diagnostic corect....chiar daca e doar o indigestie Mama.... mie imi vine sa te bat
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:55:09 PM
Mai bine te alarmezi aiurea si e un lucru minor...decat sa iti spui ca poate nu e grav....of of
e ok, zic eu, de alarmat ma alarmez oricum, chiar daca se va dovedi ca e vb de ceva minor.. dar deciziile le iau in baza "gradului" de alarmare, daca pot spune asa. Acum e mai vioi decat ieri seara si banuiesc ca injectiile facute la vet au a face cu asta, dar tot nu mananca. Alt semn "bun", este ca iar a incercat de vreo 3 ori sa o "monteze" pe Briska
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 05, 2011, 11:57:19 PM
Cred ca la cabinet si-ar fi dat seama daca a fost otravit. Fie el si un asistent - ma gandesc (adica sper) ca nu e pus acolo degeaba. Dar cum spuneam, nu trebuie exclusa din ecuatie varianta asta pana la un rezultat concret al analizelor - care, ar fi bine sa vina cat mai repede.
Mai bine te alarmezi aiurea si e un lucru minor...decat sa iti spui ca poate nu e grav....of of
Da, aici ii dau dreptate lui Anouk. Eu cu Tara atunci am crezut ca moare, nefiind un caine bolnav - cred ca in 2010 am ajuns prima data la vet cu ea pentru o problema de sanatate. Cand am vazut-o in starea aia, am spus "gata, se duce". Dupa analize, a reiesit ca nu e dracu' chiar asa de negru si ca isi va reveni cu mancare de dieta si tratament. I-a facut si vet-ul cateva injectii iar a doua zi era deja alt caine.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
Mai...lasa-l pe doctor sa spuna ca nu e grav...tu du-te sa-i faca tot ce trebuie sa ai un diagnostic corect....chiar daca e doar o indigestie Mama.... mie imi vine sa te bat
:grin: multumesc, banuiesc ca nu e nevoie sa spun ca ma bucura atentia pe care o primeste Hun.. Deci, abia la 10 vine vet-ul (cel care-l vreau eu) si abia atunci intra in ecuatie ECO si un diagnostic clar. Daca Hun era mai nasol decat e, o sunam acasa, asta e clar.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 05, 2011, 11:58:52 PM
Mai bine te alarmezi aiurea si e un lucru minor...decat sa iti spui ca poate nu e grav....of of
crede-ma, ca daca nu ma alarmam nu mai mentionam asta in topic :) dar tocmai pt ca am intrat "in priza" am postat aseara, nu mai zic ca l-am tot barait si pe Dux cu telefonul.. Imi doresc in timp sa acumulez suficiente cunostinte sa pot intampina unele probleme singur, dar ECO si de-astea, nu tin de mine.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 06, 2011, 12:06:01 AM
Pe mine nu ma ingrijoreaza ca nu mananca Hun ci faptul ca e impleticit la mers...asta nu e bine deloc
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 12:35:03 AM
of manca-i-as trufa, asa slabit si apatic, tot frumos este
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 12:45:44 AM
m-am uitat pe geam in curte ca e galagie mare, Hun e "erect", urechile tzapene si latra la gard.. asta e super. going to za vet now.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 06, 2011, 12:49:45 AM
m-am uitat pe geam in curte ca e galagie mare, Hun e "erect", urechile tzapene si latra la gard.. asta e super. going to za vet now.
Nu esti inca la usa la care trebuie :lol:...go go go
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on December 06, 2011, 02:04:37 AM
acum am vazut si eu problema cu Hun, sper sa fie bine si sa ai parte de un veterinar cat de cat capabil! eu de la o vreme ii pipai pe ai mei in fiecare dimineata sa vad daca n-au vreo umflatura ceva, ma uit la culoarea urinei, si ce fel face scaunul, la cum mananca, si cat chef de joaca au zicea cineva, ca de otravit e mai greu sa-l otravesti...cel mai periculos fiind antigelul de masina, in rest de la alte substante cam greu sa mai pateasca ceva oricum..bafta multa cu el
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 06, 2011, 02:14:59 AM
zicea cineva, ca de otravit e mai greu sa-l otravesti...cel mai periculos fiind antigelul de masina, in rest de la alte substante cam greu sa mai pateasca ceva
:aha: Eu te asigur ca la fel de bine functioneaza si otrava de sobolani. Poate si ceva insecticid. Conteaza si cantitatea, dar daca cineva o face INTENTIONAT, se va asigura sa fie din belsug. Pe al meu otrava l-a transformat in decurs de vreo cateva ore, dintr-un caine de 3 ani in putere, de vreo 40 si ceva de kg, intr-o LEGUMA.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 02:45:50 AM
offf... nu-i a buna.. revin cu un update dupa cum va fi cazul.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 06, 2011, 02:49:17 AM
Eu zic sa se implice asa incat sa diagnosticheze cainele cat mai repede. Pe celalalt forum o tipa povestea cum a pierdut cainele datorita diagnosticului tardiv de babesioza. Pe mine ma innebuneste cand doctorii orbecaie si vindeca prin incercari....de multe ori timpul scurs este fatal cainelui. Nu vreau sa te ingrijorez mai mult decat esti... Trece-mi postul la off topic
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 03:11:06 AM
acum il monitorizez, i s-a facut un anume tratament iar daca nu apar anumite imbunatatiri, se trece la lucruri mai serioase, mult mai serioase.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: kangdanlin on December 06, 2011, 03:33:42 AM
pana la urma ce are?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 03:36:03 AM
sper ca diseara sa aflu si eu concret
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on December 06, 2011, 03:49:56 AM
Nasol tare ,sper sa se faca bine :cry:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 06, 2011, 04:03:27 AM
Imi pare rau pentru el, noi avem in tecuci un doctor veterinar foarte bun si il cunosc foarte bine, spune-mi ce stari are sa-i cer si lui o parere.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 05:56:25 AM
pana una alta vet-ul da pronosticuri dure dar aleg sa fiu optimist
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on December 06, 2011, 06:02:35 AM
Urat :cry: sper totusi sa se faca bine si cat mai repede
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tfygma on December 06, 2011, 06:49:03 AM
sper sa fie bine, tinem pumnii si asteptam vesti bune. multa sanatate!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:06:44 AM
multumim frumos pt urarile de bine, ramane ca timpul sa-mi arate ce si cum.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on December 06, 2011, 08:13:18 AM
nu toti veterinarii de la noi au mijloace de investigatii majoritatea merg pe ghicite sau au mai avut cazuri care se aseamana Cand nu stiu ce au spun ca a fost otravit ,dar nu prea ai cu ce sa otravesti un caine
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:14:01 AM
nu, la Hun nu e vb de otrava
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on December 06, 2011, 08:14:19 AM
cred ca are o indigestie
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:15:02 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 06, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
Dani, sper sa fie bine Hun! :goodness: Sa ne ti la curent...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:15:36 AM
sigur
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 06, 2011, 08:37:17 AM
furadanul e o substanta cu care poti otravi lejer un caine, e bine ca nu-i vorba de otrava, daca e o indigestie sigur isi va reveni. I-a mai facut vreo ceva.. injectii, perfuzii?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:43:21 AM
perfuzii si injectii dimineatza, urmeaza inca o sesiune de injectii
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 06, 2011, 10:51:29 AM
acum cum se mai simte Hun?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 11:02:32 AM
binisor.. vreau sa va spun ca mi-a dovedit din nou ca zace un Ben in el; A venit vet-ul sa facem niste tratament cu vitamine minerale etc.. astea dor, a trebuit sa-l tin bine si vreau sa zic ca s-a smucit si a dat sa ma muste si pe mine si pe vet, pe mine era sa ma apuce de cap initial apoi s-a repezit la mana si m-am bucurat sa vad ca desi e f slabit a avut suficienta fortza sa scape din "priza" mea si respectiv sa se "apere", sarind atat la mine cat si la vet. Mi-a aratat ca intr-adevar e un luptator si il iubesc / apreciez, cu atat mai mult.
Although hardly on his legs, Hun had enough strength to "escape" from my grip when the vet was giving him some vitamin shots and (kind of) attacked both me and the vet, almost biting my head initially and then going for my hands. he is a fighter indeed.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on December 06, 2011, 11:12:38 AM
lasa Dani ca se face bine, chiar ma bucur sa te aud ca e "binisor" :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
multumesc pt incurajare!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 06, 2011, 11:33:40 AM
furadanul e o substanta cu care poti otravi lejer un caine, e bine ca nu-i vorba de otrava, daca e o indigestie sigur isi va reveni. I-a mai facut vreo ceva.. injectii, perfuzii?
Furadanul este o substanta care nu se mai comercializeaza si este interzisa prin lege, s eface puscarie pentru detinatorii de astfel de substante.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 11:34:25 AM
baieti, nu e vb de otravire, in cazul lui Hun
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on December 06, 2011, 02:56:07 PM
Dani just read about the situation with Hun, and from my understanding it seems there is no poison involved, but indigestion. Speedy recovery for Hun, and i believe the bond between you both will now be greater.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 02:58:14 PM
Thank you Reg. if it were a poison case, by now I would be on TV news, if you know what I mean
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on December 06, 2011, 03:27:44 PM
Hun e mai vioi astazi, dupa tratamentul "soc" se aseara. Azi a mancat putin dimineatza si l-am auzit latrand dimineatza, semne ca si-a mai revenit.
Da-i sa manance ceea ce ii place...carne cruda sigur nu rezista...si se reface. Cand am cumparat-o pe Anouk a facut si ea indigestie...3 zile tratament...nu manca si nu bea apa...dar la carne cruda nu rezista :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 12:22:00 AM
nu cred ca e vb de indigestie, mai astept cateva zile pt ca vreau sa ma conving de una alta, apoi voi spune ce cred eu ca s-a intamplat
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 07, 2011, 12:24:03 AM
nu cred ca e vb de indigestie, mai astept cateva zile pt ca vreau sa ma conving de una alta, apoi voi spune ce cred eu ca s-a intamplat
ok...tu stii mai bine...in orice caz multa sanatate catelandrului
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 12:26:34 AM
Multumesc mult! Am o satisfactie aparte ca pe fundalul situatiei asteia mai neplacute, am vazut ce-i poate capul; faptul ca s-a repezit si la mine si la vet ma face sa-l iubesc si mai mult. Imi place ca atunci cand se vede "incoltit" sau impresurat in vreun fel sau altul, cainele sa "puna piciorul in prag", hai sa spun asa. Nu ma intereseaza instinctul de prada cat cel de aparare si lupta, iar Hun mi-a pus un zambet larg pe fatza in privinta asta.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Anouk on December 07, 2011, 12:31:48 AM
faptul ca s-a repezit si la mine si la vet ma face sa-l iubesc si mai mult. Imi place ca atunci cand se vede "incoltit" sau impresurat in vreun fel sau altul, cainele sa "puna piciorul in prag", hai sa spun asa. Nu ma intereseaza instinctul de prada cat cel de aparare si lupta, iar Hun mi-a pus un zambet larg pe fatza in privinta asta.
Asa si trebuie sa faca un caine de paza, sa se apere in cazul unui comportament pe care in capsorul lui il considera o agresiune. N-as vrea sa am in curte un caine care sta agatat de hainele infractorului si ala sa-i aplice lovituri in cap. Vreau infractorul mort...nu cainele ;) Ma gandesc ca si instinctul de prada este extrem de util...il face mai receptiv si vigilent, plus ca il determina sa se angajeze in lupta...zic si eu, n-am cunostinte de psihologie canina
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Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 12:38:32 AM
da, bine-nteles ca inst de prada isi are importanta lui! Eu doar spun ca vreau sa vad un inst de lupta bun, asta probabil pt ca nu prea am vazut cine stie ce in ultimii ani, in cainii de lucru..
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Post by: prototype on December 07, 2011, 08:52:35 AM
Imi pare rau pentru ce a patit baietanul asta. Refacere cat mai rapida. ;)
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Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 09:08:15 AM
Multumim frumos, azi e mai vioi, face tratament puternic.
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Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
Ii multumesc prin intermediul forumului dnului Becleanu, prieten cu Dux, care s-a ocupat de Hun incepand de ieri (Luni) seara si Hun acum e mult mai bine.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 11:46:26 PM
Cu uriasa bucurie va spun ca Hun se simte treptat din ce in ce mai bine. Mai dati-mi cateva zile si va voi spune cu certitudine care a fost problema, dar mai astept sa fiu sigur ca nu vorbesc aiurea.
Hun, azi dimineatza (cum se vede, s-a subtiat tare)
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Post by: Anouk on December 07, 2011, 11:55:38 PM
Ma bucur sa aud ca este mai bine...se vede pe mutrita lui ca e suferind...multa sanatate micutului. Ca s-a subtiat nu-i bai...pune la loc cu mancarica buna si adecvata starii de convalescenta
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Post by: zimbris on December 07, 2011, 11:57:17 PM
multumim! crede-ma ca primeste toata atentia in privinta fiecarui aspect al refacerii.
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Post by: Anouk on December 07, 2011, 11:59:10 PM
ati trecut si voi pe langa glont cu problema asta...
cam asa ceva..
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Post by: Valentino on December 08, 2011, 12:59:57 AM
Ma bucur sa aud ca se reface :rockon:
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Post by: brazil@brutus on December 08, 2011, 01:33:35 AM
oare nu a avut de suferit din cauza schimbarii climei?! intreb si eu, pentru ca din Arizona de la 30 grade in Romania la -10 grade totusi... e o diferenta.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 01:53:25 AM
Am luat si asta in considerare (Florida insa, nu Arizona) si cine stie, poate e vb si de asa ceva. Dar cum spuneam, ma voi pronunta peste o saptamana poate chiar doua.
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Post by: brazil@brutus on December 08, 2011, 02:49:58 AM
da, Florida, scuze. Ii uram multa sanatate negriciosului!
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Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 03:00:36 AM
multumim!
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Post by: guest on December 08, 2011, 03:51:03 AM
Dragul de el, ce mutrisoara are! :kiss:
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Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 05:16:59 AM
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Post by: kangdanlin on December 08, 2011, 07:59:44 AM
bravo, bine ca a scapat :rockon:
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Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 08:04:53 AM
Din ce vad, o sa dureze ceva timp sa-si revina total, dar in principiu suntem pe drumul bun. Mi-a incantat inimioara din nou cu o reactie destul de matura, tinand cont de faptul ca e ciutan, cand a venit sa ma viziteze un prieten. La vremea potrivita voi posta ceva clipuri, cum obisnuiesc, ca-s mai bune decat cuvintele. La fel si in cazul Briskai.
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Post by: guest on December 08, 2011, 08:35:24 AM
Hahaaa, cat e de dulce in prima poza! :bighug:
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Post by: Santos on December 08, 2011, 08:51:06 AM
vad ca sa refacut repede
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Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 08:52:46 AM
Believe me I didn't sleep lately until I saw some life back in his eyes
I believe it can kill you or the dog .Symptoms Hun had point to this but as i said we will never know. If he could only speak we would know more. The good thing is Hun is well now :goodnews:
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Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 11:53:28 AM
I think Salmonella infection Cred ca infectie cu Salmonella.
Foarte periculoasa salmonella, cu ani in urma mi-a murit un catel valoros din cauza salmonellei, dupa 9 zile de tratament i-a cedat ficatul :cry:(hrana uscata a fost vina, am facut test la un laborator si culmea era o mancare germana super-premiu), prin cate " belele " am trecut cu cainii , mi-au scos peri albi, dar nu pot trai fara ei(cateii )
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 08, 2011, 12:53:25 PM
ce varsta avea catelul? ce fel de tratament facea? in seara asta Briska n-a vrut sa manance.. daca "pica" si ea.. imi dau singur bataie...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on December 08, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
You have to keep them strong to fight it off. I like the bloody heart meat good for strenght
so it all comes down to the immune system staying strong, based on what you say
deci toate se rezuma la a-i tine imunitatea la inaltime, conform spuselor tale
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on December 08, 2011, 05:22:52 PM
Would you say that pork and chicken are risky in a diet, when we're talking about salmonella.. Organs from beef/lamb are best, and some guy here in australia feed kangaroo meat (high in protein) Positive that Hun will bulk up sooner than later, and get that mass happening..!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Johnsk9 on December 08, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
Would you say that pork and chicken are risky in a diet, when we're talking about salmonella.. Organs from beef/lamb are best, and some guy here in australia feed kangaroo meat (high in protein) Positive that Hun will bulk up sooner than later, and get that mass happening..!
Any Raw meat/Bone is at risk but Hun was still under stress from all the moving and a great climate change . It is still 75 - 85 degrees here in Florida. I do not know how cold it i there but 30 degree or cold I'll bet. So stress causes low immune system. It did not take much to make him or any dog or person sick under the same conditions. Now this is my guess of what went wrong with Hun i do not know for a fact. But it sure fits.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 12:38:15 AM
we get anywhere between 30 - 42, right now just over 32 in Constanta at night
acum in Constanta sunt intre 0 si 6 celsius, putin peste 0 in timpul noptii
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Post by: adelavet on December 09, 2011, 12:51:51 AM
You can test for presence of Salmonella either from food or from the dog faeces (it has to be a good lab because the test is a bit complex). Poti sa testezi prezenta Salmonella fie in mancarea fie in fecalele cainelui, dar doar intr-un laborator mai performant fiindca testul e mai complex.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 01:05:44 AM
Multumesc pt postare! Ieri si azi Briska nu a mancat :wall: asa a facut Hun initial.. astept sa vad in urmatoarele ore ce se intampla.. Hun e mult mai bine, mai vioi, cum am iesit afara la el m-a apucat de brat, ceea ce face cand vrea sa ne jucam (il las sa ma "muste" de maneca si sa traga, un fel de "tug")
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 10:24:11 AM
se vede / simte ca isi revine Hun, trebuie sa ies des in curte ca mai darama cate ceva, etc etc :grin: notworthy
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: bobo70 on December 09, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
Bine ca el este mai bine.... Briska cum se simte?
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Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 10:43:54 AM
se poarta binisor, dar nu vrea sa manance si a vomitat mult, dar ma ocup eu de ea, e mai inaintata in varsta decat Hun si deci are un sistem imunitar mai zdravan..
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Post by: Sorin on December 09, 2011, 11:31:02 AM
se poarta binisor, dar nu vrea sa manance si a vomitat mult, dar ma ocup eu de ea, e mai inaintata in varsta decat Hun si deci are un sistem imunitar mai zdravan..
Au mancat acelasi tip de hrana? Daca vomita...problem,repaos alimentar o zi dupa care usor cu supite legume putin pui, branza vaci, ou fiert tare, vitamine si minerale,recladirea sistemului imunitar.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 01:38:51 PM
Au mancat acelasi tip de hrana? Daca vomita...problem,repaos alimentar o zi dupa care usor cu supite legume putin pui, branza vaci, ou fiert tare, vitamine si minerale,recladirea sistemului imunitar.
multam pt sfaturi! da, i-am luat apa si i-am dat doar niste inimioare crude in seara asta si putin orez pus minerale / vitamine. Hun in schimb, mananca si nu se mai opreste :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on December 09, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Nu-l indopa, lasa-l usurel 2-3 zile, dupa care incet,incet se reface.In 10 zile e la fel cum a fost-tanc
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 09, 2011, 02:01:48 PM
aa.. pai nu, ca nu-l indop, el ar vrea mai mult dar nu-i dau, ca parca vad ca iar se da peste cap, incercam doar sa subliniez ca e pe drumul bun, isi revine treptat
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on December 10, 2011, 10:51:20 AM
Ma bucur ca isi revine si se pune pe picioare!
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
Boom! asa anticipez ca va arata Hun la maturitate
Iran von der Landskronerburg
(http://gsdonline.com/bszs/pictures/126649.jpg)
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Post by: guest on December 12, 2011, 12:13:38 PM
NICE!
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 12:20:14 PM
da, imi place capatzana in mod deosebit
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Post by: guest on December 12, 2011, 12:24:09 PM
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Post by: Sorin on December 12, 2011, 12:26:30 PM
Frumos , c-am toti erau smecheri pe timpurile alea.
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 12:29:02 PM
e discutabila treaba asta.. incep sa cred ca in jurul unor caini s-a "generat" o anumita reputatie, cand de fapt cainele nu era atat de "tare", am inceput sa cred asta analizand anumiti caini cehesti, dar nu e momentul sa intru in detalii
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 12, 2011, 12:31:24 PM
Si-a revenit bine hun?
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 12:32:44 PM
da, de la zi la zi se vad progrese
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Post by: Sorin on December 12, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
e discutabila treaba asta.. incep sa cred ca in jurul unor caini s-a "generat" o anumita reputatie, cand de fapt cainele nu era atat de "tare", am inceput sa cred asta analizand anumiti caini cehesti, dar nu e momentul sa intru in detalii
;) mergem inainte lasam in urma "pleva"
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
da sefu'
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Post by: fabius.m on December 12, 2011, 02:11:47 PM
bine ca si-a revenit, si Briska e ok?
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
da, face ceva fitze la mancare dar e ok, se 'calmeaza' si ea :grin:
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Post by: fabius.m on December 12, 2011, 02:19:00 PM
nu-mi aminti de fite la mancare :grin:
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Post by: zimbris on December 12, 2011, 02:26:29 PM
sper sa-i trag cateva poze profi lui Hun sapt asta, acum ca si-a mai revenit
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Post by: zimbris on December 14, 2011, 08:24:49 AM
John, just repeating myself again by saying this, but Hun mounted Briska at least 20 times today (and that's just while I was out with them) with his DDR winkey "full-on" and he kept barking "seriously" by the fence, especially when he heard those passing by. Are you sure you didn't breed Venus to a bull?? :cheesy:
John, cu riscul sa ma repet, Hun a "montat-o" pe Briska de cel putin 20 ori azi (20 doar ce-am vazut eu cand eram afara) cu instrumentul lui DDR scos "serios" din teaca iar cand n-o calarea latra gros langa gard. Esti sigur ca n-ai montat-o pe Venus cu un taur?? :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 14, 2011, 08:30:04 AM
:grin:
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Post by: zimbris on December 14, 2011, 08:34:26 AM
frate sa-l vezi cum s-a purtat azi incepand cu orele pranzului.. latrat gros mai tot timpul iar in "pauza" hop pe Briska, plus ca a mancat de-a rupt, la scurt timp dupa ce manca se ducea la vasul de mancare si dadea cu laba in el. Cred ca a vut o zi foarte buna :grin: Sa vezi cum o incaleca pe Briska zici ca s-a nascut cu doctorat in domeniu, o prinde "cleste" si ii ia lu nemtoaica vreo cateva secunde bune sa-l dea jos pe american de pe ea :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 14, 2011, 08:35:25 AM
Nu e prea mic?
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Post by: zimbris on December 14, 2011, 08:36:05 AM
da e ciutan inca, are 7 luni dar o calareste/cocoseaza pe Briska de mi-o face de show in cateva saptamani
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 14, 2011, 08:37:41 AM
da e ciutan inca, are 7 luni dar o calareste pe Briska de mi-o face de show in cateva saptamani
E bine ca detine si are ce-i trebuie. :laugh:
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Post by: zimbris on December 14, 2011, 08:39:14 AM
taur frate, taur... Parca totusi n-as crede ca se face cat Waldo (de exemplu) dar e ok si cat e acum, la 7 luni e deja mare. Cand voi trage cateva poze zilele astea si ma inserez si eu in cadru o sa se vada mai bine cam cat e acum.
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Post by: Santos on December 14, 2011, 08:54:08 AM
e suficient si cat este acum ,dar o sa mai creasca
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Post by: zimbris on December 14, 2011, 08:56:02 AM
da si eu zic la fel, inca se "duce"
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Post by: zimbris on December 18, 2011, 02:40:42 AM
Hun, acum 2 saptamani, apatic, odihnindu-se in patul meu
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Post by: Man Stopper on December 18, 2011, 03:51:16 PM
Good to see Hun back in action, he's looking tall and going to have a nice thick coat giving him a thick kind of neck to match the masculine head.. Should have the old school look about him in no time..!
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Post by: zimbris on December 18, 2011, 10:51:14 PM
yes he is tall and back to looking like a bull, eats A LOT, which I am excited about, it tells me he is back on a good track.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 03:23:20 AM
Spuneam ca ma voi pronunta cu siguranta cand voi stii sigur ce s-a intamplat. Spre bucuria mea, a fost vorba de o forma severa de Panosteita, Hun revenindu-si treptat din toate cele.. febra, slabire generala a organismului, schiopatat cand pe fatza cand pe spate. Toate si-au revenit exact in ordinea mentionata. Abia de vreo 2 zile a inceput sa se miste ca inainte, mai exact sa sara, se cocoatza pe cici pe colo (dar ii limitez astfel de miscari pt ca este mare si greu si, inca in crestere). In perioada respectiva am stat ore in sir pe net cautand informatii referitoare la toate simptomele lui Hun, plus ca am cerut ceva pareri de la John si Adelavet. De mancat mananca foarte bine si sunt multumit de cum arata. Este un caine care pare chiar apatic, cand il scot la plimbare. Asa era si Ben, foarte "soft" cand ieseam in oras, parca n-avea chef de nimic. Alta trasatura intalnita si la Ben, lui Hun nu-i place joaca cu alti caini, prefera aportul. Briska e foarte, foarte jucausa dar pana acum prea rar a reusit sa-l convinga pe Hun la o partida de "scandal". Acum ca lucrurile arata bine va multumesc din nou pt atentia aratata lui Hun, in cele cateva zile in care m-am panicat si eu.
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Post by: Sorin on December 21, 2011, 04:16:59 AM
Pai si de unde a luat virusul asta, e din atmosfera sau din mancare?
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Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 04:19:20 AM
Panosteita = dureri de crestere
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Post by: guest on December 21, 2011, 04:20:30 AM
Sorin, panosteita nu este un virus. Este inflamarea sistemului osos, poate fi datorata perioadei de crestere. Din ce stiu eu, se intalneste la rasele de talie mare si cele gigant, unde intalnim de cele mai multe ori o crestere exploziva.
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Post by: fabius.m on December 21, 2011, 04:20:44 AM
imi pare bine ca si-a revenit si multa sanatate in continuare. Ca talie era mai mare Ben ca el sau o sa fie mai mare decat Ben?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on December 21, 2011, 04:23:30 AM
Sorin, panosteita nu este un virus. Este inflamarea sistemului osos, poate fi datorata perioadei de crestere. Din ce stiu eu, se intalneste la rasele de talie mare si cele gigant, unde intalnim de cele mai multe ori o crestere exploziva.
E prima data cand aud de panosteita.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 04:23:49 AM
Era deja cat Ben cand l-am adus, acum e considerabil mai mare, chiar ma uitam dimineata, il comparam cu Briska, dupa ce si-a mai revenit cu sanatatea s-a "dus" tare. la "ochio-metru" i-as da 65 la greaban cel putin. Ben era "marisor".. mediu spre mare, tin minte ce mi-a crescut inima cand am auzit un pustan intr-un carucior, in fatza unei librarii, l-a vazut pe Ben si-a zis "mami, calu'" :grin: Multumim frumos pt urari!
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Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 04:24:30 AM
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Post by: Sorin on December 21, 2011, 04:26:04 AM
Cele mai bune ,ne compensam unul pe altul cu informatii. ;)
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Post by: Anouk on December 21, 2011, 06:14:56 AM
M-am chinuit si eu vreo cateva luni cu panosteita la catelusa pe care am avut-o...a fost tratata intensiv in puseul acut si apoi periodic cam odata pe luna pana pe la un an. Dupa perioada asta catelusa mea nu a mai fost bolnava niciodata si a murit la 14 ani de batranete.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 07:21:49 AM
14 ani, o varsta buna!
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Post by: Valentino on December 21, 2011, 08:27:08 AM
E bine ca stii despre ce a fost vorba ,la Hun ....Oricum e bine ca acum ca e un golan mare si sanatos :rockon:
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Post by: zimbris on December 21, 2011, 08:36:16 AM
e plin forumul asta de golani :grin:
:beer:
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Post by: Valentino on December 21, 2011, 08:40:19 AM
Lasa ca asa e bine :grin: :beer:
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Post by: zimbris on December 25, 2011, 08:26:27 AM
@ Thara hai ca m-ai inspirat cu pozele recente ale Tharei si am iesit in curte sa prind cateva cadre cu Hun, care de Craciun a primit o minge de cauciuc masiv. Marti sau Miercuri sper sa prindem cateva cadre profi, in parc
on Thursday I will get some professional photos done, he looks like a bull these days, he eats a lot!
He deserves some professional photo's done, beefing him up for the photo's doesn't sound like it's a problem..
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Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 09:48:26 PM
"beefing him up" :grin: that actually sounds so funny.. but no, I won't stuff him for that shoot, I'd rather he is light on his four :cool: Re recovered from that ansty stage and moves pretty fast now!
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Post by: zimbris on December 28, 2011, 01:35:30 AM
hai sa va arat cum aratau blugii mei dupa joaca de dimineata cu Hun
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Post by: kangdanlin on December 28, 2011, 04:44:52 AM
ca tine la tine e una..da deja te dezbraca gagiul :)) :laugh:
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Post by: zimbris on December 28, 2011, 07:45:51 AM
:grin:
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Post by: Man Stopper on December 29, 2011, 06:45:25 PM
As long as you only have to stitch up your denim, and not a section of your thigh..!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 30, 2011, 04:02:42 AM
Am tot zis ca azi e zi de foto - fotograful m-a rugat sa o amanam pe maine dimineata, n-a putut veni azi. Lui Hun i-am luat un tubular fresh ca m-a innebunit, nu are stare, isi gaseste ceva, o placa de lemn ceva pe care o latra, o care prin curte, o doade, o mai latra o juma de ora... etc.. :cheesy: :crazy:
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Post by: Sorin on December 30, 2011, 04:06:08 AM
Mai pune si tu o filmare cu el! :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 30, 2011, 04:08:24 AM
Stai sa treaca sarbatorile.. pt acum am vrut sa trag niste foto de final de an cu el si Briska; filmare ma gandeam sa bag mai prin primavara cand voi aduce pe cineva sa-l atate; cum spuneam nu vreau sa incep asta prea devreme. Dar eu zic ca o sa-ti placa ce vezi :lol: Dar in principiu voi face filmari regulat si cu el si cu Briska.. si orice caine imi pica in curte, in general.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Bogdan on December 30, 2011, 05:51:02 AM
Am tot zis ca azi e zi de foto - fotograful m-a rugat sa o amanam pe maine dimineata, n-a putut veni azi. Lui Hun i-am luat un tubular fresh ca m-a innebunit, nu are stare, isi gaseste ceva, o placa de lemn ceva pe care o latra, o care prin curte, o doade, o mai latra o juma de ora... etc.. :cheesy: :crazy:
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Post by: zimbris on December 30, 2011, 12:22:34 PM
:)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 04:02:39 AM
l-am cam chinuit pe fotograf, Hun ne-a tunat pe amandoi, era numai bun de pozat cand nu eram noi pe faza, motiv pt care nu toate pozele au iesit focusate / incadrate suficient de bine, dar sunt suficient de bune pt mine. Hun a mai pleostit o ureche pe ici pe colo.. Postez acum cateva si mai selectez din ele.
Cand ii bate vantul din fata ...ii stau si lui urechile drepte ;) Are niste parabolice nu-i de mirare ca le ridica greu
a fost o situatie ca in filme, ieri le-a avut tzapene dar n-a putut veni fotograful; azi, cand am ajuns acasa si fotograful se pregatea de plecare iar, bum, urechile tzapene, numa bun de pozat :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 05:39:12 AM
am tot zic ca Hun o sa fie un caine mai greoi, dar cand l-am vazut azi in parc cum alerga.. o sa vedeti pe viitor, in filmari :cheesy: :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 05:52:20 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on December 31, 2011, 06:43:41 AM
Frumos si Hun, ridica el urechile pana la urma, imi place ca are parul un pic mai lung! Reusite fotografiile.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on December 31, 2011, 07:06:24 AM
in sfarsit ai facut si fotografii mai reusite , sa vedem si noi cum arata. S-a facut frumos si o sa se mai faca. Urechile o sa le ridice pana la urma
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 07:08:42 AM
Urechea stanga e tzapana tot timpul, cealalta o ridica, iar o lasa, iar o ridica.. o sa le tina pe amandoua pe frecventa, nu-mi fac probleme. Da sefu', inca mai are de crescut, de mancat mananca de rupe, cum ziceam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on December 31, 2011, 03:26:00 PM
Nice to see Hun in differant aspects,both in stance,run and jumping back full of energy.. Really like some of the shots where on the side profile we can see Hun's muzzle strength, he deserves some quality pics taken..Also he has a very athletic working dogs body,which possibly in a couple of months during winter he can bulk up with a bit of extra fat in his diet.. Was wondering if John can post some pic or two of Hun's litter mates,some other Male would be good..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 10:32:59 PM
Nice to see Hun in differant aspects,both in stance,run and jumping back full of energy.. Really like some of the shots where on the side profile we can see Hun's muzzle strength, he deserves some quality pics taken..Also he has a very athletic working dogs body,which possibly in a couple of months during winter he can bulk up with a bit of extra fat in his diet.. Was wondering if John can post some pic or two of Hun's litter mates,some other Male would be good..
Hun is turning out to be very agile, his movement is really nice and fairly quick, considering his build. I thought he was going to be a heavy movement type dog but at the moment he is very athletic, when chasing the ball he is fast enough for a big dog. I am very glad with the type he shows, now my challenge is to think of the right females for him, to join John's efforts in saving the old blood. Breeding Briska to him throws a darn "nasty" line breeding, check this out: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/para.utkoma?fadir=732338&modir=698665 John is offline these days, his health condition doesn't allow him the freedom to be on the forum, he hardly had the strength to send his regards and Season's greetings a few days ago, let's pray he will gain some strength in the coming months. I believe at this point he has only two of the H pups, the other ones are in new homes by now.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on December 31, 2011, 10:40:05 PM
oh and yes, Hun got one powerful looking head! He's just about 8 months old in a couple of days, so I can only imagine the head strength in another 12 months from now :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: mariuspaun on January 01, 2012, 04:45:27 AM
Greu de facut fotografiile in miscare nu? Daca ai drum prin Bucuresti iti fac eu cateva cum trebuie...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on January 01, 2012, 04:53:40 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 01, 2012, 05:10:59 AM
Chiar te rog. Abea astept sa-l vad live pe Hun si mai ales sa vad cum se intelege cu Cassy a mea ;)
pai, el m-ar monta si pe mine daca nu-s atent, deci se va intelege foarte bine cu Cassy :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on January 01, 2012, 05:46:14 AM
Oooo, pai eu stiam ca femela se duce la mascul si nu invers! ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 01, 2012, 05:49:33 AM
:grin: ee.. glumeam si eu :) Hun nu va fi montat decat cu anumite femele, cartile sunt deja facute in sensul asta, lucrurile au fost puse pe hartie inca dinainte de a-l aduce in tara.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on January 01, 2012, 05:59:20 AM
:grin: ee.. glumeam si eu :) Hun nu va fi montat decat cu anumite femele, cartile sunt deja facute in sensul asta, lucrurile au fost puse pe hartie inca dinainte de a-l aduce in tara.
Ai planuri mari pentru el.. Intrebare - este ok daca il montezi cu o catea tot �neagra�?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 01, 2012, 06:11:04 AM
Auzisem ca daca se face aceasta incrucisare, ies catei cu ochii deschisi, cu blanita negru roscat si alte porcarii! De aceea te-am intrebat!
Lasa ca daca vor iesi astfel de catei, ai sa-i vezi si tu in forum si te convingi tu ce si cum.. ;) Dar in principiu, nu e nicio catea neagra care sa fie pe lista lui Hun. Asa cum spuneam, deja avem in vedere ce anume catele vor fi montate, eforturile (in mai multe sensuri) de a-l aduce pe Hun in tzara au avut scop foarte clar.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 01, 2012, 06:41:49 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on January 01, 2012, 05:16:51 PM
You gonna have some unique bloodlines not so common these days, especially with Filou there 3 times, even though not so close.. I would say Hun has that type of athletic body like Filou and he would suit nicely with Briska for structure and let's cross our fingers for character.. Man i'd like one sent here to Australia, if possible..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 01, 2012, 11:43:45 PM
I would say Hun has that type of athletic body like Filou and he would suit nicely with Briska for structure and let's cross our fingers for character..
Yes both Hun and Briska have that Filou look, if you ask me and oh yes, I am hoping for some fine temperaments..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
Discutiile despre Steve (care imi place enorm ca si temperament) m-au dus cu gandul la Ben si, am tot spus despre Hun ca imi aminteste de Ben in multe privinte. Hun implineste azi 8 luni. Mentionez ca Ben la varsta era deja "problema", de fapt la 7 luni am avut primul caz cu omu' muscat de Ben, trimis de medic la mine acasa sa verifice ca animalul e vaccinat. DAR, Ben a crescut si de mic in conditii care au avantajat mult dezvoltarea anumitor calitati. Chiar si asa, Hun este ceva mai copilaros pt acum, dar are o reactie care ma multumeste, fatza de strainii care intra in curte. In primavara voi face primele exercitii de agitatie si, respectiv, filmari. Eu caut un "Ben", este probabil scopul meu ascuns undeva in minte. Hun e inca ciutan, mai astept pana sa trag o linie mare. Nu ma indoiesc ca va fi un caine bun, de fapt deja ma multumeste, dar am standardele puse la loc batut in cuie si ne-schimbabil.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on January 03, 2012, 11:32:38 AM
Eu personal la rasa asta sunt foarte dur cu mine pe calitatile de lucru ale cainelui. Ma bucur ca esti multumit de el, poate sa zaca un ben in el cand ajunge la maturitate.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 11:35:30 AM
Detaliaza putin, imi plac discutiile de genul asta.
De la nici 2 luni mergea cu mine peste tot si am incurajat / laudat orice pornire cu iz de protectie; a crescut in apartament si a primit multa dragoste / afectiune de la toata familia, ceea ce i-a intarit sentimentul de apartinere de o "haita" si respectiv l-a determinat timpuriu sa fie protectiv de ce e "al lui". Hun a crescut intr-o curte cu fratiorii pana l-am adus eu aici.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on January 03, 2012, 12:22:22 PM
Cainii din generatia lui ben cred ca erau mai duri decat cei din ziua de azi.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 12:31:51 PM
fara nicio indoiala cu gandul la ei am facut topicul "old school" si vei vedea ca va avea viata lunga topicul respectiv
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on January 03, 2012, 12:48:17 PM
Cainii din generatia lui ben cred ca erau mai duri decat cei din ziua de azi.
Hm...tot vad multe persoane care afirma asta.
E un cliseu perpetuat, sau exista ceva argumente?
Nu mai sunt caini la fel de buni ca cei din anii '80 - '90 - nu stiu - ca nu prea mai sunt promovati in sport, deci lumea nu-i stie? Sunt mai multi proprietari interesati doar de paza si deci nu-si fac cunoscuti cainii, sau s-a pierdut intr-adevar dintr-un sange smecher? Daca da, cum se dovedeste asta?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
"cum se dovedeste asta"... din conversatiile cu una sau doua persoane de-aici din forum precum si cele cu alte persoane, in alt forum, am ajuns la concluzia ca nu poti "dovedi" omului (interesat cu adevarat) decat avand 2 exemplare pt a putea fi comparate; termenul de comparatie este intr-un final cel mai puternic, zic eu. Altfel spus, nu poti spune cu siguranta "cainele de azi nu mai e ca cel de ieri" DECAT daca ai avut cainele "de ieri" si stii exact ce vrei sa spui. Nu e vorba doar de C German aici, ci rasele utilitare, in general.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on January 03, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
"cum se dovedeste asta"... din conversatiile cu una sau doua persoane de-aici din forum precum si cele cu alte persoane, in alt forum, am ajuns la concluzia ca nu poti "dovedi" omului (interesat cu adevarat) decat avand 2 exemplare pt a putea fi comparate; termenul de comparatie este intr-un final cel mai puternic, zic eu. Altfel spus, nu poti spune cu siguranta "cainele de azi nu mai e ca cel de ieri" DECAT daca ai avut cainele "de ieri" si stii exact ce vrei sa spui. Nu e vorba doar de C German aici, ci rasele utilitare, in general.
Cine nu a facut echipa cu un ciobanesc german "mai vechi" nu poate face diferenta dintre :CG: :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 01:13:18 PM
Cine nu a facut echipa cu un ciobanesc german "mai vechi" nu poate face diferenta dintre :CG: :grin:
pai asta incercam si eu sa zic.. de aproape 3 ani vorbesc cu unii cu altii despre CG-ul vechi si cel nou si din moment ce multi din ei nu au avut CG cu ceva ani in urma, nu au cum sa cunoasca diferentele. pentru multi din ei, "cainele vechi" exista doar in mintea mea. Ahh.. unde e Ben, unde e Faleza a lui Nicu, sau Tarzan... Astia cam sunt pe cale de disparitie...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on January 03, 2012, 01:22:06 PM
Da, comparand doua exemplare ar fi cel mai usor de rezolvat. Poate ramane sa te increzi in cei care au detinut cu ani in urma CG si au in continuare exemplar din rasa asta. Pe de alta parte zic asa ca daca ai avut in trecut un caine cu nerv bun, el fiind primul din viata ta, te-a impersionat si e logic ca el va ramane intiparit in minte si va reprezenta un model pentru viitorii. Indiferent ce vei avea pe mana, vei raporta mereu la el; pentru ca el e primul, el ti-a deschis un orizont.
Nu stiu care era populatia de CG in trecut si care e acum. Tind sa cred ca daca e mai mare acum, uscaturile sunt si ele mai multe, e normal.
Nu stiu ce sa zic, eu doar incerc sa scotocesc in speranta ca-mi limpezesc unele chestii. Poate nu inteleg fenomenul. Dar cred ca se produc caini buni si acum.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on January 03, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
pai asta incercam si eu sa zic.. de aproape 3 ani vorbesc cu unii cu altii despre CG-ul vechi si cel nou si din moment ce multi din ei nu au avut CG cu ceva ani in urma, nu au cum sa cunoasca diferentele. pentru multi din ei, "cainele vechi" exista doar in mintea mea. Ahh.. unde e Ben, unde e Faleza a lui Nicu, sau Tarzan... Astia cam sunt pe cale de disparitie...
ai dreptate Dani, eu am avut-o pe Cora (cea de la In Memoriam), Ace, Linda in trecut si acum Bruno si Ace din linie veche! erau si sunt altfel
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 03, 2012, 01:37:59 PM
Pe de alta parte zic asa ca daca ai avut in trecut un caine cu nerv bun, el fiind primul din viata ta, te-a impersionat si e logic ca el va ramane intiparit in minte si va reprezenta un model pentru viitorii.
la vremea cand il aveam pe Ben nu oricine avea acces usor la echipament de inregistrare video.. cu o filmare rezolvam totul, apropos de asta, anume daca doar mi se parea mie ca Ben era mai "special" sau, chiar era "altceva" :)
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Dar cred ca se produc caini buni si acum.
da, sunt si acum caini buni, fara discutie, DAR nu se ridica la nivelul celor de care vorbim in topicul "old school"; da, astia mai recenti / moderni sunt ceva mai frumsei, cu mai mult drive DAR nu au instinctul de lupta pe care-l vedeai odinioara la un CG. Promit sa prind pe video orice mai prind "old school". In Hun vad ceva "old" dar e inca prea tanar ca sa-mi dau seama cat va fi din ce-mi doresc sa fie.
Cu un caine ca Ben sau Steve sau Bruno, Greif, iesi pe strada noaptea fara probleme, garantat. NU pot spune acelasi lucru despre CG-ul mai recent / modern.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 05, 2012, 01:27:37 AM
test functie foto telefon, slabutz dar in fine, nu mi-am luat telefon pt asta
da, de-aia l-am pozat si eu.. si imi imaginez ca va avea un cap puternic pe la 3 - 4 ani..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on January 05, 2012, 05:32:30 PM
Day by day he is looking more impressive, can see the formation of head/skull region slowly expanding..! The thick coat adds to the look IMO...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 05, 2012, 10:14:18 PM
Yeah, that's why I took more pictures, I like the way he develops that East type head. I can only imagine what he'll look like in another 2 years from now. Man, I tell you, I can't thank John enough for Hun..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 08, 2012, 01:36:19 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 08, 2012, 01:47:41 AM
multumim :beer: probabil de-aia mai impusc asa prin curte cate o poza un clip, imi plac enorm, sunt foarte frumosi amandoi. In primavara urmeaza sa trecem la lucruri mai serioase, atunci sa vezi foto si video :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: cristimate on January 08, 2012, 09:26:09 AM
frumos si "paros" cum imi plac mie... brava :D
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on January 08, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
:cheesy: Mai dar ce bine a crescut, are un corp foarte frumos si armonios, dar moaca este beton :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 08, 2012, 10:46:59 AM
da boss, s-a dezvoltat frumos, imi vine sa iau camera video dupa mine mai toata ziua, cand ies in curte si, da, are o moaca de Raj Capour (sau cum s-o scrie)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on January 08, 2012, 05:26:54 PM
Looking really good Dani,he is going to have a nice thick black coat and body with strong DDR head :rockon: Even better he is showing some guarding instincts, looking forward to Spring time when we see more extra pics and video of a more matured Hun...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 08, 2012, 10:30:42 PM
yes sir, videos will be posted once we start some serious work
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 14, 2012, 07:02:04 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on January 14, 2012, 07:09:46 AM
Arata foarte bine si Hun. Vad ca aveti vreme bunicica, aici la Cluj e viscol. :cheesy: Dintr-un cer cu soare si ceva nori, s-a facut negru-gri si ninge bine. :angry:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on January 14, 2012, 07:11:49 AM
Pare sa-si fi stabilizat in sfarsit antenele.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 14, 2012, 07:12:43 AM
Sigur nu e o bursita? Asa a avut si Waldo din cauza ca se trantea cu toata greutatea pe beton...
Foarte frumos se face golanul. ;)
nu, m-a anuntat John inca dinainte sa-l aduc aici, e figroma. Da, imi place si mie cum se dezvolta. Cand voi face ceva filmari (dar nu f curand) sa vezi ce bine se misca pt dimensiunile lui..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on January 14, 2012, 07:56:37 AM
avem zapada de cateva zile bune, am postat poze :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: steffy on February 03, 2012, 02:09:15 AM
abia poate tine ochii deschisi in a 4-a poza de vant si zapada :). la noi s-a mai potolit vremea. e doar ger. dar am inteles ca de maine incepe iar in toata tara ninsoare si viscol
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 03, 2012, 02:13:37 AM
eu daca am retinut bine, o sa ne lasa mai moale gerul
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 03, 2012, 02:13:58 AM
la noi s-a mai potolit vremea. e doar ger. dar am inteles ca de maine incepe iar in toata tara ninsoare si viscol
Asa e...va urma si ceva viscol si ger. La noi de o saptamana e soare si cer senin dar frig de crapa pietrele. Acum sunt -18...asa au fost si zilele trecute. Noaptea e si -20 sau si mai si. :shocked: Plus gheata pe strazi...rau de tot in unele locuri.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: bobo70 on February 03, 2012, 03:07:12 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on February 03, 2012, 09:19:32 AM
seamana bine Hun si Briska la fizic, din poze cam asa se vede.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 03, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
hmm.. nu neaparat.. poate la pozitionarea urechilor..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 03, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
The -20 cold weather has given Hun a descent experience of whats to come in the coming years of Constanta winters..! Time to give him those Beef bones with extra fat also...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 12:48:46 AM
The -20 cold weather has given Hun a descent experience of whats to come in the coming years of Constanta winters..! Time to give him those Beef bones with extra fat also...
Actually it's eggs he eats more these days, 3 maybe 4 consecutive days with one off. Yeah.. "proper" winter for a Florida pup, eh..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 12:58:10 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on February 04, 2012, 01:07:42 AM
El parca"i mai blanos decat briska nu? Ai fost pe marea inghetata? :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 01:12:34 AM
nu, ma multumesc sa o vad din poze :cheesy: e congel afara, in casa e mult mai placut :lol: Da Hun e mai blanos, pe Briska am deparazitat-o recent ca nu prea pune pe ea.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 04, 2012, 03:08:49 AM
Ce figuri au...foarte simpatici. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 03:11:40 AM
Imi place ca Hun desi creste, are exact moaca pe care o avea si la 4 luni cand l-am vazut prima data. Iar Briska desi se maturizeaza si ea, e o nebuna si nu se satura de jucat, nu sta normal sa o mangai e musai sa te apuce de mana. Abia astept sa incep antrenamentele cand se incalzeste vremea..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on February 04, 2012, 03:59:57 AM
Briska isi da BH-ul acum in primavara?!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 04:09:31 AM
BH, IPO.. am mai vb despre asta nu demult, daca nu ma insel; ma gandesc serios sa nu le parcurgem, am motivele mele.. dar voi vb despre asta la momentul potrivit.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on February 04, 2012, 05:11:05 AM
BH, IPO.. am mai vb despre asta nu demult, daca nu ma insel; ma gandesc serios sa nu le parcurgem, am motivele mele.. dar voi vb despre asta la momentul potrivit.
am inteles, ar fii pacat macar BH si IPO 1 - parerea mea!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 04, 2012, 05:15:19 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 04, 2012, 05:21:13 AM
am inteles, ar fii pacat macar BH si IPO 1 - parerea mea!
Isi au si alea importanta lor, depinde CE anume vrei sa faci cu cainele. Pt mine, "haraiala la gard" poate fi mai mult decat suficient ca sa hotarasc daca animalul meu e bun pt reproductie sau nu si, asa cum v-am obisnuit, documentez video si foto ce fac, ca doar sunt atatia care-ti flutura hartia cu IPO etc si nu vezi cainele.. dar in fine, asta e alta poveste; ai inteles ce vreau sa spun. Nu fac regula, dar cu unii din cainii mei nu voi face dresaj tip IPO.. ambitiile mele pot fi regasite in multe din postarile mele, in diferite topicuri.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on February 04, 2012, 06:28:53 AM
Isi au si alea importanta lor, depinde CE anume vrei sa faci cu cainele. Pt mine, "haraiala la gard" poate fi mai mult decat suficient ca sa hotarasc daca animalul meu e bun pt reproductie sau nu si, asa cum v-am obisnuit, documentez video si foto ce fac, ca doar sunt atatia care-ti flutura hartia cu IPO etc si nu vezi cainele.. dar in fine, asta e alta poveste; ai inteles ce vreau sa spun. Nu fac regula, dar cu unii din cainii mei nu voi face dresaj tip IPO.. ambitiile mele pot fi regasite in multe din postarile mele, in diferite topicuri.
am inteles!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on February 05, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
nu cred ca ai inteles prea multe dar timpul te va lamuri ...este plina lumea de caini cu titluri... diplome(maculatura) dar greu gasesti caini cu "esenta" de caine
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: bobo70 on February 05, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
nu cred ca ai inteles prea multe dar timpul te va lamuri ...este plina lumea de caini cu titluri... diplome(maculatura) dar greu gasesti caini cu "esenta" de caine
ar trebui sa crezi! Am inteles perfect.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 06, 2012, 04:41:12 AM
Edi... nu trebuie sa te ambalezi. E si normal ca ai inteles ce a zis Tessa - ca doar esti om intreg la minte. Dar pentru unele lucruri este nevoie de mai mult ca sa le intelegi pe deplin, nu doar la suprafata. Spun asta pentru ca si eu la randul meu am trecut prin asa ceva iar omul cat traieste, invata - asta daca e dispus. Acel "mai mult" inseamna de obicei experienta si informatie, acumulata in timp, exact asa cum spune si Tessa - timpul (impreuna cu experienta si informatiile dobandite) te vor lamuri cel mai bine cu privire la multe. Nu era o afirmatie malitioasa, sunt convinsa. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Schwarz on February 06, 2012, 05:14:40 AM
Edi... nu trebuie sa te ambalezi. E si normal ca ai inteles ce a zis Tessa - ca doar esti om intreg la minte. Dar pentru unele lucruri este nevoie de mai mult ca sa le intelegi pe deplin, nu doar la suprafata. Spun asta pentru ca si eu la randul meu am trecut prin asa ceva iar omul cat traieste, invata - asta daca e dispus. Acel "mai mult" inseamna de obicei experienta si informatie, acumulata in timp, exact asa cum spune si Tessa - timpul (impreuna cu experienta si informatiile dobandite) te vor lamuri cel mai bine cu privire la multe. Nu era o afirmatie malitioasa, sunt convinsa. :)
Draga mea, nu m-am ambalat deloc! NOVICE scrie pe mine, asta e clar. Sunt la inceput, am multe de invatat.. stiu asta! Am inteles. :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 06, 2012, 05:23:00 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 06, 2012, 05:59:59 AM
:grin: bai, ce faceti aici? :cheesy: e mai simplu asa: "tessa, ce-ai vrut sa zici prin asta? ce anume n-am inteles? la ce te referi cu "esenta?" asa cum a procedat si Bobo, de fapt..
keep it simple! ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on February 06, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
Sincer nu VREAU sa intru in conflict cu nimeni ! Cunosc CIOBANESCUL GERMAN din 1988 (sunt impatimit al rasei) am frecvent ciobanesti germani la cursuri (dresaj) si stiu ce vorbesc...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 06, 2012, 01:25:43 PM
Sincer nu VREAU sa intru in conflict cu nimeni ! Cunosc CIOBANESCUL GERMAN din 1988 (sunt impatimit al rasei) am frecvent ciobanesti germani la cursuri (dresaj) si stiu ce vorbesc...
Da boss dar uite, intreaba omu' la ce te-ai referit cand spuneai de "esenta de caine". Baga acolo un raspuns.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on February 06, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
"tessa, ce-ai vrut sa zici prin asta? ce anume n-am inteles? la ce te referi cu "esenta?" "Cand nu treci prin foc nu stii cu ce te arzi" Ciobanescul german este in esenta caine de PROTECTIE SI PAZA. cu diverse utilitati datorita calitatilor deosebite... Majoritatea oamenilor achizitioneaza ciobanesti germani pentru paza bunurilor...foarte putini pentru competitii sportive. Pentru lamuriri interesati-va: cati c.g. se nasc(achizitioneaza) in 5 ani si cati parcurg dresajul BH, IPO, ETC. Astept raspunsurile voastre cu cifre nu vorbe. Politica nu face casa cu adevarul...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 06, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
"tessa, ce-ai vrut sa zici prin asta? ce anume n-am inteles? la ce te referi cu "esenta?" "Cand nu treci prin foc nu stii cu ce te arzi" Ciobanescul german este in esenta caine de PROTECTIE SI PAZA. cu diverse utilitati datorita calitatilor deosebite... Majoritatea oamenilor achizitioneaza ciobanesti germani pentru paza bunurilor...foarte putini pentru competitii sportive. Pentru lamuriri interesati-va...................
ok, m-am uitat in urma sa inteleg mai bine de ce ai zis asta, eu am inteles la ce te referi.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on February 06, 2012, 02:03:16 PM
Esti inteligent.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 06, 2012, 02:04:31 PM
.............. Pentru lamuriri interesati-va: cati c.g. se nasc(achizitioneaza) in 5 ani si cati parcurg dresajul BH, IPO, ETC. Astept raspunsurile voastre cu cifre nu vorbe. Politica nu face casa cu adevarul...
Nu tine sefu... :grin: :grin: :grin: Ca argumentare prin analogie, putem sa spunem si asa...: Oamenii sunt in primul rand animale, apoi sunt animale superioare/inteligente, traiesc in diverse forme de organizare, cu o ierarhie satbilita prin reguli definite destul de clar, cu drept de "monta" si reproductie universal (si cred ca asta este o mare greseala, ar trebui introduse niste reguli mai stricte aici :grin: :grin: :grin:). Este real ceea ce spun?... Atunci..., cati copii nascuti in viitorii 5 ani vor parcurge ciclul clasic de Gradinita, Scoala primara, Liceu, Facultate, Masterat, Doctorat, etc. ? Oricum destul de multi, in marea lor majoritate in alergare dupa diplome asa cum se intampla si in cazul examenelor sustinute de caini, dar fara astea nu ar putea fi organizata viata pe diferite competente si ierarhii sociale. Multi ajung sa faca diverse scoli si marea lor majoritate nu le pot folosi niciodata in viata reala pentru ca nu au habar de nimic, dar scoala nu poate sa dispara ca regula generala, doar pentru ca vor scapa printre cei buni si foarte multi idioti cu diploma. Deci asa cum am spus absenta regulilor nu inseamna nici mai bine si nici mai bun... Ia inchipuitiva ca numai in viitorii 5 ani oamenii nu vor mai parcurge deloc aceste cicluri de socializare si invatamant. Oare cum ar arata lumea? Un caine bun, un caine cu substanta cum ai spus, nu este impiedicat de calitatile sale native sa obtina un drept de monta simplu, cu un amarat de IPO1 si doua expozitii. Ba din contra, va reusi sa faca asta mult mai usor decat un caine fara caracter, instabil, fricos, etc. In sfarsit fiecare face asa cum crede..., doar traim intr-o tara libera...., cred.... :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 06, 2012, 11:30:43 PM
nope, deloc :cool: Foarte departe nu va ajunge dialogul asta pt ca eu inteleg ce vrea sa spuna tessa, doar ca nu va reusi sa articuleze suficient de bine ce are in minte, doar daca reuseste sa calatoreasca inapoi in timp si sa aduca un subiect sau doi, cu care s-ar raspunde la multe intrebari, inclusiv unele puse de tine. Altfel spus.. asta nu se va intampla.. :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on February 07, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
cred ca toti cainii de reproductie trebuie sa aiba expozitii de frumusete ,examene de lucru si displazia facuta Daca ignoram aspectele acestea si tinem cont doar cum fac paza o sa avem alte probleme peste cateva generatii
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 07, 2012, 07:46:22 AM
cred ca toti cainii de reproductie trebuie sa aiba expozitii de frumusete ,examene de lucru si displazia facuta Daca ignoram aspectele acestea si tinem cont doar cum fac paza o sa avem alte probleme peste cateva generatii
te referi si la masculi si la femele? Examenul de displazie fara discutie, expozitiile.. nu am de ales, examenul de lucru - ma pot lipsi, in anumite situatii.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Santos on February 07, 2012, 08:15:05 AM
ma refer si la masculi si la femele dar mai ales la masculi
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 07, 2012, 08:40:18 AM
cred ca toti cainii de reproductie trebuie sa aiba expozitii de frumusete ,examene de lucru si displazia facuta Daca ignoram aspectele acestea si tinem cont doar cum fac paza o sa avem alte probleme peste cateva generatii
fara discutie.astea sunt conditiile ideale.dar in momentul de fata lucrurile trebuie privite altfel din punctul nostru de vedere.cand spun asta ma refer la canisa Zimbris.acum avem nevoie de material genetic pentru a avea pe ce lucra.nu ne permitem sa cheltuim anumite sume(si nu sunt mici)pentru examene de lucru.vom face testele de displazie fara discutie.putem analiza caracterul unui caine si in baza unui test de aptitudini(vezi modelul SVR2000). Pana acum ne-am conformat.si ce am rezolvat.am pierdut cel putin 2500 de euro(carmen,axa,india)nu era mai bine sa ne rezumam doar la cerintele minime de reproductie existente in Romania?(test displazie,2 expo).cu banii pe care i-am pierdut puteam cumpara cel putin 3 pui.adica genitori cu care acum faceam diferite ,,combinatii'',toate in folosul rasei. fara indoiala ca in timp,dupa ce ne construim baza genetica vom face si examene de lucru.asta mai mult pentru brand,fiindca din punct de vedere al analizei caracterului am capacitatea de a analiza un caine ,nu am nevoie de arbitrajul vreunui arbitru de lucru. deocamdata avem nevoie de bani pentru a ne mai aduce caini.de abia il asteptam pe John. ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 12:02:34 AM
paznicii mei nu mai e cine stie ce zapada dar mult polei
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: steffy on February 17, 2012, 12:21:13 AM
:laugh: se uita pe gaura cheiei ce tareeee
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
da, prin "gaura" aia se uita ei la teecatori pe strada :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 01:34:28 AM
A venit dux in vizita la noi si i-am spus sa intre in curte cu miscari dubioase iar spre final sa-i loveasca cu un ziar prin gard. Briska innebuneste cand e vb de contact direct cu un strain, este un reprezentant tipic al temperamentului DDR iar Hun e inca crud dar potentialul e la locul lui. Inca e tinerel si are tendinta sa fie putin prietenos dar daca l-ai provocat dispare "prietenia" aia de urgenta. Nu a fost o filmare gandita prea bine dar alta data ii voi pune sa stea separat ca sa nu mai existe tensiune intre ei. In cu totul alta ordine de idei, aud ca deja vin atacuri asupra lui Hun ca si caine. La vremea potrivita voi posta si test displazie etc etc, ca sa nu ne mai muste de dorsali unii si altii.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAz5C7Z3tBA
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on February 17, 2012, 01:56:53 AM
Se prezinta bine amandoi tazi .Este timp si pt testul de displazie ... ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 01:58:45 AM
Se prezinta bine amandoi tazi .Este timp si pt testul de displazie ... ;)
toate la timpul lor
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on February 17, 2012, 01:59:50 AM
Corect :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 17, 2012, 04:00:59 AM
In prima poza imi place cel mai mult cum a iesit Briska, iar Hun in cea de-a treia. Legat de testul de displazie normal ca este vreme, inca nici nu are 1 an!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 04:05:51 AM
Legat de testul de displazie normal ca este vreme, inca nici nu are 1 an!
e o poveste mai lunga, una stupida si comica in acelasi timp; dar comica e sigur pt ca e ramai uluit cand auzi ce se discuta prin tara, in baza "auzitelor". Aceeasi persoana care vb aiurea de Hun, a vb aiurea si de Greif SR, pe care de fapt nici nu l-a vazut personal, dar vb cu atata convingere ca ai crede ca l-a vazut. Vor fi intotdeauna si astfel de oameni in peisaj, ata ete.. Sunt unii care se simt mai luati in seama si, care-si intretin unele relatii, vorbind aiurea de cainii altora, pt ca automat cainii din curtea personala devin mai buni. Cum ziceam, timpul va arata ce si cum.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 17, 2012, 04:13:23 AM
Cei care barfesc pe asemenea subiecte ar face mai bine sa se uite la cainii din ograda lor...asta ca sa nu zic mai multe. Dar stii cum e cu vulpea care nu ajunge la struguri, spune ca sunt acri. :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 04:14:56 AM
Cei care barfesc pe asemenea subiecte ar face mai bine sa se uite la cainii din ograda lor...asta ca sa nu zic mai multe. :lol:
In fine, nu vreau sa lungim subiectul asta :) Abia astept la vara sa incepem ceva antrenamente serioase, ce vezi in video mai sus a fost mai degraba curiozitate.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 17, 2012, 04:18:32 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
aa.. deci iti plac aproape toate :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 17, 2012, 08:21:28 AM
Da, primele trei sunt foarte reusite, l-ai surprins foarte bine! Abia astept sa indrept obiectivul spre el! :ihi: :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 08:22:58 AM
notworthy
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 09:10:14 AM
Been waiting to see some footage of Hun behind the gates, and i like what i see and am sure John enjoyed it also. But as you said he still is very young and needs to mature another half year or so. Shame that Briska interrupted Hun in this aggitation session, but other than that he showed very good body language and had a clear head, when approached up close.. Like the pics of them both in the European snow you guys got at the moment..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 09:17:46 AM
Been waiting to see some footage of Hun behind the gates, and i like what i see and am sure John enjoyed it also. But as you said he still is very young and needs to mature another half year or so. Shame that Briska interrupted Hun in this aggitation session, but other than that he showed very good body language and had a clear head, when approached up close.. Like the pics of them both in the European snow you guys got at the moment..
that's good observation on your part, Reg. Yes it's definitely early to start some serious work with Hun as he ain't ripe enough yet but as you noted, he's got the right potential.. which I will gladly monitor in the coming months.. I assure you, you will see some fine footage of this pup, he has loads of fight in him waiting to mature and come out. I made a clear note of John's statement when he said to me the DDR blood matures slowly and I will patiently wait to see what Hun brings to the table.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 09:27:57 AM
I believe you are patient enough to wait and let Hun grow,too have a strong solid confident foundation to work with. Do you think it's a better idea to have Hun separate from Briska, to build individual confidence ?? Like to know what Santos / Dux or other forum members, would think of what i am suggesting in regards to having dogs separate, especially when they are worked in a aggitation session..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
The "agitator" in the video is dux, he really liked Hun's attitude, hit him in the face with the newspaper Hun just wanted to fight back all the way, did not back off for one moment.. you will see better footage in the coming months. As I was saying I didn't plan this well enough as I should have separated them before deciding to have them agitated, it was a last minute idea to agitate them and get it on video, to see what they respond like. I will surely post videos when I start working them properly, individually. What's sure is that Hun is very young still and it would be wrong to rush into guard elements right now, he is simply too raw. I can see it in his eyes, he is not sure what's going on until he is provoked and he responds accordingly, but I want him to get to the point or age where he wants to bring the fight to the agitator before actually being provoked.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 09:50:40 AM
I agree to what your saying that it's more of a confidence builder, you are focusing on at the moment.. It's better to have a dog with a clear head, especially when the push turns into a fight...!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 09:54:49 AM
I agree to what your saying that it's more of a confidence builder, you are focusing on at the moment.. It's better to have a dog with a clear head, especially when the push turns into a fight...!
Precisely! what's the point in building, if the foundation is not clear and solid, to start with.. Having done this short agitation session this morning only reminds me I need to have patience to see this through correctly. I guess the tendency nowadays is to start things sooner so one can see the true potential of the pup / dog. But when you rush into things you open the door to un-repairable mistakes I think.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on February 17, 2012, 10:16:19 AM
Arata bine cu haina de iarna pe el, pare mai masiv. Deja au aparut sageti spre temperamentul lui? Astia de zic naspa de el cred ca l-au avut la dresaj si i-a dezamagit. In orice caz, Ciobanescul German daca nu e bicolor, displazic, nu stie sa fuga in ring, prietenos cu oricine, e atipic rasei. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
Arata bine cu haina de iarna pe el, pare mai masiv. Deja au aparut sageti spre temperamentul lui? Astia de zic naspa de el cred ca l-au avut la dresaj si i-a dezamagit.
nu mai.. sunt unii prin toata tzara care au tinut legatura intre ei si daca unul a tras un vant cu privire la un caine anume, chiar daca e verificat sau nu vantul, devine stire oficiala, lucru neverificat dar "real" pt ei. In cazul lui Hun vantul a plecat de la un pasionat al cainilor de show iar vantul nu are nicio treaba cu temperamentul cainelui, la fel ca si pasionatul de show, daca ma gandesc mai bine. Dar in virtutea concurentei, unii pasionati ai lucrului accepta vantul oficial, cum spuneam. Ata ete, nu-i problema, asta ne e tzara.
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In orice caz, Ciobanescul German daca nu e bicolor, displazic, nu stie sa fuga in ring, prietenos cu oricine, e atipic rasei. :)
:grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
It's way harder to build things up generally speaking, and on the other hand so easy to destroy making it irreversible.. At the end of the day i feel that if a dog has it in them naturally, they wouldn't need too may sessions at all.. Whether it's for family/property protection or Security patrols.. LESS IS MORE...!!!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 10:34:44 AM
I totally agree! Dux's mother has had a dog that had no training whatsoever (died a while ago) and was a true, real guard dog. If the dog has the package in the genes, gold is to come out eventually and few are the obstacles on the way. Ben was beaten at the age of four months by a neighbor of mine, that had no affect on his temperament whatsoever in fact, only 2 or 3 months after that happened, I had to deal with the first case of a man Ben bit, sent to our door by the doctor so the dog can be checked for Rabies shots, hehe.. In Hun's case, my desire is that he takes a challenge seriously, I don't want him to turn into yet another sport type dog. So far he shows good fight but is still childish in his thinking, definitely needs more time to mature. TIME, that's what's needed.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
I think we should be happy if our dog's are naturally good guard dogs, and especially the one's that don't go over the top in the middle of the night barking, to upset our friendly neighbour's.. As for those looking for a Security patrol dog well thats another story again, some TIME, patience and unfortunately plenty of LUCK is needed to have Working German Shepherd as a crime fighting dog...!!!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 10:56:15 AM
As for those looking for a Security patrol dog well thats another story again, some TIME, patience and unfortunately plenty of LUCK is needed to have Working German Shepherd as a crime fighting dog...!!!
Well i believe it's easier to obtain that Security patrol dog because, even a less good dog can still perform well on the street as long as the handler is right there holding the leash. There are many dogs that are really good service dogs but not that good when left alone.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
Yes they are very good with handler to make offender run from fear, but if they are approached in a harsh manner then kicked and punched hard, most will fall and desert handler IMO.. If that sleeve or suit is not visible or smelt they probally won't have the desire to bite through prey drive.. As for GSD K9 alone in yard, i would say 90 out of 100 would run to the furthest corner in reality these days.. As a kid i used to test many GSD and Rottie's in factory yards and houses, by starting to climb the fence.. And many would run backward's barking from a distance, but there was a Grey Sable GSD which was the first time i had seen as a 12 year old.. This Sable GSD was not the type to run backward's he was big and a serious bloody dog...!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 17, 2012, 11:42:47 AM
Yes they are very good with handler to make offender run from fear, but if they are approached in a harsh manner then kicked and punched hard, most will fall and desert handler IMO.. If that sleeve or suit is not visible or smelt they probally won't have the desire to bite through prey drive..
not necessarily or not always I would say.. many a less good dog will be really good if the handler is on sight. One particular dog comes to mind right now but out of respect for big names in the field, I will not mention that name. The dog is presented as a real dog but I tested the dog myself and was not that brave when alone. However, if the handler was on sight, he would kill, literally cut through.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 17, 2012, 12:01:15 PM
Sure there are the odd one here and there, but generally speaking from what we have here in this part of the world is nothing to brag about.. In Europe am sure it's a much better chance to view such dog's for civil work...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: tessa on February 18, 2012, 05:46:01 AM
Hun looks super in the close up, captures a really impressive expression..
yes dux fell in love with him on sight, when he noted that head
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Seen the video of him again and believe he has plenty of potential..
oh yes, just give us some time and you will see some good action videos
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 19, 2012, 01:08:03 AM
Am iesit azi la plimbare in cartier dupa o pauza destul de mare pt ca a fost vremea cum a fost. ce bucurie pe capul lui Hun.. si, la fel cum se intampla cu Axa, se holba lumea la el de parca a vazut lupu'n pielea goala, cum spunem noi romanii. Aspectul "frumusete" nu cantareste atat de mult pt mine, raportat la altele, dar spre satisfactia mea Hun chiar este un caine frumos.
Just mentioning that I took Hun out for a walk after a long break due to the bad weather and he really enjoyed it. To my satisfaction people stared at him as if they saw an actual wolf :lol:
O poza cu Hun pe asfaltul "liber", no more snow :grin:
nu, e jucaus. Briska in schimb a inceput sa cam "fixeze" maidanezi, inainte si ea era foarte jucausa dar vad ca se mai schimba. Nu ma intereseaza sa fie "artagosi" su cainii, ci sa fie dornici sa pape oameni :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on February 19, 2012, 01:20:36 PM
Nu ma intereseaza sa fie "artagosi" su cainii, ci sa fie dornici sa pape oameni
Si pe steve l-am dezvatat sa nu se mai arunce la ei, nici mie nu-mi place sa se ia de maidanezi, te-am intrebat pentru ca majoritatea au porniri agresive cu alti caini.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: zimbris on February 19, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
Si pe steve l-am dezvatat sa nu se mai arunce la ei, nici mie nu-mi place sa se ia de maidanezi, te-am intrebat pentru ca majoritatea au porniri agresive cu alti caini.
stiu si caini de show care-s criminali cu alti caini.. dar tot trompete cu oamenii. Faptul ca e agresiv cu cainii pt mine nu inseamna cine stie ce, atata timp cat e echilibrat, deci nici la cealalta extrema.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 19, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
Tara a fost de la o varsta frageda foarte rautacioasa cu alti caini dar niciodata nu m-am deranjat prea mult sa o temperez la capitolul asta. Nici nu am incurajat-o, pentru ca nu vad nici o distractie ori satisfactie in bataile si incaierarile dintre caini. Nu pot spune ca asta am vizat de la bun inceput insa intr-un final am concluzionat ca fiind vorba de un caine pe care-l iau cu mine peste tot aproape, m-a interesat sa stie cu ce se mananca "viata" nu doar in ceea ce priveste oamenii si, ca nu toti cainii dau din coada, iar la nevoie sa stie sa isi foloseasca dintii asa cum trebuie. Sincera sa fiu, nu am regretat niciodata "decizia" asta, din contra, in unele situatii (majoritatea au implicat maidanezi care isi aparau cu seriozitate teritoriul) m-am bucurat ca nu aveam o mamaliga de caine care sa manance bataie in stil mare. Si-a exersat "tehnicile" vreme indelungata pe cainii din parcul in care o scoteam regulat. :lol:
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Post by: Sorin on February 19, 2012, 01:30:53 PM
Nici eu nu suport incaierarile, am vrut sa spun c-am toti masculii au porniri agresivi cu alti caini , taz al lui fabius deja la varsta asta cauta scandal cu cainii
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Post by: guest on February 19, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
Eu la incaierarile dintre femele la care am asistat am vazut ca sunt mai "sangeroase" de felul lor, masculii parca se potolesc ceva mai repede.
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Post by: zimbris on February 19, 2012, 01:35:45 PM
Ben cand asmutea careva cainele spre noi, facea urat la proprietar nu la caine. Revenind la Hun, pt acum e f jucaus, e devreme sa spun ce fel de caine va fi la maturitate.
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Post by: Sorin on February 19, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
Depinde si de masculi, sunt care cedeaza mai repede, dar sunt unii care nu-i mai poti desparte, eu am asistat la o lupta intre ai mei ,de abia i-am despartit,se luase d ela o femela, daca nu-i auzeam la timp unul din ei murea.
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Post by: guest on February 19, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Depinde si de masculi, sunt care cedeaza mai repede, dar sunt unii care nu-i mai poti desparte, eu am asistat la o lupta intre ai mei ,de abia i-am despartit,se luase d ela o femela, daca nu-i auzeam la timp unul din ei murea.
Asa este, depinde si de masculi. Am asistat si eu la incaierari dure intre caini. Dar cele mai nasoale care le-am vazut - si-am vazut cateva - au implicat femele. Inclusiv a mea, s-a batut atat de urat cu femela alaturi de care a copilarit incat niciodata nu s-au mai "impacat". Amandoua caractere foarte dominante si nici una nu a cedat niciodata. Cineva ne-a recomandat sa le tot lasam sa se bata pana una cedeaza, dar la cat de urat se bateau nu s-ar fi oprit pana nu murea vreuna. Intr-un final am reusit sa le tinem in acelasi loc - ca eu si proprietara sa putem povesti ( :grin: ), insa niciodata amandoua libere. Erau gata sa se manance la cel mai mic gest.
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Post by: guest on February 19, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
Ben cand asmutea careva cainele spre noi, facea urat la proprietar nu la caine.
Tara a sarit la un individ care isi lovea cainele pe strada. Catelul a inceput sa scheaune - tipul il caftea binisor - iar Tara si-a iesit parca din minti inainte sa apuc eu sa-l sudui pe individ. Am observat clar cum a sarit la om, nu avea nici o treaba cu catelul in cauza. Dar era in lesa.
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Post by: hora on February 20, 2012, 12:12:08 AM
In adolescenta am avut doi caini, un mascul cg de la o unitate militara si o femela, de rasa comuna ca sa zic asa, de talia unui cg, neagra cu o pata alba pe piept si urechile semi-erecte. Femela se aciuase la noi, fiind parasita de stapani, care se mutasera la bloc. Masculul cg (Tarzan) era nenorocire pentru ceilalti masculi. Ii tara literalmente pe jos, indiferent de talie. Niciodata insa fara sa fie provocat. La oameni insa, era cam pasiv. Cateaua (Negruta), exact pe dos. Odata a intrat un cersetor in curte. Femela era plecata (in spatele caselor de pe strada mea sunt gradini nesfarsite care pe vremea aceea nu aveau garduri, cainii mei se plimbau in voie). Trazan incepe sa latre la omul care tocmai intrase in curte fara permisiunea nimanui. Un latrat gros, puternic, dar fara sa se miste de pe pragul casei, doar ridicat in sezut (urmaream scena din casa, pe geam). Omul face vreo doi pasi si se opreste din inaintat, studiind probabil situatia, daca sa se retraga sau nu. In clipa urmatoare aud un tropait puternic, parca se scutura pamantul! Venea Negruta din fundul gradinii, val-vartej. De obicei cand fugea catre poarta scotea niste sunete ciudate, un fel de marait gros, venit parca din strafundul fiintei ei, te infiora de-a binelea. Apoi se auzea izbitura in poarta de metal. Asa s-a intamplat si de data asta. Abia apucase ala sa iasa din curte, o vazuse venind ca turbata. In situatii din astea isi intetea si Tarzan latratul, dar atat. Ciudat e ca dupa asemena reprize (care nu erau putine), cateaua il certa serios! Cand ieseam cu ei pe deal, prin padure, erau imbatabil. Erau deja celebri in zona. Javrele se retrageau in curti (ce ma enerveaza potaile care-si petrec timpul pe strada, luandu-se de trecatori, ca la cel mai mic semn de riposta sa se refugieze in curte pe sub poarta si ajunsi acolo capata brusc un curaj specific lasilor!) iar oamenii ma atentionau sa nu le dau drumul din lesa. Au fost niste caini pe cinste, se completau perfect. Imi aduc aminte ca la asa-zisa revolutie am plecat singur in padure sa caut brad de Craciun. Maica-mea,speriata sa nu patesc ceva. I-am zis ca atata timp cat ii am pe Tarzan si pe Negruta cu mine nu mi-e frica de nimeni. Erau ca niste ingeri pazitori. As putea sa scriu un roman cu peripetiile pin care am trecut impreuna cu ei. Pot sa spun ca niciun om nu mi-a fost atat de loial ca acesti doi caini.
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Post by: zimbris on February 21, 2012, 03:53:58 AM
asta-i negru in ceru' gurii, se face rau :cheesy: :grin:
am vazut un caine scapat de jigodie cu fierul inrosit Daca nu vedeam nu credeam
si cum s-ar explica un caz de-asta?
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Post by: guest on February 21, 2012, 09:05:43 AM
Cu siguranta este o metoda care da roade, de aceea o si folosesc toti medicii veterinari... :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: S-ar explica prin durerea uriasa pricinuita cainelui, in asa masura incat fuge si boala din el... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: zimbris on February 24, 2012, 12:26:30 AM
O zi frumoasa la CT azi, asa ca la primele ore eram in parc la alergat, am facut o filmare cu telefonul dar n-a iesit nicio branza, asa ca postez doar o poza
Da, inca sunt relativ moi si se "onduleaza" cand alearga dar de cateva saptamani bune le tine drept pe-amandoua. Se face marisor, iar se holba lumea la el dimineata de parca aveam o hiena in lesa...
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Post by: fabius.m on February 24, 2012, 01:07:02 AM
are un cap frumos si expresiv Hun
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Post by: prototype on February 25, 2012, 02:58:16 AM
Ce bine seamana cu maica-sa in poza asta!
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Post by: zimbris on February 25, 2012, 06:18:25 AM
Stai ca m-ai facut curios, cu care poza a lui Venus? Eu incerc sa-mi dau seama cu cine seamana mai mult.
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Post by: prototype on February 25, 2012, 08:21:01 AM
Cu asta. (http://east-german-shepherds.com/assets/images/venus.jpg)
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Post by: fabius.m on February 25, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
ce frumoasa-i cateaua :)
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Post by: zimbris on February 25, 2012, 01:25:47 PM
hmm.. eu mai astept cateva luni pana sa ma pronunt dar da, pana in prezent parca seamana mai mult cu maica-sa
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Post by: zimbris on February 28, 2012, 09:12:36 AM
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Post by: Sorin on March 01, 2012, 01:21:40 AM
Cate luni are acum?
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Post by: zimbris on March 01, 2012, 01:35:28 AM
pe 2 Martie face 10 luni
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Post by: Sorin on March 01, 2012, 04:01:09 AM
Cred ca abia astepti sa-l bagi putin in priza. :)
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Post by: Santos on March 01, 2012, 06:30:46 AM
arata bine pentru varsta lui
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Post by: zimbris on March 01, 2012, 07:21:15 AM
Da, arata f bine si se misca f bine tinand cont de dimensiunile lui dar nu exageram. Azi mi-a rupt o geaca buna, cand ne jucam cu aportul cateodata daca nu i-l dau, se repede si ma apuca de brat sau de zona stomacului, numai azi m-a lasat cu geaca faultata si cu o vanataie pe triceps. Cand se incalzeste vremea voi face o serie de filmari si se va vedea mai bine ce si cum, o sa rog pe cineva sa filmeze. E inca ciutan, e foarte copilaros cand iesim in oras, cand vin caini agresivi spre noi el da din coada si vrea sa se joace cu un comportament de catelus :grin:
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Post by: fabius.m on March 01, 2012, 04:09:39 PM
face misto de ei :grin:
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Post by: zimbris on March 02, 2012, 12:05:27 AM
:grin: ee.. nu chiar, e pur si simplu ciutan, se poarta exact ca un catel de 4 luni, cam asa.. Dar, daca a vazut aportul in mana mea se rupe filmul, nu mai vede nici un caine.
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 02, 2012, 10:37:47 AM
Looks like Hun is loving life in Romania..!!
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Post by: zimbris on March 02, 2012, 10:52:03 AM
he is indeed ;)
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Post by: zimbris on March 06, 2012, 04:49:26 AM
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Post by: Sorin on March 07, 2012, 06:23:11 AM
Ati scapat de zapada, noi mai avem destula. tazi
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Post by: zimbris on March 07, 2012, 06:28:00 AM
:lol: am scapat de zapada de cateva zile bune ;)
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Post by: RogerW on March 07, 2012, 06:29:28 AM
That boy is going to be a beast when he's grown! Very nice, Dani!
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Post by: zimbris on March 07, 2012, 06:34:59 AM
Thanks for the positive comment Roger! Well he is still very childish when it comes to interacting with other dogs but other than that he is a fine dog, balanced when I take him out into the busy downtown. He seems to dislike dogs altogether and prefers to not "chat" with them :grin: Every once in a while he shows very serious, fight-like attitude, but very scarcely and only with big dogs. he does that when we pass by this property where there is a huge, nasty Central Asia Shepherd that has a very serious, low pitch, scary bark. He shows VERY good drive and VERY promising social aggression. I am using the term "promising" as he is still young.
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 07, 2012, 10:17:16 AM
So looks like we have to wait for summer for those serious sessions.. The last clip with Briska is really something differant, thats an original act (movie like)
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Post by: zimbris on March 07, 2012, 10:26:11 AM
yeah.. it's simply too early to get into something more serious with Hun, I like his reaction so far but still, I can read him well and see that he is raw still.
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 07, 2012, 10:31:16 AM
Its good that you have the patience in letting Hun mature, and am sure you will find the right time to get to the next step..
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Post by: zimbris on March 07, 2012, 10:34:08 AM
I guess I learned from observing Briska and her maturing rhythm if I can put it like that. The DDR dog is indeed different, most dogs we had so far showed somewhat more mature attitude earlier in life but yes, I can see Hun has what he needs to be what I want him to be.
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Post by: zimbris on March 11, 2012, 02:12:18 AM
L-am masurat acum pe Hun la greaban, aproape 69 cm
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Post by: guest on March 11, 2012, 02:13:08 AM
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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Post by: Sorin on March 11, 2012, 02:56:15 AM
Asa are si steve, e destul de mare la varsta lui, si cred ca mai creste.
Am crezut ca spui de Steve ca mai creste :grin: Dupa varsta de 10 luni pe care o are deja, cine stie ce nu va mai creste dar oricum, pt mine un 68-69 este mai mult decat suficient. Prefer un caine robust dar nu neaparat inalt.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 11, 2012, 06:19:33 AM
The Sire of Hun looks like a tall type of Male, and the Dam has very good fore leg on her.. Hun nearly at the 70 cm mark..
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Post by: zimbris on March 11, 2012, 07:39:09 AM
I'm not desperate for height, but rather thickness I guess. He is tall enough, in another 2 months or so, from now, we will start somewhat more serious exercises, for now I take him out with Briska to run for about 15, maybe 20 minutes (ball play).
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 11, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
Thickness all the way thats for sure.. In regards to the exercise; would you not be concerned about any hip/elbow issues..!!
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Post by: zimbris on March 11, 2012, 10:43:53 AM
In regards to the exercise; would you not be concerned about any hip/elbow issues..!!
nope, it's just basic runs for the ball, no jumps etc.. John made it clear to me that I need to watch out for that plus I can clearly see Hun is the "heavy movement" type of dog or structure, although he is very agile and sharp but I am not overdoing things, no sir! It's more of a playful situation rather than "hard at work", he is still raw so I am being careful.
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Post by: zimbris on March 22, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
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Post by: guest on March 22, 2012, 08:49:55 AM
Super tare! Expresivi, ca si de obicei!
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Post by: fabius.m on March 22, 2012, 08:54:18 AM
ce figuri :)
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Post by: zimbris on March 22, 2012, 08:54:33 AM
..si putina haraiala la gard si la geam :lol: Imi place despre Hun ca treptat are o reactie din ce in ce mai matura fatza de strain si nu e musai ca strainul sa faca vreo miscare ca el sa se agite, l-am pus pe om sa stea initial calm apoi sa intinda mana spre el iar la final sa faca miscari de agitatie si zgomot. Briska vroia sa intre in casa prin geam :grin: Am inchis-o pt ca se infigea in Hun. Pana voi veni cu ceva filmari de antrenamente voi posta "haraieli" :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZsat4I6fI
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Post by: fabius.m on March 22, 2012, 02:57:16 PM
arata si coltii putin, asta e ok, inca e puiandru, dar imi place
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Post by: zimbris on March 23, 2012, 01:21:01 AM
Da, isi arata coltii dar pt mine asta nu e un "must do sau must have". Ben nu arata coltii ci doar o privire de caine "turbat" si respira de parca urma sa explodeze, dar nu-si arata coltii. Nu universalizez spunand ca "trebuie sa arate colti", asta e poezie de-aia din folclor. Vad trompete care arata coltii de spui ca mama mama.. dar sunt trompete. Da, e inca ciutan, atat in joaca cu alti caini cat si in reactie la straini, dar se coace vazand cu ochii :cool:
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Post by: zimbris on March 23, 2012, 08:26:13 AM
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Post by: fabius.m on March 23, 2012, 08:47:04 AM
simpatic :)
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Post by: Santos on March 23, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
vad ca a inceput sa fie si el barbat
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Post by: steffy on March 23, 2012, 10:24:05 PM
are o privire de-ti inmoaie genunchii :love:
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 24, 2012, 10:27:56 AM
That heads getting broader in width on Hun, you must be enjoying the growth phase.. Like the new video, can see that Briska like to interupt Hun's momentum..
Capul lui Hun se ingroasa/lateste, cred ca-ti place faza asta de dezvoltare.. Imi place noul clip, vad ca Briskai ii place sa-i strice treaba lui Hun..
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Post by: zimbris on March 24, 2012, 10:35:55 AM
That's a fine profile picture you got there ;) Oh yes, I enjoy watching Hun turning into what his genes bring to the table and he still has way to go so I can only anticipate a great, powerful DDR head in my backyard, rock'n'roll! :rockon:
Yeah, Briska sort of spoils the moment, she gets intense and goes for Hun since she can't get any closer to the agitator. Hun is more clear headed in that respect.
Ai o poza de profil frumoasa ;) Da, imi place sa vad cum Hun se transforma in ceea ce ii este destinat genetic si inca mai are de crescut asa ca anticipez un cap tipic DDR, puternic. Da, Briska se sucareste ca nu ajunge la atentator si se infige in Hun, in sesnul asta Hun are o minte mai limpede.
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Post by: Man Stopper on March 24, 2012, 08:55:58 PM
Thanks Dani for your liking of profile pic, actually still working on capturing that Held or Bero type of look... Do you think it wont be too long before Hun is boss and wont put up with Briska annoying him..
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Post by: zimbris on March 24, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
Well he is already kind of responding to her in the same "language". She is bossy most of the time but when he has a toy or a bone that changes things around.
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Post by: zimbris on March 24, 2012, 10:31:03 PM
Hun trece din nou printr-un episod de Pano dar de data asta e mai bine, se retrage in cusca si sta mai mult acolo, se vede pe fatza lui ca il doare dar mananca. Un episod de-asta dureaza intre o saptamana, doua si se intampla cam odata la 6 saptamani, asa cu aproximatie. Din ce citesc online vad ca va dura pana la un an jumate sau doi.
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Post by: fabius.m on March 24, 2012, 10:38:06 PM
asta de la ce e?
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Post by: zimbris on March 24, 2012, 11:35:07 PM
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Post by: fabius.m on March 25, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
aaa, ar fi trebuit sa stiu, si Taz are problemele astea, o perioada chiar a schiopatat si a trebuit sa-i fac tratament cu niste pastile care se numesc Carprieve
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Post by: guest on March 25, 2012, 01:28:00 AM
Hun trece din nou printr-un episod de Pano dar de data asta e mai bine, se retrage in cusca si sta mai mult acolo, se vede pe fatza lui ca il doare dar mananca. Un episod de-asta dureaza intre o saptamana, doua si se intampla cam odata la 6 saptamani, asa cu aproximatie. Din ce citesc online vad ca va dura pana la un an jumate sau doi.
sa speram ca dupa 1 an nu vei mai avea problema asta cu el
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Post by: Anouk on March 25, 2012, 11:37:08 AM
Am avut problema asta cu cealalta catelusa ... dupa un an si un pic i-a trecut... Spre batranete au inceput iar durerile. Cu toate astea a trait 14 ani fericita si iubita
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Post by: guest on March 25, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
Am avut problema asta cu cealalta catelusa ... dupa un an si un pic i-a trecut... Spre batranete au inceput iar durerile. Cu toate astea a trait 14 ani fericita si iubita
Da, tin minte ca ai mai mentionat lucrul asta prin forum. 14 ani este o varsta respectabila. De regula la batranete majoritatea dezvolta afectiuni osteoarticulare.
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Post by: zimbris on March 26, 2012, 04:20:33 AM
sa speram ca dupa 1 an nu vei mai avea problema asta cu el
am inteles ca apar si dispar pana la un an si jumatate, poate doi. Inteleg ca o simpla aspirina poate fi de ajutor. Eu nu-i dau nimic, il las in zilele respective sa se odihneasca, are o moaca mai trista care comunica durere si doarme des, se retrage in cusca.
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Post by: tessa on March 26, 2012, 05:08:54 AM
cu timpul dispar dar totusi ceva pastilute ... calmeaza durerea
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Post by: guest on March 26, 2012, 05:26:00 AM
Si Rocky a avut "dureri de crestere". El a fost un caine foarte mare, care s-a dezvoltat si foarte repede. Totusi, la el nu retin sa fi fost ceva chiar asa serios. Mai schiopata pe 'ici, pe 'colo.
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Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2012, 03:15:24 AM
Zi frumoasa de primavara la Constanta. Hun si Briska sunt in "off mode"
brandu' e la vedere indiferent de cata blana are :cool:
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Post by: fabius.m on April 09, 2012, 07:52:52 AM
mm daca te referi la Taz, nu prea are el cine stie ce fizic acum, se vede ca-i kinder, pe la 1 an jumate o sa vedem ce si cum..
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Post by: zimbris on April 09, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
da, la Taz ma refeream si da, mai incolo cand mai pune pe el o sa poti spune mai multe :cool:
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Post by: RogerW on April 09, 2012, 06:13:43 PM
Ha! Having a fun time, aren't they? :)
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Post by: zimbris on April 09, 2012, 10:14:32 PM
If doing nothing but rest is fun, oh yes, definitely lol Hun is going through another Pano episode so he's not doing much anyhow. I will be having a worker in the house for a few days so he will come back to life again, I will probably get that on video just for fun sake.
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Post by: Sorin on April 14, 2012, 06:30:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIKWpx_6hJg
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Post by: zimbris on April 14, 2012, 06:43:39 AM
Hun saracu' a dormit dupa ce-ati plecat voi, Pano il tine de mai bine de 2 saptamani in cuie si oboseste repede.
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Post by: Man Stopper on April 15, 2012, 09:04:27 AM
Hun is displaying positive response and looking more solid.. Good to see that Briska is not breaking his rythym...
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Post by: zimbris on April 15, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
Hun is undergoing another Pano episode and he is not himself 100% in this video. But still, he is young and not ripe enough in my view, which is why I am still not rushing into starting protection / civil training. Yeah this time around Briska didn't break his rhythm :grin:
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 06:12:33 AM
Am umblat in filmari sa selectez ceva secvente pt un material si am editat o bucatica cu Hun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFcnB50IMns
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Post by: guest on April 19, 2012, 06:23:05 AM
Ce simpatici erau negriciosii. :)
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 06:26:36 AM
Black n tan-ul de langa Hun e cel pt care optam initial
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Post by: fabius.m on April 19, 2012, 06:29:15 AM
frumos b&t -ul ala
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 06:34:39 AM
da, cum am intrat in curte la ei, ala mi-a sarit in ochi imediat
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 06:44:47 AM
Inca un clipuletz. Cel mai grosut este tot in Florida la un politist, m-as bucura sa-l pot vizita cand ma mai duc la John. Pe Hun cred ca-l puteti identifica, are un fizic distinctiv, as zice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A1HD8fbgoQ
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Post by: guest on April 19, 2012, 06:47:06 AM
Ce minunati sunt toti! Foarte simpatica haita.
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 06:57:30 AM
Da, a fost o placere sa ma misc si eu pe-acolo printre ei..
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 07:09:26 AM
Hai inca un clipuletz.. Hun la pascut :grin: Uitati-va spre final, ce fizic are catelul care se opreste in cadru, un mini Held Ritterberg sau Bodo Rosenzweig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCVU8F5SfCE
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 07:24:13 AM
inca unul..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKGoPSf4aCI
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Post by: Man Stopper on April 19, 2012, 07:49:58 AM
The 3rd video clip which you mention of the solid pup is impressive, he does stand out and seems slightly shorter than the rest.. And yeah has that Held or Bodo appearance. What made you change your mind about the B&T pup you initially considered Dani ?
Masculul robust e impresionant din al 3lea clip de care zici, iese intr-adevar in evidenta si pare a fi putin mai scund decat ceilalti.. si da, are aspectul ala de Bodo sau Held.. Ce te-a facut sa te razgandesti in privinta black n tanului la care te-ai gandit initial?
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Post by: Sorin on April 19, 2012, 08:11:49 AM
Black & tan ala e super frumos, si o constitutie robusta asa.
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 08:15:26 AM
The 3rd video clip which you mention of the solid pup is impressive, he does stand out and seems slightly shorter than the rest.. And yeah has that Held or Bodo appearance. What made you change your mind about the B&T pup you initially considered Dani ?
Well you know how you sometimes see a pup and you immediately think "that's the one" but then you stand back and observe and think otherwise. Plus, John saw something in Hun since he was a tiny pup that he knew I would like.. I guess he saw the natural aggression that Fran displays. Those were actually his words, that Hun reminds him of Fran. And boy Fran is one unfriendly bitch I tell you..
Pai stii cum de obicei vezi un catel si imediat te gandesti "asta este" dar apoi mai astepti si observi si te razgandesti. In plus, John mi-a spus ca a vazut ceva mai deosebit la Hun de cand era ciutan, ceva ce mi-ar place mie.. cred ca e vb de agresivitatea naturala pe care a vazut-o si la Fran. De fapt chiar asta mi-a spus, ca Hun ii aminteste de Fran. Iar Fran e o catea intr-adevar f neprietenoasa cu strainii..
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Post by: Santos on April 19, 2012, 08:15:53 AM
si mie imi place ala si pe temperament cred ca este bun
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Post by: zimbris on April 19, 2012, 08:18:32 AM
Clearly see some development happening in the fore chest area of Hun, and once his diet is back in order he will explode in body mass...
yeah, i am actually monitoring him in order to see him gaining some mass again, will update the topic with pictures accordingly
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Post by: zimbris on April 28, 2012, 10:32:30 PM
peste cateva zile Hun implineste un an de viata dar abia azi a ridicat piciorul pt prima data la pom sa-si dea cu semnatura :grin: O poza facuta cu telefonul la plimbare dimineata devreme
in a few days Hun will turn one year old but only today he lifted his leg to mark his territory :grin: just a quick shot taken on this early morning's walk
I believe Hun and his litter mates won't actually be the really big type (which I for one don't mind) as far as I can remember that's what John told me. Still, Hun is pretty big and I think at nearly one year of age (next Wednesday) he now starts putting on mass. Just changed his diet recently as I wasn't too happy with the previous brand (super premium German brand but still, not that good in the end).
Hun nu va fi tipul de caine f mare (ceea ce nu ma deranjeaza deloc) cel putin asa tin minte ca mi-a spus John. Chiar si asa, Hun e destul de mare iar la aproape un an dezile (Miercurea viitoare) zic eu ca incepe sa ia in volum. I-am schimbat recent si dieta pt ca n-am fost asa multumit de cea anterioara (hrana super premium germana dar nu chiar atat de buna in final).
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: steffy on April 29, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
la multi ani Hun!!!sa cresti mare si sanatos!
nici noi nu-i mai dam Bosh lui Tod ca refuza sa manance.l-am trecut iar pe RC
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Post by: zimbris on April 29, 2012, 11:27:15 PM
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Post by: zimbris on May 02, 2012, 08:32:52 PM
isn't that Venus with them
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Post by: zimbris on May 03, 2012, 11:45:26 PM
Ieri Hun (aka Hunulache sau Hunulos) a implinit 1 an. Sa traiesti Hunulosu'! :beer: Acum ca nu vor mai aparea transformari majore in structura as spune ca va avea fizicul lui Filou, pe care de altfel e si consangvinizat, ceva mai angluat, desi parintii nu au o asemenea structura. De fapt din tot cuibul el era mai angulat, daca va uitati in clipurile postate de mine de asta toamna cred ca se poate vedea asta. Nu este neaparat ceea ce se poate numi un caine "mare", desi cei care il vad pe strada spun ca e masiv. La un an de zile Hun e un caine echilibrat si, ca si Briska, se coace mai greu, e mai copilaros in anumite privinte. Pe strada, in aglomeratie, pe transportul in comun etc, e un caine foarte calm si dezinvolt. In curand vom incepe antrenamentele de "fitness", mai ales ca s-a incalzit f tare si marea ne asteapta.
Yesterday Hun (aka Hunulos or Hunulache) turned one year old. Happy birthday Hun! At this point in time as there will be no major changes, I would say he will have the looks of Filou (line bred on Filou as well). Hun is not necesarily what we would call a really big dog, although when out for walks, people would turn and say he is massive. At this stage he is a very balanced nerved dog, out on the streets, on the buss, in crowdy places, pretty much anywhere, he is relaxed and outgoing, if I can put it like that. Like Briska, he seems to "ripe" slower in some aspects and I guess that's the DDR type. Soon we will start the fitness training, especially now that the sun is out and the sea is waiting for us.
Cu Hun inca nu ca e mai greoi, astept sa i se mai intareasca oasele dar pt inceput il duc la mare.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on May 10, 2012, 06:48:17 AM
acolo o sa mai puna muschi pe el
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Post by: ben on May 10, 2012, 06:50:01 AM
Da, asta e si ideea :) conditie fizica si ceva masa Ahh.. si am descoperit si motivul urechilor, saracul de el avea o forma de otita si ma oftic ca vet-ul mi-a spus ca nu are nimic, in urma cu ceva saptamani. Incep sa cred ca virgula ca si crescator sau proprietar de caine, daca nu ai ceva cunostinte proprii si mergi strict pe mana vet-ului, o cam dai in bara din cand in cand (a nu se intelege ca fac anti-reclama mersului la vet, vorbind la general!)
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Post by: steffy on May 10, 2012, 11:00:26 PM
Da, asta e si ideea :) conditie fizica si ceva masa Ahh.. si am descoperit si motivul urechilor, saracul de el avea o forma de otita si ma oftic ca vet-ul mi-a spus ca nu are nimic, in urma cu ceva saptamani. Incep sa cred ca virgula ca si crescator sau proprietar de caine, daca nu ai ceva cunostinte proprii si mergi strict pe mana vet-ului, o cam dai in bara din cand in cand (a nu se intelege ca fac anti-reclama mersului la vet, vorbind la general!)
saracutzul de el...speram sa se faca bine repede,acum ca ai descoperit. clar trebuie sa ai niste cunostinte cand mergi la doctor in general,nu numai la vet. eu pun 1000 de intrebari la orice medic si daca nu-mi argumenteaza cum trebuie, inclin sa nu-i ascult sfaturile si sa mai cer si alte pareri
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Post by: fabius.m on May 11, 2012, 12:43:24 AM
bine ca ai aflat din timp, eu stiu un ciobanesc german care in tinerete arata superb, e un caine old school foarte gros si a facut otita la o ureche si apoi la cealalta, acum le are pe amandoua blegi.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 11, 2012, 01:11:58 AM
ee.. eu am patit cu Ben asa, pana la varsta de 2 ani a tot facut otite si tinea urechile blegi. Cred ca in cazul lui era vorba de curent.. ca dupa ce l-am dus la curte nu a mai avut deloc probleme cu urechile.
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Post by: ben on May 18, 2012, 10:30:08 AM
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Post by: Man Stopper on May 18, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
Hun is filling out and has nice thick coat, not so common with DDR type, they seem to have very short fine coat.. Wanted to ask if allowing your dogs to play with other people would effect there attitude towards protection training..? Or maybe this is your neighbour who your dogs are familiar with, similar to a family member..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 19, 2012, 01:55:04 AM
Wanted to ask if allowing your dogs to play with other people would effect there attitude towards protection training..? Or maybe this is your neighbor who your dogs are familiar with, similar to a family member..
I totally understand your concern. This is a close friend who looks after them when I am away. He told me they have a "problem", they are man aggressive :lol: They go loud even in the middle of the night when they see people passing by the front gate, even though the distance from that to the kennel run is pretty long. No worries, I will post videos and you will see their colors, if I may put it like that. Swimming and some early stage aggression (short) sessions up next for Hun.
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Post by: ben on May 21, 2012, 02:39:19 PM
ahh.. e intuneric si nu am putut face poze bune, o sa-i fac zilele astea niste cadre sa vedeti ce moaca are dupa ce-l alerg cateva minute bune :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on May 21, 2012, 03:17:14 PM
da, l-am vazut! Si asta fiind primul lui interval ;)
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Post by: ben on May 21, 2012, 03:18:32 PM
ee.. n-a fost cine stie ce, dar oricum Hun nu e atat de pus pe scandal cu caini, nu ii baga in seama cand il scot in oras. Abia daca il mai convinge briska la o sedinta de joaca.. daca am un obiect in mana gata, se rupe filmul, nu mai vede si nu mai aude nimic.
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Post by: guest on May 21, 2012, 08:32:56 PM
Ce frumos e! :kiss:
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Post by: ben on May 22, 2012, 03:44:11 AM
Azi am inceput antrenamentele de fitness :grin: Am filmat cu telefonul ca sa-i puteti vedea comportamentul/progresele in ce priveste intratul in mare si ulterior mersul in apa mai adanca. O sa unesc clipurile sa fac unul singur, pt acum postez pozele.
Today we started the fitness training (swimming). I filmed his progress by the phone, I will post the video later, here's some pictures taken with the same phone.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 22, 2012, 05:09:11 AM
Am pus clipurile in ordine, se poate vedea la inceput cum se opreste cand realizeaza ca e in apa :grin: apoi treptat prinde curaj si ii arunc bidonasul in larg. La ultima "tura" a bagat capul cu totul in apa dupa el si atunci am zis ca-i de-ajuns pt prima sedinta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMbt5HCCMiw
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Post by: guest on May 22, 2012, 05:13:40 AM
Foarte fain "pushtanul", iar piesa merge de minune cu filmarea. :)
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Post by: ben on May 22, 2012, 05:14:00 AM
..am uitat sa mentionez, pe la jumatatea clipului am intrat in apa pt ca a ratat momentul cand am aruncat bidonasul si n-am avut de ales, am intrat si eu vreo 15 m in apa cat sa vada el de la distanta bidonasul.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 22, 2012, 05:15:23 AM
Foarte fain "pushtanul", iar piesa merge de minune cu filmarea. :)
Multam :) ...n-am stiut ce sa bag in fundal, este mult zgomot de mare in filmarea originala si n-am vrut sa o las asa.. asa ca am cautat un remix. Peste cateva saptamani o sa ma bag si eu cu Hun si o sa rog pe cineva sa filmeze cu camera mare.
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Post by: Sorin on May 22, 2012, 05:49:56 AM
ce bine o mai duceti voi
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Post by: prototype on May 22, 2012, 06:24:50 AM
A treia poza e faina. :)
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Post by: fabius.m on May 22, 2012, 06:59:05 AM
Ce rau imi pare ca n-am nici o balta buna p-aproape.. as face si eu o baie!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on May 22, 2012, 06:55:43 PM
Very fortunate to have the sea near by for the exercising, and Hun doesn't mind it at all.. He does have that Filou vom Kaolinsee physique about him, i think Dani you mentioned that a while back..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 06:04:48 AM
Yes, in a static shot he does look a lot like Filou K.. I don't mind that at all may I add.. :cool: He has very good drive like his dam Venus, I will get someone else to video shoot while I play with him and get into the sea with him.
Da, are structura lui Filou per ansamblu si asta nu ma deranjeaza deloc :cool: Are drive f bun ca maica-sa, Venus, voi ruga pe altcineva sa filmeze cand ma joc cu el si cand intru cu el in mare.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 09:19:07 AM
Ia niste creta maro si baga mare ca sa scapi de intrebari de astea. :lol:
:grin:
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Ce capatana a facut :shocked:, cred ca la doi ani se ia cu taurul la intrecere. :grin:
Da, capul si toracele sunt bull-type :cool:
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Post by: AXX Police Tracker on May 23, 2012, 10:13:40 AM
ce relaxat inoata :)
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Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 10:14:52 AM
ii place la nebunie
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Post by: AXX Police Tracker on May 23, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
stiu, de la istericul meu, ca se duce in apa sa inoate chiar daca nu ii arunc nimic. De multe ori si la fata locului (la serviciu) daca prelucreaza urma pe langa vreo balta sau rau, renunta la ea si fuge la apa sa-i arunc ceva :grin: m-am specializat in speculatii de genul: "o fi mers pe langa apa" sau "acolo au dus curentii de aer mirosul" :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
Si lui Hun ii place mult in apa, ieri eu plecam de pe plaja (Modern) iar el ramanea in urma uitandu-se spre mare. Maine dimineata daca nu ploua o duc pe Briska.
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Post by: fabius.m on May 23, 2012, 11:22:05 AM
Sa tot cresti caini la Constanta... ;)
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Post by: tessa on May 23, 2012, 12:41:49 PM
ehei Dani ... am sa-l iau putin la mine sa faca contact si cu muntele ce-o sa-i mai placa aiaiaaaaa am si eu apa destula...rauri, lacuri... aer curat pofta mare de mancare :cheesy: frumos catel :rockon:
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Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 12:46:17 PM
ahh nu ma mai provoca.. am vazut eu prin poza ce aveti acolo, o splendoare.. lasa ca pt acum innotul (asa se scrie?) e foarte bun pt el, e inca tanar si alergatul ar pune totusi ceva presiune pe incheieturi. Da, e un animal frumos, se uita lumea dupa el parca n-ar fi caine..
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Post by: tessa on May 23, 2012, 12:52:59 PM
frumos cataloiul :rockon:
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Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 01:04:09 PM
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Post by: fabius.m on May 25, 2012, 12:03:12 AM
e capatanos! ;)
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Post by: Man Stopper on May 25, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
Good to see the different profiles of Hun and he does have that adolescent look about him, before you know it in a years time he will have changed with more masculinity..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 25, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
He is definitely still young in both looks and temperament, still very playful and has the face of a crazy, careless youngster indeed :grin:
Da, e inca pustan atat in aspect cat si temperament, inca foarte jucaus si are fatza unui adolescent nebun, fara griji :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 31, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
Cateva cadre dupa alergarea de seara, primele 2 sunt cele mai sugestive :grin:
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Post by: Johnsk9 on May 31, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Briska & Hun photos look good
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Post by: ben on May 31, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
Thanks John, they are both fit, swimming, running.. just getting in shape :cool: Briska used to be quicker to the ball in the past but Hun now gets to it just as quickly, he is bigger so that helps him. Pretty fast for his size too.
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Post by: Johnsk9 on May 31, 2012, 02:48:49 PM
Thanks John, they are both fit, swimming, running.. just getting in shape :cool: Briska used to be quicker to the ball in the past but Hun now gets to it just as quickly, he is bigger so that helps him. Pretty fast for his size too.
Yes i seen the swimming video looked like Hun went very far way. he was getting very small as he swam away
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Post by: ben on May 31, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
The beach you have him in should be very good as well as the sand for strenght
Yes, same way it works for humans. But I am thinking the swimming will be particularly good as it does not put pressure on bones n joints cause he is still young.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on June 01, 2012, 12:44:56 AM
The close ups of Hun are really impressive, you should be very happy with him when he's fully matured.. I noticed that Hun has the black spot on tongue, Casso also has similar sized spot on tongue and same area of tongue, strong pigmentation..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 01:06:21 AM
The close ups of Hun are really impressive, you should be very happy with him when he's fully matured..
Yes I am looking forward to seeing the "final product", he is putting on some fine mass these days and the head is big, strong and expressive. He still has the childish look on his face.
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I noticed that Hun has the black spot on tongue, Casso also has similar sized spot on tongue and same area of tongue, strong pigmentation..
Well to my shame, I've no idea if the black spot on the tongue is directly related to pigmentation strength if I'm honest but.. all in all, Hun is one solid black type and pigmentation problems are definitely out of the picture plus, I've seen all his litter mates and boy do they have pigment :cool:
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Post by: Man Stopper on June 01, 2012, 01:23:05 AM
Have heard over the years from differant breeders that this black spot on tongue shows genetics for stronger pigmentation. Maybe other forum members have heard the same..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 01:31:17 AM
I see.. I guess many answers will be reflected in his progenies, when the time comes.
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Post by: istvan on June 01, 2012, 12:45:25 PM
Este suberb, nu ca la lucru ar conta pigmentul sau culoarea, dar bicolor , black- in tan imi place si mie, este si foarte expresiv , foarte rar. :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 12:52:35 PM
Abia astept sa-l bag in lucru de protectie, sunt sigur ca nu ma va dezamagi ;)
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Post by: Johnsk9 on June 01, 2012, 05:04:08 PM
There are many tales of meanings for the black spots It is just melanin.If you look at this photo the inside of the mouth and the gums being dark would be good sign of pigment
Melanin: The pigment that gives human skin, hair, and eyes their color. Dark-skinned people have more melanin in their skin than light-skinned people have. Melanin is produced by cells called melanocytes. It provides some protection again skin damage from the sun, and the melanocytes increase their production of melanin in response to sun exposure. Freckles, which occur in people of all races, are small, concentrated areas of increased melanin production.) (http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff299/johnsDDR/Hun-1.jpg)
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Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 10:38:13 PM
Thanks for the detailed post John.
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Post by: prototype on June 01, 2012, 11:44:41 PM
Ori nu-s concludente ultimele poze, ori s-a schimbat mult si intr-un timp scurt! :huh: E mai masiv si urechile parca le-a apropiat una de cealalta. Bine, si capatana...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 11:48:26 PM
Hmmm.. poate e alt caine... :rolleyes:
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Post by: ben on June 02, 2012, 02:42:14 AM
Mda.. Hun a facut o fixatie pe copii.. de multe ori se joaca nepoteii mei afara in fatza portii mele iar cainii se agita si Hun cel putin vad ca are pata pusa, trebuie sa fiu atent. Azi am facut prima baie in mare - superba apa!! Evident n-am luat cu mine telefonul deci n-am facut poze in mare, doar pe uscat, so, just sharing a few...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on June 02, 2012, 02:51:53 AM
LIKE!
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Post by: ben on June 03, 2012, 04:41:48 AM
S-au incins la bataie Hun si Briska azi la pranz, ma surprinde ca doar sunt mascul si femela...
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Post by: fabius.m on June 03, 2012, 05:23:35 AM
se mai bat si masculi cu femele, sunt si catele care sunt mai dominante si isi iau grade in haita care riposteaza fara nici o retinere.. acum depinde si cine a inceput? Hun sai Briska?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 03, 2012, 06:26:04 AM
.. acum depinde si cine a inceput? Hun sai Briska?
au venit niste prieteni in vizita si asa cum ai vazut prin inregistrari anterioare Briska are tendinta sa se infiga in Hun cand sunt inchisi impreuna si fac urat. Mai pe scurt.. Briska a inceput.. De obicei Hun tace din gura dar azi a ieit cu poc.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on June 03, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
pai d-acuma incepe sa se impuna, prin incaierare se decid care dintre ei e sefu d-acuma..
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Post by: mariuspaun on June 07, 2012, 10:45:37 PM
Si cine a cedat, Hun banuiesc? E clar ca incepe sa se simta si el mai barbat si o sa o tavaleasca odata bine pe Briska ca sa-i arate ca s-a schimbat seful si ca el nu mai e un pusti cordit :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 08, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
Si cine a cedat, Hun banuiesc? E clar ca incepe sa se simta si el mai barbat si o sa o tavaleasca odata bine pe Briska ca sa-i arate ca s-a schimbat seful si ca el nu mai e un pusti cordit :cheesy:
Nu a cedat niciunul pt ca i-am despartit eu, oricum si Briska parea "hotarata" dar Hun are avantajul fizic.
Istoria se repeta aproape de fiecare data cand il scot pe Hun la plimbare in parc sau la plaja. "Ce rasa este?" - C German - "Negru..??" :grin: Stau si ma gandesc, CG negru exista de cand ma stiu si pe mine ca existand pe planeta pamant in Constanta.. ma surprinde intrebarea asta legata de culoare. Adica, inteleg ca oamenii nu stiu anumite lucruri importante despre CG, dar sa nu stii ca un "caine lup" poate fi si negru... Si culmea, mai rar mi se pune intrebarea asta cand ies cu Briska. Tin minte insa cum vorbeau doi flacai pe langa care am trecut spunand ca "e corcita, lup cu.. etc.." nu mai stiu ce :grin:
Anyway.. 2 cadre cu Hun la alergare in parc azi dimineata devreme.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: steffy on June 08, 2012, 12:43:01 AM
mda.... pai si sotului i-a spus cineva ca Tod e corcit ca n-are spatele lasat. sotul mai calm fiind i-a raspuns cu o ironie finutza dar eu am murit de draci cand mi-a povestit. faceam urat daca eram de fatza. pai cum sa-mi jigneasca copilul? auzi....corcit!!!!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: mariuspaun on June 08, 2012, 01:21:21 AM
:grin: :grin: :grin: Mie mi se intampla frecvent asta si de cateva ori chiar am reusit sa ma cert cu niste "cunoscatori" care nu intelegeau cum pot fi atat de idiot incat sa nu stiu ce caine am. Cel mai frecvent aud ca am Ciobanesc Canadian, pe care culmea, eu pe Google l-am gasit ca fiind alb :grin:. Cred ca daca imi mai spun cativa asta o sa incep sa fac cercetari sa vad daca nu cumva Costi mi-a dat alt pedigree si mi-a vopsit cainele cu negru... O singura data m-a intrebat un om, in parc ce varsta are si dupa ce i-am spus, mi-a zis "Sa'ti traisca, frumos exemplar". Parea ca stie despre ce vorbeste. Alltfel, toti oamenii care m-au intrebat ce rasa este (si nu au fost putini) au ramas interzisi cand au aflat ca e ciobanesc german si cel mai probabil au crezut ca fac glume pe seama lor.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Valentino on June 08, 2012, 03:56:16 AM
Pai da ,ca majoritatea au fost invatati cu ciobanescul german ,cu spatele lasat ...sincer sa spun si eu credeam asta cu multi ani in urma ...dar vorbind cu ,cunoscatori am aflat si eu adevarul :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 08, 2012, 10:31:12 AM
Pai da ,ca majoritatea au fost invatati cu ciobanescul german ,cu spatele lasat ...sincer sa spun si eu credeam asta cu multi ani in urma ...dar vorbind cu ,cunoscatori am aflat si eu adevarul :grin:
Nu neaparat cu spatele lasat cred, daca nu ma insel ala se numeste "de linie"... majoritatea stiu ca trebuie sa fie negru cu maro (caine lup). In trecut daca spunei Ciobanesc German in loc de Caine Lup, mai toti spuneau "aaa.. de-ala mare.. cred ca mananca cu galeata!", pt ca ei, auzind termenul "german", se gandeau la Dog German :grin: si trebuia sa le explic ca e denumirea corecta a CG-ului.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on June 08, 2012, 10:41:59 AM
Exact asta au spus si niste cunostinte de-ale maicamii acum vreo 2 ani, cand le-am spus ce caine avem. :cheesy: "Cred ca are niste vase pentru mancare cat galeata!" :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 09, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
:grin: ce fetze au amandoi, se vede ca a cam venit vara la CT. Si inca n-a venit caldura aia de Iulie..
Briska ce tine in gura, o bucata de perete ? :shocked:
o bucata de tencuiala, cand ies in curte, daca nu are mingea, cauta repede ceva sa ma provoace la joaca iar daca nu are ce, rupe din tencuiala padocului (care a fost prost facuta)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on June 09, 2012, 01:36:47 AM
o bucata de tencuiala, cand ies in curte, daca nu are mingea, cauta repede ceva sa ma provoace la joaca iar daca nu are ce, rupe din tencuiala padocului (care a fost prost facuta)
Sa nu-si toceasca dintii prematur doar, ca ar fi pacat.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 09, 2012, 01:37:15 AM
Sa nu-si toceasca dintii prematur doar, ca ar fi pacat.
Nope, n-are cand asa repede, in plus, nu o tine in gura decat cand sunt eu in curte, sa ma provoace la joaca. Fie o lasa jos din gura daca plec fie i-o iau eu, tencuiala sau ce-o mai gasi ea.. :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on June 10, 2012, 01:28:20 AM
Niste cadre dupa antrenamentul din parc de dimineata
a mai pus pe el, se cunoaste bine bine.. de cand il duci sa inoate ? are o luna?
nu, mai putin de o luna pt ca totusi apa a fost rece.. Acum de fapt vad ca se subtiaza usor, cred ca e de la caldura, in schimb Briska a mai pus pe ea.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 17, 2012, 01:30:49 AM
Apropos de caini care au naparlit (Remus, Herta etc) cateva poze cu Hun de dimineata, in parc.
Ah, ce poze i-as mai face si lui si Briskai! Arata foarte bine!
Da, dupa ce am vazut ce poze ai facut pe la tessa in ograda.. chiar ca abia astept sa-i pozezi si pe Hun si briska. Apropos, baga o parte din ele la portofoliu...
Da, are un cap frumos si ma bucur sa stiu ca inca mai are de pus ceva masa, e ciutan. Pe trup cred ca ma pot pronunta, nu mai trebuie sa stept.. e Filou v Kaolinsee cat cuprinde. Am amanat antrenamentele de protectie pana in toamna din 2 motive, e foarte foarte cald si e inca ciutan in comportament. Cica astia DDR se coc mai lent.. cam asa este din ce vad.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on July 17, 2012, 06:34:39 AM
Da, dupa ce am vazut ce poze ai facut pe la tessa in ograda.. chiar ca abia astept sa-i pozezi si pe Hun si briska. Apropos, baga o parte din ele la portofoliu...
Si eu sunt super multumita de poze! Caini frumosi cu poze frumoase! :cool: Cu siguranta voi baga si la portofoliu. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on July 17, 2012, 07:39:49 AM
@ Prototype : ai dat "Report to moderator" in loc de Reply la ultimul post. :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on July 17, 2012, 07:41:02 AM
Asta a si fost intentia - report.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 17, 2012, 07:45:40 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on July 19, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
Dani i see you keeping Hun pretty slick in the Summer weather you guys have up there.. Hun does have that Filou look about him in his body type more so..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 19, 2012, 07:41:27 AM
Hun does have that Filou look about him in his body type more so..
Definitely the Filou look on his body. Still needs to put on some muscle on the rear legs but it's just very hot these days, I'll postpone training till October I think... I would go to the beach so he would swim but the tourists are flooding in these days. Unless I go very early in the morning.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 24, 2012, 01:34:46 AM
Ma tot uit la astea doua poze, are un cap splendid, puternic.
Da, as spune ca cel putin pana in prezent e punctul lui forte :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on July 24, 2012, 03:00:21 AM
Cred pe la toamna-iarna cand va incepe sa mai puna ceva pe el si va face o blana mai deasa va arata teribil de bine. Capatzana lui e super faina, dar nici restul nu-i mai prejos!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 24, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Capatzana lui e super faina, dar nici restul nu-i mai prejos!
Are spatele ceva mai curbat in anumite momente, cum spuneam, aduce a Filou Kaolinsee, eu fiind unul care prefera un spate drept. Dar nu ma doare deloc asta, TEMPERAMENTUL sa ma satisfaca :) dar asta bine-nteles nu inseamna ca ignor aspectul.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 24, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
I watched Ed Frawley's videos of the 89 DDR Sieger and I clearly noted the east Germans by that time already bred more angulated dogs.... Even Viktor ad Westsachsen who's looks I actually like, seems to be a pretty angulated dog.
Yes that is what I believe, that the look changed as the East Germans started to breed more for looks as that sold well in the West.
Would it be fair to say that with the transformation of body type, that the character also changed to more of a 'softer' dog if i can call it...! To cater for those in the West..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 09:13:06 AM
Would it be fair to say that with the transformation of body type, that the character also changed to more of a 'softer' dog if i can call it...! To cater for those in the West..
I guess you will have to wait until you see the first protection sessions on video here to get an answer to that question To be honest all we can do is make presumptions as we were not present there in those days. But let me say this, these pups I got right now are something special (so far) with the male being less keen on being pet/groomed and growls often (you will see plenty videos in the coming weeks) this afternoon he actually showed his teeth as I teased him but I didn't have the camera with me. Then there's the female who is ever so lively and courageous.. believe me I am on a "journey" of monitoring these pups as I really like what i see so far. My prediction is, the female will be a lot like Briska (very lively and playful) and the male will be one heck of a guard dog, actually reminds me of Ben (not enjoying "sweet stuff" a bit more "serious" and growls a lot). I guess time will tell if I am right about this.. and of course I'll do my best to keep you all up to date.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 09:15:07 AM
...just to add, one of the major reasons I wanted to get to John is because he actually has blood that's the closest (at least in my view) to the old blood. I think Held and Don when I say that. John saw something in these dogs back some years ago that no one else did.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on July 27, 2012, 09:35:29 AM
We can take John's word for it as he has witnessed the bloodlines in person and has had some cracker of original unique DDR dog's, such as Sammy D who looks like a beast.. Can't wait for the video's Dani and maybe you can ship me over some of that Ostschutz genetics down this part of the world..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
Still looking pretty good considering the weather, especially the last photo has captures the expression and head/body development..
Yes I too like that last one. Took some more this morning (very early) on the beach
Dimineata foarte devreme ne-am dus la plaja, mai exact pana sa inceapa sa apara turistii (dar deja erau cativa pe plaja). Superba dimineata, vant relativ puternic, ceva valuri... frumos. Abia astept sa vina Septembrie sa fie plaja din nou "a noastra" :lol:
Hehe, ce mult nisip are pe nas! E miner si el, vorba lui Catalin, ca si Manto! :grin:
Chiar ma gandeam mai devreme, daca ma joc cu ceva efecte, cred ca pot face nisipul sa para zapada..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on August 11, 2012, 06:11:32 AM
Hello Dani, I must say Hun is maturing into a very handsome dog. Somewhat outside the typicle DDR look straight back etc.. As a personal preferance i much prefer the look of Hun,that's just me!!.
Maybe John can produce a bi-colour of Hun in his next litter for me.
Regards sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 11, 2012, 07:51:47 AM
Hello Dani, I must say Hun is maturing into a very handsome dog. Somewhat outside the typicle DDR look straight back etc.. As a personal preferance i much prefer the look of Hun,that's just me!!.
Maybe John can produce a bi-colour of Hun in his next litter for me.
Regards sam.
Hun is the only one in the litter with a back like that. I got a feeling John won't be pairing the dogs with the top line in mind, as a starting point ;) I too like Hun like this plus he looks better as he grows older, you will see more of him in the falls, now it's just too hot.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 11, 2012, 06:44:04 PM
Hello Dani, I must say Hun is maturing into a very handsome dog. Somewhat outside the typicle DDR look straight back etc.. As a personal preferance i much prefer the look of Hun,that's just me!!.
Maybe John can produce a bi-colour of Hun in his next litter for me.
Regards sam.
I think John would be more inclined to re produce and stay inside what a typical DDR looks like.. Straight back with big bones and the correct attitude; all the way 'old school' my man...!!!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on August 12, 2012, 02:55:10 AM
Yes,your both wright Dani and Manstopper character come's first. I'm sure back in the day's of Held,Ingo,Don and Alf breeder's then to were trying to breed a particular type of DDR dog hence the different line's e.g line13,5a,11a and so on true?
All it is for is that groing up as a young boy in Australia we got to see so many German Shepherd's in people's backyard's and not knowing anything about bloodline's,all we knew was that these dog's ment business!. but they all had their on particular look and so for it wasn't an issue about type un till i saw for the first time a dog by the name Of Errambie Offering.
He was a tall bi-colour with only of medium build but he had that stallion look about him and so from that moment on i said to my self i wan't a Shepherd just like him.
He had a very firm character but not over the top as far as agression unlike your psycho dog ONYX manstopper,please forgive my spelling as i only completed year10 in highschool.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 03:58:49 AM
He was a tall bi-colour with only of medium build but he had that stallion look about him and so from that moment on i said to my self i wan't a Shepherd just like him.
That sounds ever so good, it's so important that you know exactly WHAT you're after, what you want!!
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He had a very firm character but not over the top as far as agression unlike your psycho dog ONYX manstopper,please forgive my spelling as i only completed year10 in highschool.
:grin: I love the way you mentioned Onyx.. Reg, I wish you kept his progeny... Your English is just fine to us, Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 03:59:56 AM
I tried to find online that Errambie dog but didn't find anything.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on August 12, 2012, 09:39:40 AM
s-a schimbat destul de mult, cel putin in poze asa se vede, imi place capul lui, e puternic si are toracele mare
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 10:33:47 AM
s-a schimbat destul de mult, cel putin in poze asa se vede, imi place capul lui, e puternic si are toracele mare
Inca se mai schimba. Are spatele ceva mai curbat iar cei care l-au muscat pe Hun de crupa pe chestia asta (si-a ajuns si pe la urechile mele) sa se duca in padure ca ADN-ul lui Hun nu va ajunge si in paharul lor. :beer:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on August 13, 2012, 07:32:13 PM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on August 14, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
Hello Dani, That footage that Manstopper posted on youtube is footage that i gave him. I more footage of Errambie Offering(Igor)and many other's,i just have to find time to post it.
I endever to go and see Steve and try get a pic of Igor,this pic was taken by a professional phatographer when we all used to train our dog's together.My self,Steve,Kris at von Forell and so on.
We no longer train our dog's that way as the law's here don't alow as to do so anymore.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 15, 2012, 07:24:42 AM
That footage that Manstopper posted on youtube is footage that i gave him. I more footage of Errambie Offering(Igor)and many other's,i just have to find time to post it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttqUZjk5yPA
Looks like you video shoot the video as it's being played back on VCR. If you used a capture card you would get better picture quality ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on August 19, 2012, 03:25:59 AM
Hello Dani, So what's next for Hun e.g. breeding,training ect...?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 19, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
Hello Dani, So what's next for Hun e.g. breeding,training ect...?
Training in coming autumn and breeding.. well I am thinking of repeating the one with Briska but not just yet, as I have different plans for Briska for the coming months. ideea being, I want to breed Hun to DDR bitches, his blood is to valuable to have it used on any bitch.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 05, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
Caterinca show tudei la vet. M-am dus sa fac cateilor al 3lea vaccin si vet-ul m-a intrebat de parinti ca i-au placut mult cateii asa ca m-am dus cu Briska iar apoi cu Hun. Cand m-am dus cu Hun era pe-aproape un cetatean de etnie diferita ( a se citi printre randuri). La care vet-ul catre Hun zice "Ia-l, uite cioara!" iar Hun a stat vreo 3 secunde si a inceput sa latre la flacau :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 05, 2012, 12:48:06 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 05, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
Flacaul statea in loc langa un stalp, nu facea nimic si, totusi lui Hun i s-a pus pata pe el. Sa fi fost mirosul, sa fi fost altceva.. nu stiu, dar mi-a placut reactia lui :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 05, 2012, 12:57:47 PM
Foarte bine a facut Hun! :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 05, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
Acusica in toamna vreau sa incep antrenamentele cu el si ii urmaresc toate momentele astea, incercand sa-l "citesc". E inca tanar in reactie... dar parca n-as vrea sa mai aman antrenamentele..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: hora on September 05, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Flacaul statea in loc langa un stalp, nu facea nimic si, totusi lui Hun i s-a pus pata pe el. Sa fi fost mirosul, sa fi fost altceva.. nu stiu, dar mi-a placut reactia lui :lol:
Stiu ca e riscant ce spun, dar doua dorinte am in ceea ce o priveste pe a mea catelusa: sa manance un tigan la micul dejun si unul la cina! :angry:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on September 06, 2012, 05:50:22 AM
Cand m-am dus cu Hun era pe-aproape un cetatean de etnie diferita ( a se citi printre randuri). La care vet-ul catre Hun zice "Ia-l, uite cioara!" iar Hun a stat vreo 3 secunde si a inceput sa latre la flacau :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Flacaul statea in loc langa un stalp, nu facea nimic si, totusi lui Hun i s-a pus pata pe el. Sa fi fost mirosul, sa fi fost altceva.. nu stiu, dar mi-a placut reactia lui :lol:
Cred ca au carnea muscabila. :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 06:14:05 AM
:grin: Nu stiu ce anume l-a determinat sa se dea la el dar oricum, ma bucur ca are in el samantza de scandal :pretty: Si azi a fost un prieten pe la mine si am iesit cu Hun in afara curtii (ca in curte stiu deja ca face urat) si l-am pus pe prieten sa faca miscari bruste spre Hun sa vad ce si cum si putin cate putin vad in ochii cainelui scanteia aia are spune "I like this game" :grin: :cool: Vad ca s-a mai racorit (cel putin dimineata si seara) asa ca voi incepe acusica antrenamentele.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on September 06, 2012, 06:19:33 AM
Abia astept sa-l vad!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 06:22:29 AM
Crede-ma ca abia astept EU sa-l "vad". Am vazut la el niste calitati cand era pustan si vreau sa vad daca am anticipat bine anumite lucruri. Oricum, in toamna asta se lasa cu miscare..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on September 06, 2012, 06:47:21 AM
Aveti grija cu infruptatul din aceste "redutabile" specimene, sa nu cumva sa va imbolnaviti si voi si cainii, la cat de "curati" sunt. :lol:
daca ar fi numai curatenia fizica problema ar fi usor de rezolvat... :grin: Problemele din pacate sunt si mult mai in profunzime...in genotip mai exact.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 07:24:06 AM
Oricum, pe undeva cumva, a fost un motiv de s-a dat Hun la el, nu m-ar mira sa fie pt ca patrupezii au mirosul f dezvoltat (incerc sa fiu "sportiv" in comunicare ca un forum e spatiu public).
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ceaiu on September 06, 2012, 07:40:38 AM
Pai ne spunea AXX, in topicul cu urma, cum cainele miroase "transpiratia emanata in conditii de stress (la cea reala) care este mult mai mare decat cea normala". Eu cred ca unii sunt mult mai stresati (decat altii) in prezenta acestei rase, pe care o asociaza cu cainele politist (transmis genetic). Ce sa le faci daca inaintasii lor, sau poate chiar ei, sunt mai certati cu legea?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Nooooooo... cetateanul in discutie era f relaxat, ba chiar i-a zis vet-ului "nu mi-e frica de tine" si imediat dupa a inceput Hun sa-l latre si cei de fatza au pufnit in ras, ca a intins-o omu' de urgenta.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ceaiu on September 06, 2012, 08:10:35 AM
Pai cum e cu detectoarele alea de minciuni cu camere termice? Omu' zice ceva, dar temperatura din jurul ochilor /nivelul de transpiratie zic altceva (cand minte /e nervos). Cainele simte ce tu nu poti simti. Ma gandesc la urmatoarele situatii reale: 1. mergi pe strada cu cainele, iar din directia opusa vine un tip foarte preocupat vorbind la telefon, cu niciun interes fata de tine. 2. mergi pe strada cu cainele, iar din directia opusa vine un tip care vrea sa-ti dea o perversa de pe Targu' Ocna :). Incearca sa mascheze intentia nefacand nicio clipa contact vizual cu tine si prefacandu-se ca merge normal. Cum reactioneaza cainele in ambele situatii (ma refer la acei caini de lucru antrenati si cu gene bune pentru protectie)? Sare cainele in a doua situatie inainte ca individul sa schiteze un gest, sau abia dupa? Daca sare inainte, ce-l face sa reactioneze?
Si eu am observat la Linda o agresivitate sporita fata de anumite etnii, dar nu cred ca mirosul in sine o genereaza, ci motivul emanarii acelui miros. Asta cred eu, nu incerc sa te combat!
Oricum si creierul uman e un organ foarte interesant, si iti poate induce idei pe care le ai fara sa constientizezi. Deci, tu iti doresti ca Hun sa reactioneze intr-un anumit fel fata de anumite persoane, iar atunci cand se intampla, inregistrezi ca fiind o regula. Cine stie, poate chiar dorinta ta ca Hun sa reactioneze intr-un anumit fel, l-a facut sa reactioneze asa, el mirosind nivelul tau de agitatie.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 08:22:27 AM
Ce sa zic.. nu stiu ce sa fi fost. Personal sunt tentat sa cred ca e vb de mirosul deranjant, plus ca seara tarziu mai trec tigani prin fatza curtii mele si Hun si Briska latra la ei si, implicit, ma gandesc ca au asociat mirosul in tema cu o forma de disconfort... Cat despre mirosuri si scenariul descris, ma gandesc ca un caine simte n'spe mirosuri pe strada si nu stiu cata viteza in reactie sa aiba cand omu' vine cu gand de Targu Ocna spre mine. Oricum, de obicei eu ii "miros" pe astia si singur :grin: Cei mai periculosi (cel putin in exprerienta mea) sunt cei care par cei mai inofensivi, dar asta e alta poveste.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on September 06, 2012, 10:59:42 AM
Pai ne spunea AXX, in topicul cu urma, cum cainele miroase "transpiratia emanata in conditii de stress (la cea reala) care este mult mai mare decat cea normala". Eu cred ca unii sunt mult mai stresati (decat altii) in prezenta acestei rase, pe care o asociaza cu cainele politist (transmis genetic). Ce sa le faci daca inaintasii lor, sau poate chiar ei, sunt mai certati cu legea?
nu numai ca ai pus punctul pe "i" dar l-ai si subliniat cu rosu :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on September 06, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
Se duce discutia in alta parte, dar Romania are clar o problema cu zburatoarele. Rezolvarea vine numai prin constrangere indiferent cat de necrestineste, imoral ar parea.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ceaiu on September 06, 2012, 12:02:37 PM
Ok, s-a dus rau off topic, dar nu ma pot abtine de la un astfel de subiect. Daca sunt minoritari pe acest forum care cumpara ciobanesti de lucru pentru a proteja casa si familia impotriva majoritarilor? :laugh: Apropos nu prea mai sunt minoritari din moment ce la acest ultim recensamant s-au falsificat date pentru ca minoritarii erau cam multi, si asta ar fi insemnat clase cu predare in limba materna, inscriptionarea denumirii strazilor, folosirea limbii materne in institutii publice...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 12:30:57 PM
Se duce discutia in alta parte, dar Romania are clar o problema cu zburatoarele. Rezolvarea vine numai prin constrangere indiferent cat de necrestineste, imoral ar parea.
Undeva in mintea mea gasesc aceeasi solutie ca fiind "the one".
Ok, s-a dus rau off topic, dar nu ma pot abtine de la un astfel de subiect.
E ok, chiar am sa-i urmaresc comportamentul in prezenta cetatenilor in obiectiv.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 26, 2012, 10:32:07 PM
Bun, am inceput sedinte scurte cu Hun, incerc sa le tin cat mai "real" posibil. Cu diferiti "atentatori" sa-l tin departe de rutina in orice fel pot. Voi face si filmari cum am tot promis. Pt inceput imi place ca Hun face urat la o persoana care sta in fatza mea fara sa fie agitat in niciun fel. Inca vad in el un copil, sper ca n-am inceput prea devreme. Are reactie serioasa dar primesc mesaje de la mare distanta, sa nu ma grabesc. Chiar sunt curios sa vad cum stau lucrurile cu mamaliga DDR. Pe scurt, ma intereseaza sa fie dornic de lupta si sa-l doara sub crupa de manson / echipament.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on September 27, 2012, 01:32:01 AM
Daca intr-adevar el se coace mai greu, chiar n-ai de ce sa te grabesti. Bine, probabil esti cel mai nerabdator sa-l vezi pana unde duce.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 27, 2012, 06:17:44 AM
Bine, probabil esti cel mai nerabdator sa-l vezi pana unde duce.
:yes:
Eu mai dialoghez cu unii cu altii si e un dresor din State care si-a dat cu parerea si cand i-am spus varsta lui Hun mi-a spus sa o iau incet.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: VINCENT on September 27, 2012, 07:32:40 AM
Ia vezi, nu se spune tigan, se spune rrom!Tigan vine din grecescul "atziganos", care inseamna murdar, de neatins...pe cand rrom vine din sanscrita si inseamna om!Iti fac aceasta recomandare pentru ca esti persoana cunoscuta si s-ar putea sa te trezesti cu un proces pentru discriminare rasiala.Si mai vezi ca aceasta etnie e foarte procesomana, mai ales acel segment al ei care e certat cu legea! :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 27, 2012, 08:27:11 AM
Hopa.. cine, unde a spus "tigan"?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 27, 2012, 08:28:57 AM
Ce sa zic.. nu stiu ce sa fi fost. Personal sunt tentat sa cred ca e vb de mirosul deranjant, plus ca seara tarziu mai trec tigani prin fatza curtii mele si Hun si Briska latra la ei si, implicit, ma gandesc ca au asociat mirosul in tema cu o forma de disconfort... Cat despre mirosuri si scenariul descris, ma gandesc ca un caine simte n'spe mirosuri pe strada si nu stiu cata viteza in reactie sa aiba cand omu' vine cu gand de Targu Ocna spre mine. Oricum, de obicei eu ii "miros" pe astia si singur :grin: Cei mai periculosi (cel putin in exprerienta mea) sunt cei care par cei mai inofensivi, dar asta e alta poveste.
:lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on September 27, 2012, 08:30:20 AM
Eu sunt de parere ca nu e o crima daca spui cuvantul "tigan" - in fond si la urma urmei, asa se numesc de cand lumea, sa fim seriosi...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 27, 2012, 08:32:52 AM
aaaa.. multumesc pt clarificare :) Vincent am sa iau nota de observatia ta, cu 2 observatii mai mici: nu cred ca sunt o "persoana cunoscuta" sau nu atat de cunoscuta cat sa stea careva sa ma urmareasca (sau cine stie.. :grin: ) Iar a 2a, daca te duci la britanici, vei vedea ca gypsies ai lor se numesc gypsies si nu sare nimeni in sus sau daca te duci la americani (daca nu ma insel) aceeasi poveste. Doar ca tiganii nostri cu ai lor, nu au cine stie ce in comun. Ai nostri sunt "indieni" ai lor au alta conformatie, alt look.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on September 27, 2012, 08:33:39 AM
Pana una, alta, Hun cum mai e, a mai pus pe el ca a trecut caldura?
O sa fac ceva foto video in viitorul apropiat, arata mai bine ca s-a mai dus caldura. Briska in schimb zici ca nu mananca cu zilele ca naparleste (IAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 08, 2012, 04:15:05 AM
Dani the days are getting shorter in Romania as we speak.. Cant wait to see some footage of Hun in Action, maybe just before dark aggitation.. ;) I think you were looking at around early to mid November, to do some work..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 08, 2012, 06:26:53 AM
Dani the days are getting shorter in Romania as we speak.. Cant wait to see some footage of Hun in Action, maybe just before dark aggitation.. ;) I think you were looking at around early to mid November, to do some work..
Yes sir, actually just yesterday I spoke to one of my friends will perform as an agitator for Hun. We will meet at various places in town, to make things look as real as possible. I will get Hun's progress on video. Mate, I think Nala will be a notch sharper than her parents.. But of course bite force wise, Hun will rule!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 09, 2012, 11:50:41 PM
Thats really good to hear that Nala has extra edge on her.. And sounds like your going to be waking up the neighbours all over town.. :) Its great your doing multiple locations with Hun..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 10, 2012, 01:58:37 AM
And sounds like your going to be waking up the neighbors all over town.. :) Its great your doing multiple locations with Hun..
Oh, that's already happening, some of my neighbors actually hate me but hey, they won't keep trespassers off my property, my dogs will, so I don't care what they think. Yeah, different locations man, right now I am actually talking to one of my friends will take part in getting a response out of Hun. We're deciding on various places in town where he will "suddenly" show up and challenge us (me and Hun). I think only in late November, maybe early December, I will introduce bite equipment in the picture. Point is, I will try to stay away from the typical sport-like training and needless to add, focus on the man, not the equipment. Modern/current FCI/SV (you name it..) expectations is that you promote your working dog under IPO/SchH (or in short, sport) criteria and I want to do that only if it's really needed... I hope it won't be the case.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 10, 2012, 02:26:57 AM
It sounds like Hun's maturity is near enough for some real life scenario's.. And your right the neighbours wont keep the trespassers out...! Locally here Dani there was a dog with identical bloodline as my past dog Onyx.. Well this dog was 1 tough dog who's bark and attitude was as serious as a heart attack.. But unfortunateley 1 of the neighbours we believe poisoned him.. Real shame about this dog, its pretty f..... up at times with neighbours..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 10, 2012, 04:05:28 AM
It sounds like Hun's maturity is near enough for some real life scenario's..
Yeah, or at least I think so. Not long ago he started to have a go at strangers without being provoked.
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But unfortunateley 1 of the neighbours we believe poisoned him.. Real shame about this dog, its pretty f..... up at times with neighbours..
Yeah, somebody else's dog here in the forum was just saying his neighbors tried to poison their dog (Taz). It's crazy..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on October 10, 2012, 04:27:37 AM
My first dog Rocky, died like this (poisoned), at the age of just 3 years...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on October 13, 2012, 11:30:59 PM
Hello Dani, How are things going their in Romania and how are the K9's. The puppy looks very promising Dani and like the fact that she is showing suspicion allready at such a young age.
How is Hun going,Dani wouldn't mind to see some updated photo's of him when you get a chance.
I know you don't like to hear this but if possible can you take some pic's of him in show stance as i would very much like to see him in that stance.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 14, 2012, 12:07:46 AM
Hey Sam, My photographer is back in town, and sometime next week I plan to shoot a photo session with both Hun and Briska. Nala, the young one, shows very promissing temperament as you said. She already responds with an almost mature reaction if I walked inside the yard with suspicious moves (until I get close enough for her to recognize me). I will try and get some video of that too.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 07:42:11 AM
...ci cateva cadre cu Hun de la prima lui sesiune de agitatie. Cred ca am facut o prostie cand am transferat pozele de pe aparat ca sunt putine.. sper sa le mai aiba fotograful.
Great shots there Dani, i can see some fire in those pics.. ;) I like the last one especially..!
He is still "young" in his reaction, at first he looked confused when he saw a guy coming towards him with weird movements, but within seconds he changed from confused to intense. I will get the camcorder with me next time.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 16, 2012, 07:50:07 AM
Fain contrastul dintre culoarea blanii si cea a dintilor. :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 07:51:32 AM
If you mean the top line.. well, sometimes it looks like that and sometime it doesn't, hehe.. you guys will see more in the videos I will take during the next sessions.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 16, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
If you mean the top line.. well, sometimes it looks like that and sometime it doesn't, hehe.. you guys will see more in the videos I will take during the next sessions.
:rockon: ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 09:04:14 AM
Multam fain, azi dimineata am comunicat fotografului feedback-ul pozitiv din forum. Da, imi place si mie in poza aia. O sa arate si mai beton la iarna cand pune pe el.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on October 17, 2012, 10:25:36 PM
Hello Dani,
Thank you for posting the pic's of Hun,he look's vey nice.
When you get a chance try to do them without a harness as it doesn't show the dog's true structure, never thr less much apreciated.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 17, 2012, 10:46:53 PM
OK Sam, I'll do that for you at the next training session.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 17, 2012, 10:57:51 PM
He has reasons to ;) Actually I think you'll like him too after you see some bite work. Hun has a powerful bite, he had a good bite ever since I first saw him back in Florida.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 18, 2012, 12:07:04 AM
We all have our reason's why we like in a dog.. And your right Dani, i like to see Hun with a grip like a shark.. And i dont doubt it for a second, am sure he's genetics will show..! :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 18, 2012, 12:17:44 AM
We all have our reason's why we like in a dog.. And your right Dani, i like to see Hun with a grip like a shark.. And i dont doubt it for a second, am sure he's genetics will show..! :rockon:
I think at this point in my life as a breeder, when I think of Hun I am just thankful for the genes.. if I got the genes, I got the potential to fly if I know how to combine bloodlines. If I learned some things from John in the last few years, that would be one of them.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 22, 2012, 11:51:06 PM
Am amanat pt maine (Marti) urmatoarea sedinta foto, desi as vrea sa fac si o filmare. In principiu, ziua de Luni am pus-o pt asa ceva.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 22, 2012, 11:53:41 PM
Filmare, filmare! :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 22, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
Pe fotograf, ca el stie ce e aia incadrare. Eh, vad eu, tre sa iasa ceva. Vreau sa ma concentrez mult pe entrenament, iar dupa ce ajungem la lucru pe echipament, o sa stau mai relaxat sa pot filma.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 06:59:05 AM
A doua sesiune de antrenament, am facut greseala sa o dam la joaca mai intai (au intrat in mare etc) si au fost cam relaxati, dar e ok. Fotograful s-a descurcat ok cu camera video.
Second agitation session. I made the mistake of playing with them prior to the actual session (going into the sea etc) and they were a bit relaxed afterwards, but it's ok. The photographer did ok with the camcorder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ac1xn-e_Y
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 07:00:33 AM
...si putina distractie
and a little bit of fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9ebJbVWeY
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on October 24, 2012, 07:02:08 AM
Super! Chiar imi place ceea ce vad!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 07:10:32 AM
O sa filmez eu mai incolo cand ajungem intr-un punct mai avansat cu lucrul.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 24, 2012, 08:03:54 AM
I love Hun's character and come time when he completely mature's, he will be 1 super dog in character.. He showed no signs of avoidance and it shows strong nerves IMO... Man he has got a naturally inborn genetic grip on him, he will sure do just about anything to get to the prey object.. Like the way he gets a few slaps to warm him up, and once again he is not phased by any distraction from what i can see.. Dani do you think he needs to develop in maturity a few more months before, he has more aggitation sessions ??
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 08:09:39 AM
Man he has got a naturally inborn genetic grip on him, he will sure do just about anything to get to the prey object.. Like the way he gets a few slaps to warm him up, and once again he is not phased by any distraction from what i can see..
Ye mate, a firm bite is one of his top features so far, he will do some fine bite work later in the year.
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Dani do you think he needs to develop in maturity a few more months before, he has more aggitation sessions ??
Yes, definitely yes. I mean, he has courage and determination but is still not as "ripe" as I want. But he definitely has loads of fight in him, he likes the fire, so to speak. That's why I keep the sessions short and no bite equipment on sight whatsoever.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 08:13:21 AM
Si un pic de distractie.. O sa postez mai pe seara secventele astea filmate cu un LG android pe care vreau sa-l cumpar.
Some more fun shots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36ow1BCErI
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 08:17:55 AM
:grin: ...si putin fun si din partea atentatorului :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78F835zinVc
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 24, 2012, 08:21:35 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback mate! Ye mate, a firm bite is one of his top features so far, he will do some fine bite work later in the year.Yes, definitely yes. I mean, he has courage and determination but is still not as "ripe" as I want. But he definitely has loads of fight in him, he likes the fire, so to speak. That's why I keep the sessions short and no bite equipment on sight whatsoever.
Could be even shorter sessions but more intense, with the aggitator giving the right balance of pressure against Hun, because he has the courage slowly coming up, and he will do great with that grip he's got also.. Would it be an idea starting him off on a hidden suit ??
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 08:26:56 AM
Could be even shorter sessions but more intense, with the aggitator giving the right balance of pressure against Hun, because he has the courage slowly coming up, and he will do great with that grip he's got also..
yeah, that's the plan, actually.
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Would it be an idea starting him off on a hidden suit ??
Hmm.. not a bad idea..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 24, 2012, 09:19:57 AM
Are reactie buna, dar parca se vede ca nu e lucrat.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on October 24, 2012, 09:52:33 AM
Ce frumos e p-acolo pe la tine, as veni si eu cu ai mei la un antrenament intr-o zi nu cred ca am deranja vecinii :lol: Dupa o perioada doar de agitatie vei vedea o reactie mult mai serioasa. Deci ne-am apucat mai multi de treaba :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
Are reactie buna, dar parca se vede ca nu e lucrat.
Da, are ce-i trebuie dar e crud inca. Daca vii mai aproape de el intra in viteza mai buna. O sa o tin in sesiuni scurte, o sa alternez atentatorii si locatia.
Ce frumos e p-acolo pe la tine, as veni si eu cu ai mei la un antrenament intr-o zi nu cred ca am deranja vecinii :lol: Dupa o perioada doar de agitatie vei vedea o reactie mult mai serioasa. Deci ne-am apucat mai multi de treaba :)
Well, anunta-ma cand vii :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on October 24, 2012, 12:17:31 PM
Da, are ce-i trebuie dar e crud inca. Daca vii mai aproape de el intra in viteza mai buna. O sa o tin in sesiuni scurte, o sa alternez atentatorii si locatia.
Mai bine nu te grabesti cu el. Dupa ce am vazut, eu zic ca ar fi bine sa-l mai lasi sa copilareasca.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 24, 2012, 12:32:47 PM
This bloodline is for GO not SHOW.. I think Sam would respect your inexperience and Hun's lack of co - operation...!
Hehe.. actually that's more of a fun element for me.. I thought I gave it a try but Hun didn't bother too much :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on October 25, 2012, 05:37:10 AM
Ha Ha Ha!!!.
Thank you for the video Dani and thank you for trying,i know it's noy an easy thing to do.
Manstopper is right in say that this dog is all go no show but i would have to say his wrong about the part about no show,in my opinion think Hun has lot's of show and so did the whole litter.
Can't wait to see what the go is going to be like.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 25, 2012, 05:44:09 AM
Sam what do you mean when you say the whole litter? Which aspect are we talking about, you got me curious now.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 25, 2012, 11:59:57 PM
Sam is impressed with the 'H' Ostschutz litter, in terms of there body type having some shape.. Similar to that mentioned such as Filou body type.!
OK but Hun is the only one in the litter with that body type/top line.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: hora on October 26, 2012, 04:56:03 AM
I believe that a truly representative male should be presented to the world, even if this means teaching him to pose. Although these dogs are not bred for show, they should be promoted so as people have a full image of this breed. Keeping a good dog in the backyard is not advisable, especially if we care about the direction the breed is taking.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 26, 2012, 05:14:54 AM
I believe that a truly representative male should be presented to the world, even if this means teaching him to pose. Although these dogs are not bred for show, they should be promoted so as people have a full image of this breed. Keeping a good dog in the backyard is not advisable, especially if we care about the direction the breed is taking.
The future of the breed it's not found in posing or in show stances, that's what most owners are doing and look at where things are at present time. Then again, I am not saying "no pose" at all, after all the show has a purpose of its own (one that was taken to an extreme, for personal ambitions and money) but I am just saying things are not moving around this element. "Show" the dog so the judge can judge it to be a dog that "looks" like a GS dog. And that's enough.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on October 26, 2012, 08:19:19 AM
for personal ambitions and money) Personal satisfaction...!
"Show" the dog so the judge can judge it to be a dog that "looks" like a GS dog. And that's enough.
40kg solid straight back, thick square legs paws, with square muzzle and strong underjaw;short to medium firm ears . Dark pigmentation and thick coat.. Most of all to have courage and hardness above 80%, this is a GS dog IMO...! Titus Pohranicini straze :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on October 26, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
I guess the croup has to be lower than the shoulder line but that was taken way out to extremes.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on November 02, 2012, 09:52:38 PM
Hello Dani,
Hun all so just like Briska did a good job on the sand.
Dani your right when you said that you think Briska is alittle more sharper than Hun, maybe time may prove otherwise.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 02, 2012, 11:12:34 PM
Dani your right when you said that you think Briska is alittle more sharper than Hun, maybe time may prove otherwise.
She is sharper because she is older. Hun is still young although he already has a good fight inside of him and like you said in time that will be more visible. Hun is closer to the old type of dog, in the sense that he is calmer but when he switches into watch mode he is a different dog. My next door neighbors did some roof work after heavy rains, just days ago and they could be seen from inside my yard and Hun jumped on top of the kennel to get to them with a nasty reaction and for seconds he kept going at them, by the time I got the camcorder to get it on video the workers were off the roof. Hun has the more civil touch but is a calm dog, that's why I see in him the old type.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on November 02, 2012, 11:26:14 PM
EXCELLENT!!!.
That's what i like to hear.
Hopefuly you will have the complete German Shepherd one day,temperment and look's.
This is a very difficult thing to achieve,character alone is difficult to achieve let alone the complete package.
Regards Sam.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 02, 2012, 11:31:34 PM
Hopefuly you will have the complete German Shepherd one day,temperment and look's.
This is a very difficult thing to achieve,character alone is difficult to achieve let alone the complete package.
Regards Sam.
Very well said Sam! Striking gold doesn't happen that easily as we know. Ben, my first GS dog was an extremely sharp dog, when he was only 6 months old I had the first real bite case, with the bloke who got bit being sent to my residence to see that the dog was shot for Rabies (following doctor's advice). He wasn't that thick but just fine in terms of build. To me, that was the "perfect" GS dog.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 04, 2012, 09:38:23 AM
A 3a sesiune, scurta si la subiect. L-am lasat legat in fatza casei unui vecin si am filmat de la distanta, sa fie singurel apoi am traversat strada si m-am apropiat sa prind un cadru mai bun. Nu i-am main pus hamul si in felul asta l-am cam strangulat dar merge, cateva secunde acolo... Sunt multumit de el, cat l-am lasat singur a stat relaxat, si-a marcat teritoriul, n-a avut niciun stres. O s-o tin in sesiuni de-astea scurte iar peste cateva saptamani trecem si la muscat. Cum spuneam, Briska va lua o pauza pana prin Ianuarie. S-au uitat cei din zona mai stramb la mine dar le trece :lol:
Third agitation session for Hun, evening quick session, left by himself in front of a neighbor's house for a few minutes and then had my friend making a move. I am glad with Hun's reaction, he was relaxed when alone, marked his territory and then he responded accordingly to my friend's move.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqlxLasfS3k
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 04, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Ah, cat imi place reactia lui! Se comporta super, chiar si cand nu esti langa el. Nu a dat nici macar jumatate de pas inapoi!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 04, 2012, 10:12:59 AM
Hun is displaying really good confidence and the seriousness is there, he moves forward with nice bark and rythym.. I like also how we can see his character when alone, marking his area and very observant with no sign of concern or worries.. Just like to say that possibly the session could of been shorter, and maybe next time get another aggitator.. I would say no more than 10 seconds to strengthen his confidence to be more defensive/civil.. Just a suggestion.. :) All the best in the next couple of months with Hun's training, he's a great dog..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 04, 2012, 10:32:37 AM
Hun is displaying really good confidence and the seriousness is there, he moves forward with nice bark and rythym.. I like also how we can see his character when alone, marking his area and very observant with no sign of concern or worries..
Yes sir, he is making positive good steps!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on November 04, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
Se comporta bine, are si un latrat gros, deci e bas. :)
Cate sesiuni faci pe saptamana?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on November 04, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
Am re-vizionat filmarea, imi place la nebunie!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 04, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
I like also how we can see his character when alone, marking his area and very observant with no sign of concern or worries..
Yes, that's why I got this on video, I wanted to document his behavior and needless to say it was great to note him marking the territory and being confident when provoked.
Just like to say that possibly the session could of been shorter, and maybe next time get another aggitator.. I would say no more than 10 seconds to strengthen his confidence to be more defensive/civil.. Just a suggestion.. :)
Actually the session was longer but I didn't get it on video; I walked out of my yard and stopped a few meters away from Andi (my friend) and waited for a few seconds. Without any movement from Andi, Hun started to bark at him and then I gave Andi the sign to approach with provoking moves but the point is, Hun had a go without being provoked which I like. After that we did the bit you see on video, with Hun being left alone in that place and I crossed the street to get the video. I am really content with Hun's overall behavior, he is a calm dof but responds well when provoked. Yeah.. I may shorten the sessions in the future... Maybe get to bitework sometime in December or January.. we'll see, based on the reaction I see.
Dani keep getting some of that footage happening, the last one was great in the street before sunset it looks..
Funny you mention that, I am actually thinking about doing a bit of bite work later and have my girlfriend videotaping but we'll see.. No agitation with a stranger this week, I think I want to insert some space in between these sessions so he doesn't fall into routine and switch to prey kind'a thing..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on November 09, 2012, 08:42:09 PM
No agitation with a stranger this week, I think I want to insert some space in between these sessions so he doesn't fall into routine and switch to prey kind'a thing..
In the late 80's when i used to view the training at Von Forell, it used to be a Sunday afternoon at the open parks..With mainly GSD and several Dobermans and Rottie's tuning up and doing there good old routine.. With 3 or 4 dogs right at the very end were the more advanced dogs.. Later on was to find out that "less" training is "MORE" effective.. Its up to the owner/trainer in reading the individual dog (genetics) to what amount of sessions is best..
With Casso from the age of 7 months to current age 30 months he has had under 8 sessions of aggitation in 4 or 5 locations/scenario's.. Like every 10 weeks on average.. Its a fine line between building and destroying, so less is more in my books and like i said, each dog is an individual and those hardcore dogs probally only need a dozen bite sessions in a whole lifetime...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on November 09, 2012, 11:33:36 PM
Its up to the owner/trainer in reading the individual dog (genetics) to what amount of sessions is best..
I totally agree with that and John was just saying the very same thing to me yesterday; you got take each dog as an individual and adjust training to it. If it's SPORT you got in mind then yes, start from an early age and get that pup/dog crazy about the equipment but otherwise stick to well planned, short but serious sessions. I guess the point being to stage some real life scenarios and that doesn't happen everyday you go out for a walk.
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Its a fine line between building and destroying, so less is more in my books and like i said, each dog is an individual and those hardcore dogs probally only need a dozen bite sessions in a whole lifetime...
Hmm.. I tend to believe that once you've passed certain stages and you're at a point where you know the dog is "ready" for action, then it doesn't really matter how many sessions you go for, if the dog ha "it", he has "it"; in other words if the fight is in it, then you're set for its remaining days of strength. Think of the service dogs who are out on the streets a few days a week - if they got what it takes to be good street dogs then action is stamped right between their eyes. :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on December 04, 2012, 06:41:21 AM
A iesit bine in primele doua poze, zici ca e unul de ala care se misca mai incet, dar vine sa dea peste tine.
Hun nu are reactia explozia cu care ne obisnuiesc multi din caini din forum, dar Hun nu a tacut deloc in prezenta a 4 vizitatori, asta si vreau sa vad la el, nativ, fara sa fie agitat deloc. In timp ce altii nu-i vad partile bune, iar asta nu doar ca individ, eu le vad. Pozele-s facute in afara curtii. Cine stie ce sa citeasca ce am spus, sa citeasca si sa bage la cap.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on January 15, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
Unii caini lasa impresia ca sunt tepeni printr-o reactie de asta exploziva, cum o numesti tu, dar daca sunt pusi in situatii incomode cred ca crizele se mai potolesc.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on January 15, 2013, 03:24:14 PM
Unii caini lasa impresia ca sunt tepeni printr-o reactie de asta exploziva, cum o numesti tu, dar daca sunt pusi in situatii incomode cred ca crizele se mai potolesc.
Iezact. Si.. sunt destui.. dar ma rog, hai sa fiu sportiv.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: fabius.m on January 25, 2013, 04:19:00 AM
ce capatana are
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on January 30, 2013, 05:25:00 AM
Eu ma refer la toate pozele, alea imi plac cel mai mult.
Sincer.. si mie
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on February 03, 2013, 06:36:15 AM
Sunt FOARTE multumit de Hun in paza, este foarte vigilent si pe masura ce trece timpul parca i se accentueaza reactia si, daca e adevarat ca DDR-ul se coace mai greu, inseamna ca urmeaza sa vad crema. In fine.. vreau doar sa subliniez ca sunt foarte multumit de el. Abia astept sa incepem antrenamentele.. o sa postez un clipuletz de la locul de work out.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on February 03, 2013, 06:41:02 AM
Banuiesc ca in primavara o sa dati drumul la treaba...
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on February 03, 2013, 06:43:09 AM
Banuiesc ca in primavara o sa dati drumul la treaba...
Acusica in Februarie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5fo2OV4EOk
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on February 04, 2013, 03:32:39 PM
Dani how is Huns training going in protection work ?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on February 05, 2013, 12:10:30 AM
Not taking place as yet, we were supposed to start the actual bite session but the decoy couldn't make it. I will be making photos anyway so you will see his progress. But for the time being, as far as yard watch/guarding, Hun is outstanding.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on February 05, 2013, 01:45:30 AM
Good to see Hun having an aggitation session, I like the last photo capturing the wide open mouth and body posture..
Actually this time we went for the first bite (just two quick/short bites) but technology didn't help us capturing the moment. Hun is man focused, I told the helper to drop the sleeve as soon as Hun bites but Hun did the same, did not "stay" on the sleeve but went for the helper right after.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 01, 2013, 08:20:37 AM
Prietenul meu Andi a facut 25 de ani de rugby asa ca-i place miscarea, i-am pus mansonul pe mana si am facut miscare cu Hun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVYV5mf1V94
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on March 01, 2013, 08:24:15 AM
Hehe, ce fain va distrati voi acolo!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 01, 2013, 08:51:20 AM
O sa ne distram din ce in ce mai bine ca acum e si vremea mai buna. Voi reveni cu actualizari video si pt Hun peste cateva saptamani.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on March 01, 2013, 09:15:22 AM
Bravo, imi place cum se descurca Hun ;)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 01, 2013, 09:16:31 AM
Care maraie acolo, ca muzica ma induce in eroare? :lol:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 01, 2013, 09:17:24 AM
:grin: am bagat muzica pt ca ma enerva vocea mea, dadeam indicatii de pe margine..
da sunt multumit, l-am pus pe Andi sa dea in el, tine gagiul, doar ca trebuie sa imbunatatim priza.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 04, 2013, 08:43:22 AM
Hun is doing excellent for minimal training sessions, displays plenty of confidence and ready for the challenge. Also like the music that you have chosen for this video, and more so the other family video... With Ozzy Osbourne soundtrack, takes me back to the High School days in the 80's, when there were more serious Old School dogs around.. :rockon:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 04, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
Hehe.. yeah.. the old days... Yes Hun enjoys the action, he doesn't display the typical "bad boy" reaction and such but he's definitely in for conflict, I asked my friend to actually hit him during the bite, Hun is up for it all the way. I did not actually get it on video but he performed a long bite too and yes, this is barely the second session and man he likes the action. You will definitely see more of Hun in the months to come.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 10:08:39 AM
Am zis ca nu mai filmez o perioada dar nu m-am putut abtine :cheesy: Antrenament cu Hun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b42Jex5Y5_Q
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 08, 2013, 10:19:15 AM
Musca bine Hun.
Cam cate kg are? Vad ca atentatorul il "poarta" destul de usor. Ziceai ca face rugby?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
Cam cate kg are? Vad ca atentatorul il "poarta" destul de usor. Ziceai ca face rugby?
Musca FOARTE bine Hun; vino la CT la vara si mergem la un antrenament. Mai ce sa zic.. trebuie sa-l cantaresc ca sa pot da un raspuns corect. Da Andi are 25 de ani de rugby in spate si e si tamplar, deci e obisnuit cu lucrul fizic. Sunt foarte multumit de Hun!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 08, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Da, imi place ca nu ramane fix pe manson - nu ma refer la scuturat.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
Cum spuneam si anticipam prin prisma jucatului cu perna premergatoare lucrului pe manson, are priza beton.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: huby on March 08, 2013, 12:10:28 PM
mi ar placea un film la manson de aproape. as vrea sa te concentrezi la capul cainelui in film ... asa pentru sufletul meu :cheesy: sunt anumite lucruri care imi plac sa le vad la un caine si din distanta filmarii nu imi dau seama exact daca sunt acolo imi place cainele, consider ca este in crestere in sensul ca este genul de caine care copilareste mai mult.
I would like to see a close up on the head during a bite session.. it would make my day.. I like noticing certain things in a dog and when footage is taken from a distance I can't really tell much. I like the dog, I consider him to be still developing in the way that he is a type of dog who's childish for longer period of time
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 12:32:05 PM
Filmarea e facuta cu telefonul de un prieten, care nu se pricepe la asa ceva. Oricum, filmari am sa tot fac, am motivele mele.
The footage was taken by phone, used by a friend who's not into filming and such. Anyway, there will be plenty video clips, I got my reasons to do that.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 12:42:49 PM
consider ca este in crestere in sensul ca este genul de caine care copilareste mai mult. I consider him to be still developing in the way that he is a type of dog who's childish for longer period of time
Nu stiu ce anume te-a determinat sa spui asta, dar.. Hun este caine de linie DDR; se tot vorbeste pe net ca tipul DDR se maturizeaza mai lent. Pt multi, afirmatia asta e frectie pe picior de lemn; eu nu am vrut sa ma pronunt decat in momentul in care am pe mana caine DDR. Intradevar Hun s-a maturizat "lent" in opinia mea si inca mai are drum de parcurs in privinta asta.
I don't know what made you say that but.. Hun is a DDR dog; it's been said many times that DDR dogs mature slow. To many, that is crap talk; I held my thoughts in place until I actually had some DDR dogs so I can get hands on. Indeed I would say Hun matured slow and there's more to cover.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: huby on March 08, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
Nu stiu ce anume te-a determinat sa spui asta, dar.. Hun este caine de linie DDR; se tot vorbeste pe net ca tipul DDR se maturizeaza mai lent. Pt multi, afirmatia asta e frectie pe picior de lemn; eu nu am vrut sa ma pronunt decat in momentul in care am pe mana caine DDR. Intradevar Hun s-a maturizat "lent" in opinia mea si inca mai are drum de parcurs in privinta asta.
am urmarit filmele si am ajuns la concluzia asta. sunt multi caini care se maturizeaza mai greu. multi crescatori evita genul asta de caine, personal cred ca daca ai rabdare cu genul asta de caine atingi la cel mai inalt nivel indiferent de directia alesa. personal urmaresc deja puii sa vad daca o sa ne inrudim la un moment dat. sper ca ma primesti si pe mine la un antrenament intr o zi.
I watched the videos you posted in time and that's how I reached this conclusion. Many breeders avoid this type of dog, I for one believe that if you got patience to go with breeding these dogs you get the highest results regarding of the goal. I am monitoring the pups Hun produced to see if maybe we can arrange a breeding project. I hope you can count me in for a training session at some point.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 01:04:57 PM
:)
La un antrenament desigur; cu inruditul lucrez doar pe linie DDR, este directia luata de mine cu ceva timp in urma.
Revenind la aspectul maturizare lenta - am citit / m-am documentat mult, foarte mult (pe parcursul a 3 ani ce putin) inainte de a alege liniile estice (cu precadere DDR) si am citit clar, in comunitati online gen Leerburg ca, intradevar liniile DDR se "coc" mai greu, nu toate, dar majoritatea. Recent, tot din dialoguri online, am inteles ca se aplica si in liniile vestice. Depinde cat de bine cunosti liniile in parte. Nu ma intereseaza ca se "coace" cainele mai lent, atata timp cat sunt multumit de rezultatul final.
Voi traduce pt ca stiu ca topicul lui Hun este urmarit din mai multe patratele de pe glob.
Sure, you're more than welcome to join a training session, but as far as breeding, I only go DDR. Now, back to talking slow maturing; I spent long time (more than 3 years) just getting info on the various bloodlines and ultimately decided east bloodlines (DDR particularly) are closer to the old type dog and I read in several online communities, such as Leerburg that, DDR bloodlines mature slow indeed; not all but most. Recently I came to learn that it applies to west lines as well, one just needs to know the bloodlines well. I don't mind the slow maturing process as long as the final outcome is worth it.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 08, 2013, 01:05:20 PM
Parca John spunea ca unii caini se maturizeaza dupa ce ating varsta de trei ani.
I think it was John saying that some dogs reach adulthood at the age of 3.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: huby on March 08, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
la inrudire m am referit la monta. nu o sa il imperchezi cu femele care nu apartin viziunii tale?
I meant dog breeding. Will you not breed bitches that do not match your goals, to Hun?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 01:12:34 PM
Parca John spunea ca unii caini se maturizeaza dupa ce ating varsta de trei ani.
Din ce inteleg si eu de la altii, respectiv ce-mi mai spune si Dux care a avut multi caini pe mana, cam pe la 3 ani chiar 4 ating maturitatea. Dar unele exemplare arata instincte puternice inca de la 6, 7 luni de viatza. Cu Ben am avut primul caz de muscatura cu mers la medic si prezentat carnetul de vaccinari al cainelui cand avea 6 luni.. sau 7, nu mai tin minte, sincer. Ideea e ca, daca vrei caine pt lucru de politie, inteleg ca e de dorit ca animalul sa se "coaca" cat mai repede. Dar acum depinde.. de mai multe, de linia genetica, de asteptari.. astea doua sunt primele care imi vin in minte.
From what I get from others, such as Dux, who's seen many a dog, most dogs would reach adulthood at about 3, even 4 years. But some individuals will show sharp instincts from as early as 6 months, Ben was 6 or 7 months when he had his first real serious bite. Now, if you want a police service dog, I can understand why you would want the drives to kick in quicker... But you got to consider a few things I guess, such as bloodline and individual expectations - those are the top two that come to mind.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
la inrudire m am referit la monta. nu o sa il imperchezi cu femele care nu apartin viziunii tale?
Da, la monta m-am referit si eu :) Da, numai cu femele DDR il voi monta sau, voi face exceptie cu femele din anumite linii cehesti. La ce catea te gandesti cand vorbesti de "inrudire"?
Sure, dog breeding was what I meant, too. Indeed, I will only breed Hun to DDR bitches; I may make some exceptions in the case of bitches of certain CZ bloodlines.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 08, 2013, 01:23:07 PM
Cu Ben am avut primul caz de muscatura cu mers la medic si prezentat carnetul de vaccinari al cainelui cand avea 6 luni.. sau 7, nu mai tin minte, sincer.
Banuiesc ca nu l-ai agitat cu carpa de mic. :lol:
I presume you didn't do any rag agitation with him as a pup.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 08, 2013, 01:25:20 PM
Are si instinct de lupta si instinct de prada, nu e moale. Imi place Hun. ;)
The best is yet to come, cred.. ;) Da, am mai spus-o si eu, are inst de lupta "prezent".
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Catalin on March 19, 2013, 09:32:18 AM
Prima oara cand am vazut o asemenea priza la crengi,am vazut la Steve. Acum, vad si la Hun.Pentru mine e o priza deosebita pe care sper ca si Igor sa o faca.Prin alegerea lui Hun,s-a vazut ochiul tau de profesionist,deoarece s-a demonstrat ca este un caine deosebit si complet.Sa-ti traiasca!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 09:58:34 AM
Multumesc pt cuvintele de apreciere. Desi pe Hun l-au muscat (indirect, se intelege) multi de ceureu, acei "multi" au de invatat cate ceva daca urmaresc evolutia lui si a progeniturilor lui. Nu e exclus ca unii sa nu vada calitate in ceea ce promovez eu si asta nu e o problema. Multumesc din nou pt feedback, vei vedea mai multe inregistrari cu Hun. Nu vad de ce n-ar putea Igor sa faca treaba asta, eventual doar greutatea sa-i stea in cale.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Catalin on March 19, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Multumesc pt cuvintele de apreciere. Desi pe Hun l-au muscat (indirect, se intelege) multi de ceureu, acei "multi" au de invatat cate ceva daca urmaresc evolutia lui si a progeniturilor lui. Nu e exclus ca unii sa nu vada calitate in ceea ce promovez eu si asta nu e o problema. Multumesc din nou pt feedback, vei vedea mai multe inregistrari cu Hun. Nu vad de ce n-ar putea Igor sa faca treaba asta, eventual doar greutatea sa-i stea in cale.
Cainii latra,ursul trece!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 10:58:00 AM
Prima oara cand am vazut o asemenea priza la crengi,am vazut la Steve. Acum, vad si la Hun.Pentru mine e o priza deosebita pe care sper ca si Igor sa o faca.
fara numar :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iZbjHIoVU
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on March 20, 2013, 07:06:18 AM
:rockon: Eu nu mai pot sa-l ridic asa pe Manto! :hi:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 20, 2013, 07:09:36 AM
Planuiam sa-i cantaresc pe toti azi gandindu-ma ca la vet dau de cantar dar n-a fost sa fie. Nu e un caine foarte greu, fatza de ceilalti masculi din cuib el e ceva mai subtire, eu zic ca are undeva intre 36-40 kg.
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Ce moaca de Venus are in poza asta!
Ce le vezi! La asta ma gandeam si eu mai devreme.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 05:42:18 AM
Am avut altceva in plan dar a trebuit sa lasam pe saptamana viitoare, antrenamentul asta l-am facut mai pe fuga. Cred ca Hun e mai greu decat banuiesc eu, Andi a avut ceva probleme la capitolul fortza, el e de parere ca are 40 k. Off the record - ma gandeam sa pun muzica de fundal sa nu imi mai aud vocea dar am lasat cu sunetul original special pt prototype.
Well, distractie cat cuprinde..
We initially had something different in plan but we had to change plans and so we did this session on a run. I believe Hun is heavier than I thought, Andi fiund it rather hard to work him, he thinks Hun weighs at least 40 k. Off the record - I wanted to add some background music so my voice can't be heard but I decided to live it like that as prototype requested before.
Well, fun all the way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82AjUX5XayU
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on March 22, 2013, 06:11:21 AM
:bravo: Hun! Face treaba faina!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 22, 2013, 06:17:41 AM
Huns doing really well, he seems to be totally comfortable on the sleeve and not phased being challenged. Good to see him re bite and working on a full mouth grip. He wouldn't be too far in working on a bite suit..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:24:54 AM
He wouldn't be too far in working on a bite suit..
Well thought and said mate, next thing up is hidden sleeve and bite suit. Yeah he didn't get a full grip initially but didn't move it as I told my friend to keep pulling up towards his chest that sleeve, just to have constant stress on Hun. What i love most about Hun is he really loves the fight, the more you challenge him, the more motivated he seems to be.. I really like that about him.
Off the record - ma gandeam sa pun muzica de fundal sa nu imi mai aud vocea dar am lasat cu sunetul original special pt prototype.
Multam! :beer:
E mai frumos asa clipul. Mai auzi un marait al cainelui, un sunet scos de atentator. Cum s-ar spune, e mai naturala treaba.
Pozele, fa fel, imi plac sa fie nelucrate.
Fetele si ele, imi plac cat mai naturale. Cu cat au mai multe kg de fond de ten pe fata, cu atat sunt mai urate si cu cat au mai putine kg vopsea pe unghii, e mai bine. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
Se comporta foarte frumos, are circulatia buna in nuci! :lol: Dupa latrat, n-ai zice ca are o asa atitudine cand e vorba de muscat.
Da, de la un timp are latratul mai "subtire", latra in schimb gros cand e vorba de paza in curte.[/quote]
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E mai frumos asa clipul. Mai auzi un marait al cainelui, un sunet scos de atentator. Cum s-ar spune, e mai naturala treaba.
Da.. asa este, doar ca ma enerveaza propria mea voce si de-aia folosesc muzici sa astup...
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Fetele si ele, imi plac cat mai naturale. Cu cat au mai multe kg de fond de ten pe fata, cu atat sunt mai urate si cu cat au mai putine kg vopsea pe unghii, e mai bine. :)
:grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on March 22, 2013, 06:34:45 AM
lucreaza frumos, imi plac antrenamentele mai "dure" ;) sa faci si ceva cu botnita cand ai timp
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 22, 2013, 06:36:26 AM
Well thought and said mate, next thing up is hidden sleeve and bite suit. Yeah he didn't get a full grip initially but didn't move it as I told my friend to keep pulling up towards his chest that sleeve, just to have constant stress on Hun. What i love most about Hun is he really loves the fight, the more you challenge him, the more motivated he seems to be.. I really like that about him.Da, i-am mai dat o bulina rosie. :cool:
He has plenty of drive and desire to fight and I can't see him having a problem on hidden sleeve and suit. I like the idea also how he was worked on the concrete platform, different surfaces and area are always of benefit.. So he's 40 kg- that's perfect weight..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:39:07 AM
Eu ma refeream ca nu are un latrat de ala exploziv, ci mai domol, asa.
Hun nu are reactie sau "timbru" de bad boy, e diferenta intre el si Briska (de exemplu) mare. In schimb lui ii place contactul in sine. Imi place ca "raspunde" pozitiv la provocari de oricare or fi ele. L-am pus sa sara peste o barca acum cateva zile, a facut-o gen floare la ureche. O sa mai postez un clip scurt, l-am pus pe Andi sa-l loveasca cu bidonul in moaca sa vad ce face.
Hun does not have a "bad boy" bark stamp, his is way different to Briska's, for example. But then he loves the actual contact. I love it that he responds well to any challenge, I had him jump over a boat a few days ago and he did it like it was piece of cake. I will post another short video, i had Andi hit him in the face with the bottle.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:40:14 AM
I like the idea also how he was worked on the concrete platform, different surfaces and area are always of benefit.. So he's 40 kg- that's perfect weight..
Yeah I try and use various locations.. Man I could be wrong, he may be over 40.. eventually I will just have to weigh him, as opposed to keeping guessing :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:43:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTNU4IO_ivA
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:47:23 AM
Pai dure sa fie.. ori suntem golani ori nu mai suntem :cheesy:
corect :grin:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 22, 2013, 06:52:00 AM
Its good that he was rewarded with biting the object, I believe he will do well with having several items to bite. If they are placed in a small surface area, he can focus on helper and ready for the challenge..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:56:26 AM
What can i say man.. even from early days when I first had Hun back in FL, after playing with him with a rope just for a minute or two, I knew this pup would have a good bite and perform some good work in training. I guess these days I am reaping the fruits, as they say ;) John knew very well why Hun was for me.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 22, 2013, 07:06:46 AM
John must be more than happy to see Hun working and showing early poitive signs, and you are reaping in the rewards now and more in the future with genetics...!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 07:07:59 AM
John must be more than happy to see Hun working and showing early poitive signs, and you are reaping in the rewards now and more in the future with genetics...!
Oh yes, there will be more to come.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 23, 2013, 08:55:52 AM
Pe masura ce inainteaza in varsta ma multumeste din ce in ce mai mult. In plus, incepe sa semene cu Ben cu miscarile alea in tzarc.. ma rog, asta e o chestie mai mult sentimentala decat altele. A inceput si Nala sa join the gang..
PS - unele filmari le fac doar pt noi aici in forum, sunt nelistate public, va rog nu postati in alte parti.
The more he matures the better I like what I see. As an extra element, he's begining to remind me of Ben with those movements in the kennel but I guess that's to do with emtotional value more than anything else. Nala has also started to join the gang.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDtdcEp8jE
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 23, 2013, 09:01:30 AM
Hehe... my 2013 DDR gang.. :beer:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on March 23, 2013, 09:03:36 AM
Ce latrat gros !
That's some low pitch bark!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 23, 2013, 09:04:39 AM
Have you considered having Hun conditioned to be on own in Kennel to build on his independent character?
Reg, he's going to spend a lot of time on his own in the coming months. Anyway, it's part of the plan to do that too, plus various scenarios where he can get as close to reality experience as possible. In the following months I will put more and more pressure on him.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on March 24, 2013, 02:15:28 AM
Its a good idea I feel for a dog to be on own in kennel, from early stages in my view. And the new scenarios will build him up nicely, especially those nights after midnight..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on March 24, 2013, 03:01:45 AM
Its a good idea I feel for a dog to be on own in kennel, from early stages in my view. And the new scenarios will build him up nicely, especially those nights after midnight..
Oh yeah, night work is on the list as well :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 04:18:30 AM
Hello Dani, Hun is coming up very well,looking at the latest footage's that you have posted of him i can see he has a very firm grip on just about anything bite's.
Dani,just cuirious to know as to whether it is compilsory in your country to have your dog's x-rayed in order to register a litter of pupy's?.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:10:32 AM
Dani,just cuirious to know as to whether it is compilsory in your country to have your dog's x-rayed in order to register a litter of pupy's?.
Not yet but I believe soon it will be the case. With our without mandatory requirements for registering pups, I x-ray my dogs anyway, my major concern is their health, not club requirements.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 07:23:15 AM
Dani what score do Hun and Briska have on Hip Elbows ? Or is scored with pass or fail..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:29:50 AM
Dani what score do Hun and Briska have on Hip Elbows ?
Reg I will not that within the next few months. To be honest I am not concerned much at all, these dogs move like MR O of the k9 division. You should see Hun jumping over a boat without even touching it.. I will try and get that on video. I am in a season in my life where I need to invest in a lot of things so I need the right timing to get the HD/ED job done.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 07:35:10 AM
Sure all will be positive and may they have that spring about them for many years to come. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:41:07 AM
I waited many years and I learned as much as I could, before turning to action.
If one fails to plan then one plans to fail is the saying. I have faith in your approach Dani and will power Keep it up man..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:57:10 AM
Thank you man, I learned from the best and I can only hope I can be of good service to the breed, ALL because of the impact Ben had had on me. Thank you, those are kind words.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 24, 2013, 05:13:48 AM
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: spider on April 26, 2013, 08:02:50 PM
Foarte tare Hun! Ce aliura, ce atitudine...super! Ce tata frumos are Bero (Hans) al meu! ;) Super pozele! Tot ultima mi se pare si mie ca...transmite foarte multa "informatie". O poza bine facuta face mai mult decat un scurt metraj. :) Si inca o data ma vad nevoit sa zic...BRAVO!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on April 26, 2013, 09:17:16 PM
Se vede o maturizare prin expresia fetei.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on April 26, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
Super, arata foarte bine!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 26, 2013, 11:40:16 PM
Da, ultima poza imi place enorm, aseara am stat cateva minute holbandu-ma la ea si, cand ma gandesc ca e inca tanar si mai are de pus pe el, imi traverseaza circuitul o serie de endorfine.. :cool:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on April 27, 2013, 01:59:06 AM
Cred ca se va bucura! Ce cap fain are si in poza asta, imi place cum "rasare" din iarba! Si merge de minune negrul lui cu verdele crud. :)
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Sorin on May 03, 2013, 12:44:08 AM
c-am cate kg are, l-ai cantarit?
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: VINCENT on May 03, 2013, 03:33:06 AM
Are cel putin 40, dupa parerea mea.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 03, 2013, 05:22:04 AM
Nu l-am cantarit inca.
De ziua lui, o filmare in care imi arata determinare. Voi face o filmare cu camera profi data viitoare si dintr-o pozitie din care sa se vada mai bine dealul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew9AtK_tXeE
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on May 03, 2013, 05:27:38 AM
Ce falcute frumoase are in primele secunde ale filmarii! Parca zambeste acolo! :cheesy:
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: guest on May 03, 2013, 05:27:58 AM
Imi place ce face gagiul!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: prototype on May 03, 2013, 05:31:55 AM
Tu de ziua lui il pui la munca? In loc sa-i faci un tort, confeti, chestii, treburi cum face orice iubitor de Ciobanesc German... :hello: Am vrut sa zic de mult: ce stil de-a tine coada are, asa indoita.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: lars on May 03, 2013, 08:07:46 AM
La multi ani!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: spider on May 03, 2013, 09:54:23 AM
Deci.....2 ani?! Bravoooooo! LA MULTI ANI! Sa traiasca mult si ...bine!
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: Man Stopper on May 03, 2013, 10:09:54 AM
Hun has that inborn detemination..
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 03, 2013, 10:26:41 AM
Multam frumos pt urare!
Yes mate, he's got some determination I tell you.. I will make some more intense videos in the future, this dog has got a lot to offer.
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on May 03, 2013, 12:19:41 PM
Putina distractie de seara :cheesy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUSX10_v0D0
Title: Re: Hun vom Ostschutz DDR
Post by: ben on August 23, 2013, 11:43:54 AM