Post by: Man Stopper on July 19, 2010, 05:03:25 PM
He is at the moment showing some defensive reaction to strangers and enjoys ball retrieval.. Very quick learner and am expecting very good outcome because of genetics, also massive bone and solid Bi Colour body..
Parintii lui Casso sunt K9 Mad Maxx, iar mama e sora de cuib a lui Yultzen Diesel care poate fi vazut pe database.
Momentan Casso arata instinct de aparare bun fatza de unii straini si ii place sa aporteze mingiutza.. Invata f repede si am asteptari mari datorita geneticii, de asemenea oase puernice si asoect bi-color intens
Pedigree - http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/668076.html (http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/668076.html)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/MAXPUPS041JPG.jpg)
Yultzen Diesel
(http://cdn.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/658618.jpg)
(http://www.mindfreakkennels.com.au/dieselanimation.gif)
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2010, 11:41:03 PM
Reg I am glad it sounds like you got what you were looking for! All the best in the future, with Casso!
He has indeed a very strong and expressive head, very masculin. Love that classic bi-color look also..
Thank you for taking time to get the picture done :D
Ce cap puternic are Diesel!![/color]
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2010, 11:56:23 PM
That dog reminds me of some of the dogs I've seen in the early 90's.. [youtube:3tut1cfy]Lzwljz4T348[/youtube:3tut1cfy]
Post by: Leo Pui on July 20, 2010, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Reg correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this Casso's sire..? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Post by: Man Stopper on July 20, 2010, 01:20:32 AM
The mother Yultzen Maxine is the "litter" sister of Yultzen Diesel..
Would have to say that i am more then happy so far..
Tatal lui Casso e Mad Maxx, care e de asemenea tatal lui Onyx..
Mama, Yultzen Maxine, e sora de cuib cu Yultzen Diesel
Trebuie sa spun ca pana in prezent sunt mai mult decat multumit..
Post by: zimbris on July 20, 2010, 01:25:44 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Sire of Casso is Mad Maxx, who is also the sire of Onyx..
The mother Yultzen Maxine is the "litter" sister of Yultzen Diesel..
Yep, got that right
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Would have to say that i am more then happy so far..
that is great news man... we all saw how careful you have been in choosing this pup so it's great to know you're (even) more than happy so far!!
asta e super.. cu totii am vazut cu cata atentie ai analizat cuibul asta si ne bucuram ca esti multumit de alegerea facuta, pana in prezent!
Post by: Man Stopper on July 20, 2010, 01:40:39 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 20, 2010, 01:48:28 AM
Now, you know what we will be expecting of you ;)
Si tu la randul tau ai propriul set de principii si asta e super, pt ca nu te vei multumii cu mai putin decat "bun" sau "foarte bun".
Bun, acum stii ce vom vrea noi in viitor ;)
Post by: guest on July 20, 2010, 02:00:09 AM
Hope you'll keep us up with Casso's evolution.
Sper ca ne vei tine la curent cu evolutia lui Casso.
Post by: kangdanlin on July 20, 2010, 02:14:45 AM
i also like MAD MAx :D, imi place f mult
Post by: Man Stopper on July 20, 2010, 04:14:44 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 20, 2010, 04:18:32 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Thanks all for the positive comments, and more pics to come i'm sure.. ;)
Post by: bobo70 on July 20, 2010, 08:24:48 AM
Un caine foarte frumos dintr-un tata super
Post by: zimbris on July 20, 2010, 08:50:22 AM
Quote from: "Leo Pui"
Quote from: "Man Stopper"Casso is from K9 Mad Maxx and the Dam is litter sister to Yultzen Diesel who can be viewed on data base..:mrgreen: :lol: Thanks Leo, you are truly vigilent
Post by: zimbris on July 25, 2010, 08:37:26 AM
What's the catch on the third one...? :lol:
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/CASSO038.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/CASSO031.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/CASSO036.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on July 25, 2010, 08:45:28 AM
abia astept sa vad niste poze dupa ce i se ridica urechile
Post by: Man Stopper on July 25, 2010, 08:58:37 AM
in a 3a poza am vrut sa se vada pieptul lui Casso, stil Schwartzenegger.. :lol: :devil:
Post by: zimbris on July 25, 2010, 09:02:22 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on July 25, 2010, 09:16:03 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 25, 2010, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
No doubting his DDR look a like strength, although in comparrisson to Onyx at same age for sharpeness, I'd have to say he's not that defensive/suspicious towards strangers, but am probaly expecting too much too early..I think most of us are tempted to do that...
Post by: Man Stopper on July 28, 2010, 01:19:14 AM
Am very pleased with him at the moment..
Post by: guest on July 28, 2010, 01:27:10 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on July 28, 2010, 02:25:59 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 28, 2010, 02:54:57 AM
Casso are intr-adevar un piept f adanc. Ii dai drumul sa se poata juca cu alti caini..?
Post by: Man Stopper on July 28, 2010, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Casso has indeed a very deep chest. Do you let him loose so he could play with other dogs..?
Casso are intr-adevar un piept f adanc. Ii dai drumul sa se poata juca cu alti caini..?
Dani i cannot believe the size of Casso, considering he has average parents... Proves that genetics works in mysterious ways, which i feel most breeders overlook when matching a worthy mating pair.. In regards to playing with dogs, well that footage was Casso's first introduction to canines in the busy city..
And he shows aggressive behaviour towards other dogs i have noticed, something which i should moderately correct..
Post by: guest on July 28, 2010, 09:53:49 AM
Ar fi indicat sa-l lasi liber sa se joace cu alti caini. Nu cred ca este agresiv, doar se joaca mai dur. Si Tara era la fel cand era mica, majoritatea proprietarilor de pui cu care intra in contact se speriau si spuneau ca e agresiva,dupa modul dur de joaca. Si-a pastrat acest obicei si dupa ce-a crescut, dar nu mi-am facut probleme.
Post by: Man Stopper on July 28, 2010, 10:44:16 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 28, 2010, 11:16:29 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
I just dont feel it would benefit Casso, as my main concern would be him getting treated roughly from bigger dogs.. This then resulting in long term psycological issues as well as possibly effecting him physically (hips/elbows).. But your right he just wants to play, but not really comfortable from other dogs/owners unfortunately..
I know what you mean, had a similar experience with Ben. But what I'm thinking of is, playing with pups closer to his age, I am pretty sure that will help
Just let him loose in the presence of young pups, it also gives you yet another opportunity to analyze his behavior...Stiu ce zici, am avut o experienta asemanatoare cu Ben. Dar eu ma refeream la joaca cu catei de aceeasi varsta (mai mult sau mai putin). Lasa-l liber in prezenta altor catei de varsta lui, asta iti da si ocazia sa-l mai analizezi putin..
Post by: Man Stopper on July 28, 2010, 05:10:02 PM
If it is in regards to dominance, well he shows very forward reaction when he sees other dogs, by tail going up like a big hook and growling like a Lion
I guess that i am applying the same raising methods as i did with Onyx, only that this time round am doing more early socializing with Casso, and hope that all this socializng pays off... Was just thinking of Santos/Bogdan and was wondering what approach they have when raising young pups ?
Post by: zimbris on July 28, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
Post by: guest on July 29, 2010, 03:54:10 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Analyzing his behaviour wold be an extra element, I'm talking socialization first and foremost; no direct contact with other pups / dogs could potentially lead to unwanted aggression, in my view
Socialization is very important at his age, and the contact with other dogs (indeed, preferably dogs with similar age to him) is also an extremly important part.
And, as long as other mature dogs are not agressive, I would let him play with them. They play a quite important role, knowing to put him at his place when necessary.
Socializarea este foarte importanta la varsta lui, iar contactul cu alti caini (ce-i drept, preferabil caini cu varste apropiate de el) este de asemenea o parte extrem de importanta. Si atata vreme cat alti caini adulti nu sunt agresivi, eu l-as lasa sa se joace si cu acestia. Ei joaca un rol destul de important si stiu cand sa-l puna la locul lui, daca este nevoie.
Post by: zimbris on July 29, 2010, 06:19:51 AM
Stiu sigur ca nu vreau ca alt caine sa-l pua la locul lui pe cainele meu (tanar, in formare). Eu vreau sa fiu singura fiinta din tot univesul, care face asta.
Post by: Man Stopper on August 03, 2010, 08:37:40 AM
I keep on hearing that his confidence with people is good, but does this mean that he trusts people and therefore wont be civil as an adult ?
Just wondering what you guys, who have seen much more young pups become adults and how they turn out..
Casso e f increzator in prezenta altor oameni si se apropie de ei fara probleme.. Onyx era altfel la aceeasi varsta, era f defensiv si nu avea incredere in toata lumea.. Credeti ca va avea Casso acelasi nivel de duritate ca si adult, sau oare va fi un caine sportiv (orientat catre manson)..
Altii imi spun ca e buna increderea lui in prezenta oamenilor, dar oare asta sa insemne ca va fi cam prietenos cu stainii ca si adult?
Ma intrebam ce credeti voi, care ati vazut mai multi catei si schimbarile care au aparut pe masura ce au crescut..
Post by: zimbris on August 08, 2010, 04:49:14 PM
New pics of Casso :)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/cassoaug20102.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/cassoaug20101.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on August 08, 2010, 04:50:43 PM
Post by: guest on August 09, 2010, 01:29:11 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
I think Thara knows better the what's about this one.. ;)
Ok, I found out that Reg's camera is a Nikon Coolpix, a pretty good camera. Reg, the camera has scene modes, like "portrait" , "landscape" etc.It should have one like "sports" for moving subjects.
Post by: Man Stopper on August 09, 2010, 08:51:24 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 09, 2010, 09:15:52 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 09, 2010, 09:26:04 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/DSCN3510.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on August 09, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
creste..
Post by: guest on August 09, 2010, 09:34:57 AM
Post by: DogPassion on August 09, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 09, 2010, 10:32:44 AM
Thanks for the compliments...
Post by: zimbris on August 10, 2010, 12:30:57 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 10, 2010, 12:32:26 AM
Post by: Leo Pui on August 10, 2010, 12:50:02 AM
Quote from: zimbris
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/CassoMeister20001.jpg):lol:
Post by: zimbris on August 10, 2010, 12:57:49 AM
Quote from: Leo Pui
:lol::cool:
banuiesc sa era de inteles ca un om care are acele asteptari de la cainele sau, are ceva asteptari si de la el insusi... si mai are parte si el de cate un antrenament, nu doar cainele... :cool:
Post by: Man Stopper on August 10, 2010, 08:23:14 AM
As you boys know, forearms are not built with dog walks i'm afraid
Post by: zimbris on August 10, 2010, 08:46:10 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Thanks guys and yeah its been a workout with Casso, with all the socializing and keeping him busy has been full on.. But heaps of fun...
As you boys know, forearms are not built with dog walks i'm afraid ;)
Post by: Leo Pui on August 10, 2010, 09:51:01 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
... As you boys know, forearms are not built with dog walks i'm afraid ;) Build up by doing Decoy hanging or "special" push-up exercise
Post by: DogPassion on August 10, 2010, 02:30:10 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 12, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: "Leo Pui"
:mrgreen:Quote from: "zimbris"
Its not the size of the dog in the fight
Its the size of FIGHT in the dog..! ;)
Intotdeauna am crezut cu putere ca, cainii mai mici par a fi mai curajosi si mai duri.. cam la tot pasul vezi cum unii lauda cainii mari si grei, dar care de fapt nu fac o treaba atat de buna; Deci intorcandu-ma la ceea ce am spus, nu cred ca imi pot face super-sperante ca micul Casso va deveni un "Man Stopper", dar legatura dintre noi se aprofundeaza iar asta pt mine inseamna ceva...[/color]
Post by: zimbris on August 12, 2010, 12:28:16 PM
Cred ca e devreme sa tragi concluzii... ;)
Post by: zimbris on August 23, 2010, 02:50:49 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/zzz051.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on August 23, 2010, 02:51:55 AM
nori frumosi, caini aratosi!
Post by: Man Stopper on September 15, 2010, 07:49:19 PM
Casso da semne de lucru bun in lucrarea urmei si ii plac activitatile 'in prada'...ma mai bucur ca arata si unele calitati ale lui Mad Max, acasa, desi pe strada e f calm si nu se simte amenintat sau nervos in preajma oamenilor (dar precaut)... Un caine usor de crescut / dresat pana in momentul de fata...!
Post by: zimbris on September 15, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on September 16, 2010, 05:23:59 AM
Post by: zimbris on September 25, 2010, 09:01:41 AM
Casso la 6 luni
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/Casso20Mass.png)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/Casso20A1.png)
Post by: zimbris on September 25, 2010, 09:05:49 AM
In a 2a poza are o fatza de caine serios, cred ca la maturitate va avea un look expresiv
si pieptul este adanc...
Post by: zimbris on September 25, 2010, 09:18:17 AM
inca una..
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUS20CASSO.png)
Post by: zimbris on September 25, 2010, 09:18:57 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on September 25, 2010, 09:24:19 AM
Post by: zimbris on September 25, 2010, 09:34:41 AM
Post by: hardbite29 on September 27, 2010, 09:30:03 PM
Post by: zimbris on September 29, 2010, 03:21:02 PM
Quote from: "hardbite29"
Looking very nice at 6 months of age.yep, looking forward to seeing him with ears erected
Post by: Man Stopper on October 21, 2010, 08:41:29 AM
Post by: zimbris on October 21, 2010, 09:22:00 AM
[youtube=625,400]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLYydiYODq0[/youtube]
Post by: guest on October 21, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
He definetly likes water! My girl would feel like in heaven out there, she loves water too. :yes:
Post by: zimbris on October 21, 2010, 09:47:22 AM
[youtube:36236j2c]Tl__odFTXWE[/youtube:36236j2c]
Post by: guest on October 21, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 22, 2010, 07:46:11 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
now that was funny :DThanks for your reply Thara and it is a nice place, very much so..! Its important for different locations at this age, and this place is on of many we have visited..
He definetly likes water! My girl would feel like in heaven out there, she loves water too. :yes:
Post by: Man Stopper on November 03, 2010, 08:31:33 AM
Am sure would breeze through Sch 1 if he had all correct professional training..
My aim is really to build confidence and then down the track test his courage from a threat from a stranger in unfamiliar territory..!
Have a fantastic new clip on You Tube which shows his noble DDR type GSD look he has...!
Post by: guest on November 03, 2010, 08:47:56 AM
Quote from: Man Stopper
Casso has ears up nowredjump
Post by: zimbris on November 03, 2010, 09:10:56 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Casso has ears up now, although not so firm on the tips..! But looks more like a GSD now and is really maturing fast and always willing to please..:beer:
Post by: bobo70 on November 03, 2010, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Casso has ears up now,...
We hear very good news
Post by: Man Stopper on November 07, 2010, 01:35:49 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 07, 2010, 01:57:15 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 07, 2010, 05:26:11 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 07, 2010, 06:00:49 AM
[youtube:lmy7omjl]0D0y7m3vGNU[/youtube:lmy7omjl]
[youtube:lmy7omjl]hgw-Dfp2po4[/youtube:lmy7omjl]
Post by: zimbris on November 07, 2010, 06:35:00 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2010, 02:12:55 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/casso7months1.png)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/casso7months2.png)
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2010, 02:14:18 AM
Post by: guest on November 13, 2010, 02:28:54 AM
He looks very nice!
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2010, 02:49:09 AM
Post by: DogPassion on November 13, 2010, 07:26:24 AM
but we want more pics!
Post by: Man Stopper on November 13, 2010, 09:29:02 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
I like that first picture, what a muzzle! I can only try and imagine how "serious" Casso will look one year from nowWell he definitely will have a serious look, but the 'serious' character is what we're after...! And that muzzle truly does look like it has potential to be super thick and strong.. I have a good camera, just that i figured out this 'snapshot' on my video's and get the pose i'm after, it's much easier then waiting for that magic shot..! Thanks also Thara and Dog Passion for the comment on Casso, there will be more photo's i guess in the near future..
Post by: zimbris on November 13, 2010, 10:37:52 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Quote from: "zimbris"I like that first picture, what a muzzle! I can only try and imagine how "serious" Casso will look one year from now ;)
Post by: Leo Pui on November 15, 2010, 01:38:31 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Quote from: "Man Stopper"Quote from: "zimbris"I like that first picture, what a muzzle! I can only try and imagine how "serious" Casso will look one year from now ;)That's copy right, Zimbris :mrgreen: :)
Post by: Man Stopper on November 15, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Casso is big and all, but is the heart and ..... big for the job..
Post by: Leo Pui on November 15, 2010, 08:43:35 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Thanks Leo for the reply, and yes we must read well in all aspects of the K9 mind, thats for sure...!
Casso is big and all, but is the heart and ..... big for the job.. ;) Anyway, I guess I can now have some "spare-times" to play with before the year-end festive season arriving that may put me in BUSY mood again :)
Post by: Man Stopper on November 23, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
Its been nearly 5 months since they have seen each other and have different characters from what i can see.. Asta is more dog aggressive and shows no real suspicion towards strangers, i was asked to do a basic simple aggitation on Asta, and there was no response, probaly still early we figure..
Although i am happy to say that Casso had a different attitude with a defensive bark and moving forward with high "cocky" tail set..
We were both thrilled that Casso is relaxed and has signs of natural aggression towards Man and not other dogs..
[youtube:13wrjnxi]wZHhsQAOCBY[/youtube:13wrjnxi]
Post by: zimbris on November 23, 2010, 11:31:18 PM
yes I would definitely say it's early to do agitation, drive is not "ripe" yet
Post by: Man Stopper on November 24, 2010, 09:43:11 AM
I recall when you said to me that, there will come a time when they just don't except things..! Casso is showing confidence and under standing the meaning of 'praise' . Especially when getting into "defense"drive recently, shows a
behaviour...!
Post by: zimbris on November 24, 2010, 11:23:05 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on December 06, 2010, 08:31:41 AM
I now am full of joy that genetics has carried through, and strongly believe i have a 'Crazy Casso' in the making... :twisted:[/color]
Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2010, 09:13:18 AM
I am looking forward to taking Datko out on the streets.. I got a feeling about this pup...
Post by: Man Stopper on December 06, 2010, 11:08:59 PM
With the 'cat' his bark is a combination of frustration and anger, something similar you hear on a training field when dog is focused on sleeve...
But i tell ya that the bark against stranger was just like Mad Maxx, and the beauty of it he responded after he sensed the Man was drunk and suspicious.
Great potential as Protection dog, who is composed and responds when required.!
Slightly cooler than Maxx and Onyx who are just completely nuts...!
Post by: Man Stopper on December 23, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Has been tested twice in the streets, with suspicious stranger's(helper)and responds very well with excellent drive (body language) and vocally sounds like a Lion..
Am glad the time has past with results i was after, thrilled to say the least with the "Old School Traits" both looks and character..
Casso a inceput sa dea semne ca vrea sa fie Seful, cand ne mai jucam, a inceput sa fie mai serios si profita de unele ocazii sa-mi cuprinda bratul cu falcile sau sa-mi "ciupeasca" gleznele. Imi place sa ma joc cu el precum cu un catel, se vede pe el ca se bucura si are expresivitatea tipica de CG pe care cu toti oiubim..
L-am testat de 2 ori pe strada / strazi, cu straini suspiciosi (amici de-ai mei) si a reactionat f bine, cu drive suficient (limbajul trupesc), iar vocal suna ca un leu..
Ma bucur ca timpul s-a dus iar rezultatele au fost cele pe care le-am sperat si cu bucurie spun ca vad si semnele "scolii vechi" atat in privinta aspectului cat si a caracterului..
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUSCasso081.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUSCasso091.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUSCasso079.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUSCasso086.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on December 24, 2010, 12:33:27 AM
Casso's development comes with great joy for you and for all those really looking for the old school dogs, as we need them around, that's ever so certain! And I am glad to see character plays a big part (or the biggest) as far as your expectations go.
ma bucur sa stiu asta Reg! Casso arata bine, asta pot spune cu siguranta! Imi plac primele 2 poze, se vede ca s-a transformat intr-un caine aratos.
Evolutia lui Casso este o bucurie atat pt tine cat si pt altii interesati de cainii din scoala veche, pt ca avem nevoie de astfel de caini, in mod sigur! Si ma bucur ca pt tine caracterul cainelui joaca un rol f important (daca nu chiar cel mai important).
Post by: Santos on December 24, 2010, 07:49:41 AM
Indeed he's a really good looking dog.
Post by: Man Stopper on December 24, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
Post by: kangdanlin on December 24, 2010, 11:37:54 PM
Post by: hardbite29 on December 25, 2010, 04:48:39 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 25, 2010, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: "hardbite29"
Looking very nice mate. Not many of those type of looking dogs around anymore but its good to know and see people still have them.oh yes, definitely looking "old school"!
Post by: Man Stopper on December 26, 2010, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: "hardbite29"
Looking very nice mate. Are you planning on working this dog in security or anything like that? looks super for it. Not many of those type of looking dogs around anymore but its good to know and see people still have them.
Thanks for the positive comment on Casso.
And will look at doing some form of training to build confidence,but nothing too much too soon..
Less is best..
Post by: zimbris on January 28, 2011, 12:54:46 AM
frumoasa noua imagine din avatar... ai ceva nou sa ne "impartasesti" despre Casso..?
Post by: Man Stopper on January 28, 2011, 09:47:25 AM
Well Casso is lifting his leg on trees and scraping grass/soil marking his territory, signs of maturing and cockiness...!
Very alert and composed in busy public area, besides yesterday a lady wanted to pat him. She approached quickly forward and Casso lunged forward faster and was ready to growl and possibly bite. But i pulled him back at that moment, and he settled very quickly which was good.
He has crazy ball drive and picks up just about any thing, besides glass bottles. Loves searching for hidden items.
Test his bite and re bites and am happy for what he is naturally, cant wait for the training to start to see how true the colours really are...!
Multumesc Dani, este poza mea favorita facuta acum cateva luni..
Pai, Caso deja ridica piciorul cand isi marcheaza teritoriul, semne ca se maturizeaza..!
Foarte alert si increzator in spatii publice aglomerate, chiar ieri o doamna a vrut sa il mangaie. S-a apropiat rapid de noi iar Casso a inaintat spre ea mai rapid si deja se pregatea sa maraie si poate chiar sa muste. Dar l-am tras inapoi si s-a calmat rapid, ceea ce e bine.
Are drive urias si ia in gura cam orice, mai putin borcane de sticla. Ii place sa caute obiecte ascunse.
L-am testat in privinta muscarii si a re-muscarii si imi place ce vad genetic, abia astept sa incepem antrenamentul sa vad cu adevarat de ce e in stare!
Post by: zimbris on January 28, 2011, 09:58:16 AM
judging by the details in your post, I would say Casso is indeed turning into a "real" dog.
o actualizare f faina in privinta lui Casso, sunt convins ca te bucuri ca acum catva timp ti s-a pus pata pe el..
judecand dupa detaliile din postare, vreau sa cred ca intr-adevar casso se transforma intr-un caine "real"
Post by: Man Stopper on January 28, 2011, 10:09:51 AM
Post by: zimbris on January 28, 2011, 10:19:57 AM
Well i'd like to take some video to back up what i'm saying, possibly next month.:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Post by: guest on January 28, 2011, 10:25:17 AM
Well i'd like to take some video to back up what i'm saying, possibly next month.U do that! :)
Can't wait to see Casso!
Post by: RogerW on January 28, 2011, 12:50:21 PM
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 10:17:06 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/DSCN3889.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/DSCN3882.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/DSCN3872.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 10:18:11 AM
Post by: guest on March 12, 2011, 10:18:47 AM
He looks absolutely awesome! :rockon:
Post by: guest on March 12, 2011, 10:19:17 AM
Fuck!Sorry about that! :rolleyes: :lol:
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 10:22:31 AM
Fuck!:wha:
not enough sleep last night..? :lol:
Post by: guest on March 12, 2011, 10:26:52 AM
I'm amazed, he looks so good. Congrats Man Stopper, u have a great looking GSD! ;)
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 10:30:22 AM
Post by: guest on March 12, 2011, 10:32:26 AM
still, I would try and keep some terms out of this forum :) We will try and keep this place tidy ;)Yeah, I know, my bad. ::shy:: :grin:
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 10:36:22 AM
Yeah, I know, my bad. ::shy:: :grin::beer:
Post by: kangdanlin on March 12, 2011, 01:41:25 PM
Post by: RogerW on March 12, 2011, 02:03:38 PM
I do, too, what a beautiful animal!!
Post by: Man Stopper on March 12, 2011, 10:43:41 PM
But more importantly he's developing into a cool relaxed dog, who responds well if provoked or approached suspiciously..
Will have some video soon to back this up !
Thanks Dani again. ;)
Post by: zimbris on March 12, 2011, 11:33:13 PM
Will have some video soon to back this up !:coool:
Post by: guest on March 13, 2011, 01:19:58 AM
But more importantly he's developing into a cool relaxed dog, who responds well if provoked or approached suspiciously..yellowjump
Will have some video soon to back this up !Yeah! :rockon:
Post by: Man Stopper on March 15, 2011, 11:08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ0gzsgT7-E
Post by: kangdanlin on March 16, 2011, 12:05:54 AM
Post by: RogerW on March 16, 2011, 05:44:38 AM
Post by: zimbris on March 17, 2011, 02:17:30 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/vlcsnap-2011-03-16-17h58m49s144.png)
Post by: zimbris on March 17, 2011, 02:19:13 AM
Post by: guest on March 17, 2011, 03:22:18 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 17, 2011, 08:20:28 AM
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Reg I think you hit the big one with Casso ;) he looks "nasty", can't wait to see some video clips of him.. have fun in training him! :rockon:
Dani this is the first time he has been 'approached' by a stranger in yard. He showed forward movement reacting defensiveley with some signs of stress through his barking. But believe with maturity and a few more sessions in differant locations, he should perform pretty good.
There was no equipment used on this occassion, and will keep this method to anylize i guess the attitude he has to stranger(person).
On previous 2 tests with helper running away, the bark was more confident with more of a roar deep bark..This i would like to see when he is approached uo close.
Then we would call this the JACKPOT for our liking...!
After this session he see's people in the streets in a differant way, with extra caution..
A video can say a few more words to some degree..
Be good if Santos gave some training tips or you Dani for that matter..!
asta a fost prima data cand s-a apropiat un strain de el in curte. A aratat miscare inaintata cu reactie defensiva si ceva semne de stres in latrat. Dar pe masura ce se maturizeaza si cu cateva sesiuni in alte locatii, ar trebui sa faca o treaba buna.
Nu s-a folosit nici un echipament in aceasta sesiune si voi continua asa pt a-i analiza atitudinea fatza de straini.
la ultimele 2 antrenamente cu agitatorul ulterior fugind, latratul era ceva mai increzator si pe un ton mai coborat... este raspunsul pe care as vrea sa-l vad cand se apropie mult de el, strainul.
Apoi voi considera ca am dat lovitura..!
Dupa aceasta sesiune, el se uita la straini pestrada cu ceva mai multa bagare de seama, intr-un mod diferit..
Un clip ar arata mai multe, cred..
Poate Santos imi poate da ceva sfaturi sau tu Dani..
Post by: zimbris on March 17, 2011, 09:15:13 AM
I would also say these sessions are just about what he needs for the time being, no equipment needed, just building up the defense and fight. That is exactly my plan with Briska.
Let's wait and see what Santos has to say.
Pai eu cred ca le-ai gandit bine si ai un scop bine stabilit, vrei un caine dur si cauti semnele corespunzatoare. Cred ca ceea ce faci pt acum e suficient, fara echipament, doar motivare si "trezirea" instinctelor de lupta si aparare. este exact ce am in plan cu Briska.
Sa vedem ce spune si Santos.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 17, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
Well as far as I can tell you have the right mind, and with the right purpose in it, I should say. You want a hard dog and you are definitely looking for what's needed.
I would also say these sessions are just about what he needs for the time being, no equipment needed, just building up the defense and fight.
Thought that i would start working/ building his confidence in his own territory, but than again i also am considering pushing him in defense mode, on unfamiliar grounds.. For example in dark factory area with open space, surprised by stranger.
Would you think that he is too young for this pressure and this can decrease his confidence or possibly make him tougher as he does not know any repetitive training..
I hope i am making sense in what i am trying to say..
Post by: hardbite29 on March 19, 2011, 04:03:29 PM
How is he around other dogs mate?
Post by: Man Stopper on March 19, 2011, 11:06:46 PM
Looks good mate reminds me of the dogs back in the day in Australia and hell yeah they where nasty dogs.
How is he around other dogs mate?
Thanks mate for the compliment on Casso, and yeah he does have that Stobar Hardt look about him, as he has Norse 3 times on his Sire side fairly close, and also Don v Trafalga several times on his maternal side. As you know this all traces back to Ex vom Riedstern a half dozen times atleast; if not more...!
Even though this might be 7 or 8 generations back,it still gives him that Mediceer von der Pelzmuhle look; in my eyes anyway.
He has stood up to a 3 year old Husky male, without barking and also to another 4 y.o Rottie with no barking and high cocky tail set,with minimal raising of hackles.. Dont let him off lead with other dogs, you just never know if play becomes fight.. So he doesnt become defensive or intimidated by dogs, but hates cats with a passion...! Lets cross our fingers that this same 'passion' to 'hate', will be towards a threat made by suspicious stranger...!
Post by: Man Stopper on April 06, 2011, 11:16:57 AM
Post by: guest on April 06, 2011, 11:24:32 AM
New footage on You Tube of CassoYou could put the video on the forum, just copy the link and paste it right here. ;)
Post by: zimbris on April 07, 2011, 04:03:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZb0zc1KxL4
Post by: zimbris on April 07, 2011, 04:11:39 AM
Post by: RogerW on April 07, 2011, 08:36:24 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 07, 2011, 09:02:25 AM
Wanted to test his reaction, on being on his own tied up in corner..(i was watching from inside the house)
Dani could i just ask in your opinion what are the key signs, where Casso shows civil behaviour ??? Really appreciate on other experienced guys such as Santos, Dux and Tessa's opinions are. How can i build his defensive behaviour to be more with confidence rather than fear..
IMO his reaction was not so quick, which indicates some thinking going on; rather than going into a frenzy only out of fear, when seeing a stranger all of a sudden coming around the corner..
Am still learning and would appreciate Forum members views..
Cheers..
Post by: Man Stopper on April 07, 2011, 09:25:10 AM
I don't think he liked the visitor! :grin:
I hope it's not only out of 'fear' that he dislikes strange visitors in the near future.. ;)
Post by: zimbris on April 07, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
teeth out "on sight", pretty "insane" reaction when seeing the stranger, I think that would be my answer. Then again, you could test that in him by having him by his own loose in a yard that is new to him, with a stranger approaching, separated by a fence. See how much confidence he shows. But remember he is still young!
Dani could i just ask in your opinion what are the key signs, where Casso shows civil behaviour ??
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IMO his reaction was not so quick, which indicates some thinking going on; rather than going into a frenzy only out of fear, when seeing a stranger all of a sudden coming around the corner..I think it wouldn't be fair to the dog to expect too much too soon from him.. he is still young, if he "thinks" before he acts / reacts.. I see no problem in that...
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Post by: RogerW on April 07, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
If he's younger than two, I would not push the civil agitation too much, at all. You can have someone going side to side with brief frontal positioning and brief advancement and then running off when Casso reacts as he did.
Don't worry so much about evaluation but worry about training him UP. Nothing but winning. Teach him that winning is all he will ever do, and when he is grown and mature (if his genetics are good) he won't accept anything else. IMO
Post by: kangdanlin on April 07, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 01:21:14 AM
i like his reaction...he is explosive! so far i think you made a good choice with him :)I second that ;)
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 03:46:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-95JfsYrKCg
Post by: Man Stopper on April 08, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
i like his reaction...he is explosive! so far i think you made a good choice with him :)
THanks Kangdanlin for your view on Casso..
The way i see it is that i put him in corner, to test his character and what kind of bark he has, to determine how much fear is there.
BEing defensive as we know has 2 direction the dog chooses, either fight or flight.. For a first timer i believe there is potential with Casso, especially if he has me behind him for confidence building.. But i do prefer if he has the balls like his half brother Onyx, who would challenge anyone anytime with true courage and hardness on his own...!
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 08:44:52 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 08, 2011, 08:58:37 AM
hey by the way, how's the old guy doing these days??
Ye Onyx is well, just kicking back and enjoying peacefull country life, with the singing birds and green surroundings..!
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 08:59:52 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 08, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
hey Reg, I really like this dog, in a way it also reminds me of Ben
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-95JfsYrKCg
Maxx at 12 years of age is weak in the back legs, although surprisingly not much grey around muzzle;maybe he doesn't stress out so much when confronted.. His mind is very alert and sharp for an old timer with "old school" traits.. :) His lines trace back to many great DDR dogs, you can notice that square blocky head/muzzle on him..
I know Dani what you mean, how you regret not having semen collection from Ben,dogs have lost natural suspicion/hardness..!
But am sure you can produce hard type dogs like Ben, possibly with Nero and Briska.. ;)
La varsta de 12 ani Maxx e moale pe picioarele din spate, desi in mod surprinzator nu a albit asa mult in jurul botului; poate nu se streseaza asa mult cand e confruntat.. are mintea foarte alerta si agera pt un caine batran cu trasaturi de "scoala veche".. :) Are in spate multi caini tari DDRisti, puteti observa acel cap / bot gros / patrat..
Stiu ce vrei sa zici Dani, regreti ca nu ai material seminal de la Ben, cainii moderni nu mai au agresivitate / suspiciune naturala..!
dar sunt sigur ca puteti produce caini duri ca Ben, cu Briska si Nero poate.. ;)
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 09:12:12 AM
I know Dani what you mean, how you regret not having semen collection from Ben,dogs have lost natural suspicion/hardness..!
oh man... if i could turn back time, I would breed many females to Ben! I would have never thought I would come to the point of deeply regretting not keeping his progeny.............
ahh.. daca as putea da timpul inapoi, as monta o gramada de femele cu Ben! Nici prin cap nu mi-a trecut ca voi ajunge in punctul in care sa regret atat de mult ca nu am pastrat un caine / o catea din el...
dogs have lost natural suspicion/hardness..!
that is very, very true - that is also why Dux and I are in search for old school dogs!
foarte, foarte adevarat - este si motivul pt care eu si Dux scanam tara in cautare de caini din 'scoala veche'
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But am sure you can produce hard type dogs like Ben, possibly with Nero and Briska.. ;)we will see... vom vedea...
Post by: Man Stopper on April 08, 2011, 09:19:31 AM
oh man... if i could turn back time, I would breed many females to Ben! I would have never thought I would come to the point of deeply regretting not keeping his progeny.............we will see...
Can you imagine if most legendary dogs like Zorro were stored away and brought back to life 30 years later..
Wouldn't mind cloning Held Ritterberg if it that was possible; but hey Casso makes up for it.. :grin:
iti imaginezi cum era daca se pastra material seminal din Zorro si sa fie folosit dupa 30 de ani...
Nu mi-ar prinde rau sa-l clonez pe Held Ritterberg daca ar fi cu putinta; dar lasa ca si Casso e destul de bun.. :grin:
Post by: zimbris on April 08, 2011, 09:20:42 AM
Zorro si Held... ai bubuit-o bine cu asta! :rockon:
Post by: Man Stopper on April 08, 2011, 09:50:11 AM
I like a thinking dog that if he errs it is on the side of caution. Your dog looked fine for the few seconds I saw.
If he's younger than two, I would not push the civil agitation too much, at all. You can have someone going side to side with brief frontal positioning and brief advancement and then running off when Casso reacts as he did.
Don't worry so much about evaluation but worry about training him UP. Nothing but winning. Teach him that winning is all he will ever do, and when he is grown and mature (if his genetics are good) he won't accept anything else. IMO
Thanks Roger for your opinion, and was thinking in the same line as yourself, so he wins and wins..
But not 100% sure on when he would be ready for some hidden sleeve work and/or closer confrontation / agitation by stranger..
Dont want to have regrets in doing things to early or late if that make sense..
Like you mentioned if genetics are there, time and patience will give positive results.. ;)
Post by: Man Stopper on May 05, 2011, 01:10:38 AM
weighing 41 kg with minimal fat.. Cant wait to put him through some real life training..
Post by: zimbris on May 05, 2011, 01:24:09 AM
well then, looking forward to seeing some action videos or pictures!
Post by: guest on May 05, 2011, 03:23:36 AM
Casso is just over a year old now:bd: Casso!
Post by: Man Stopper on May 06, 2011, 01:58:55 AM
Post by: zimbris on May 06, 2011, 11:20:26 AM
Post by: fabius.m on May 06, 2011, 02:44:03 PM
Good dog, and also very beautiful! "Gipsy", as I like.
Post by: zimbris on June 27, 2011, 12:35:46 AM
Unde te uitai cand ai facut prima poza?
I got these ones this morning.. did I get it right, his weight is now 42 K's..?
Where were you looking at when taking that first picture?
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUS20102011001.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUS20102011014.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUS20102011016.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/K9HAUS20102011033.jpg)
Post by: Man Stopper on June 27, 2011, 12:59:45 AM
Casso is now 42k's and am pleased overall,a pity his ears are not so firm..
The first pic i like because it shows a strong muzzle and under jaw, bit like Bero.. ;)
Man gotta get some video happenin :devil:
Post by: zimbris on June 27, 2011, 01:10:53 AM
a pity his ears are not so firm..
from which side would you say that comes from..?
Man gotta get some video happenin :devil::rockon:
Post by: Man Stopper on June 27, 2011, 01:24:16 AM
This dog is there 3 times on Casso Dam side, the positive is that this particular Male has Robby Glockeneck on his maternal side fairly close..
Onyx had differant Dam, his ear set was ideal IMO..
Post by: Man Stopper on July 30, 2011, 12:12:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9j99b4cU0w
Post by: zimbris on July 30, 2011, 12:38:02 AM
hey man, how come you didn't mention the clip below? Very nice stance at minute 0.12 :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkc2g5IlBI&NR=1
Post by: Man Stopper on July 30, 2011, 10:52:03 AM
The other clip of Casso shows some nice stance :rockon: :rockon:
hehe.. nice one ;)
hey man, how come you didn't mention the clip below? Very nice stance at minute 0.12 :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPkc2g5IlBI&NR=1
Post by: Man Stopper on August 04, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
In action very good behind gates, tested him today and he went berserk, towards stranger..
Give him a good think about for a few weeks, and then will get some on video..
Post by: zimbris on August 04, 2011, 01:34:41 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 04, 2011, 06:34:19 PM
On leash out of his own territory (neutral ground) in the dark, shows defensive behaviour with overload stress, but still moving forward with high raise tail, and minimal raise of hair..
With wire fence between him and aggitator on (neutral ground) he shows much more confidence and deeper bark, as there is a barrier between him and helper...
In the car he displays very serious approach in defense with deep bark..
At home he is extremely territorial, the least we expect..!
The test's were probaly a bit too much, with plenty of pushing to the maximum..
An accidental kick in the nose, between the fence got him sparked up and thinking. Also the car being hit by aggitator, had him thinking and pause for a second or two, then responding with defense..
I raised him to chase moving objects, and has in born prey and hunt drive..
So focusing now on defenseive work, but not so often..!!
Post by: zimbris on August 19, 2011, 09:47:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLycDXfcv2E
Post by: Man Stopper on August 19, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
But rather have a different attitude towards Man, only when provoked ofcourse ;) :grin:
Maxx is close to 13 years of age and it shows in the way he moves around, but still very much mentally alert..
Post by: zimbris on August 19, 2011, 10:03:15 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 20, 2011, 02:13:07 AM
you can tell his (Maxx) age... the way he looks to the sides, his eye sight is likely weakened..Very true Dani, also there was a bitch on heat near by;good old Maxx still is keen on a mating..One last time perhaps, only if those hips were made of Iron..!
Just uploaded a clip of Casso's litter sibling Asti, tell me what you think of her reaction at 16 months..
Post by: Man Stopper on August 21, 2011, 05:44:00 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 21, 2011, 08:34:40 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 21, 2011, 09:47:12 PM
Post by: zimbris on August 21, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Could be still of benefit for breeding IMO..if she doesn't fail the very basic sleeve bite test (does not flee), yes I guess she will do. Even not-so-impressive bitches produced awesome dogs. Then again, I am not saying she will turn out to be less impressive, just making a statement. Some "renowned" Czech dogs fled off the field at stick attack, they are great names on great websites (dogs of the past) but there are videos documenting their weaknesses.
daca trece proba banala de curaj, da. Chiar si catele mai putin impresionante au produs caini foarte buni. Dar, nu incerc sa spun ca Asti va impresiona mai putin, doar fac o afirmatie simpla. Au existat caini "renumiti" cehi care au fugit la proba de atac, sunt nume "grele" care apar pe situri la fel de "grele". Exista documente video care confirma slabiciunile lor in lucru.
Post by: Man Stopper on August 21, 2011, 10:21:13 PM
But when we're talking about 'trained and supposedly well bred dogs, who display lack of confidence courage, it makes you wonder what "Working Breeders" have accomplished besides a loveley looking natured dog.. All show and NO "GO"...!
Pt un incepator, Asti trece testul reactionand la strain fara sa fie provocata si fara sa fi parcurs antrenamente anterior, e la inceput..
Dar cand vb de caini dresati si selectionati prin crestere, care duc lipsa de curaj la proba de curaj, te face sa te intrebi ce au facut crescatorii "de lucru", cu exceptia obtinerii unui caine aratos. Aspect si atat!
Post by: zimbris on August 21, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
All show and NO "GO"...!yep, sounds like the reality of the past years in the history of the breed!!!!
Doar aspect si atat..!
Da, cam asa suna realitatea ultimilor ani de istorie a rasei!!
Post by: Man Stopper on August 21, 2011, 10:31:45 PM
Guys like yourself and ofcourse Santos are building things up niceley, as is Leo i believe..
I got know problem in getting a type of K9 i'm after :grin:
In 10 ani lucrurile se pot schimba in bine, cred. Oricum Dani, voi faceti treaba buna in partea voastra de lume... oameni ca voi si desigur Santos mergeti treptat la tinta, ca si Leo de-altfel..
Post by: zimbris on August 21, 2011, 10:44:49 PM
Putem cu totii sa incercam sa facem ce putem, cu ce avem, cat mai bine. Si noi si tu si Leo etc.. Doar ca, tinand cont ca e din ce mai greu sa gasesti caini buni, dureaza pana sa dai de aur.
Post by: Sorin on August 22, 2011, 05:23:23 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on August 22, 2011, 06:31:41 AM
One can only try and do the best what what they have. It applies to us and it applies to you, Leo.. anyone. It's just that given the less and less good dogs we find these days, it takes longer to strike oil.
Putem cu totii sa incercam sa facem ce putem, cu ce avem, cat mai bine. Si noi si tu si Leo etc.. Doar ca, tinand cont ca e din ce mai greu sa gasesti caini buni, dureaza pana sa dai de aur.
I agree Dani and well said.. This OIL has to be worked and made more potent, and not diluted or contaminated..!
Casso has matured a lot, I really like his character.Which part of his character are you refering to ? I assume his happy expression..
Post by: Sorin on August 22, 2011, 06:38:56 AM
!Which part of his character are you refering to ? I assume his happy expression..Since I'm shooting a dog confident, courageous, more dominant.I referred to the short sessions we've done, I liked his behavior in front of an unknown man
Post by: Man Stopper on August 22, 2011, 06:43:50 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 22, 2011, 09:13:59 AM
Since I'm shooting a dog confident, courageous, more dominant.I referred to the short sessions we've done, I liked his behavior in front of an unknown manFii ceva mai clar in ce spui, ca sa nu existe interpretari gresite; Pana una alta tu ai spus asa:
"Din moment ce impusc un caine cu incredere, curajos, mai dominant. Am facut referire la clipurile scurte care le-am facut, mi-a placut comportamentul lui un fatza unui strain."
Post by: Sorin on August 22, 2011, 01:27:44 PM
Post by: guest on August 22, 2011, 01:32:05 PM
pune-te pe invatat engleza! ;)
Pai o stiu ,dar poate sunt din forum care nu o inteleg in totalitate. :):lol: :grin:
Post by: zimbris on August 22, 2011, 02:19:49 PM
Am tradus pe net cu "dictionar englez roman" si ala nu prea traduce bine din cate vad.Am vrut sa zic ca pe baza clipurilor pe care le-am vazut imi place atitudinea cainelui."aha, ma gandeam eu ca folosesti un serviciu de traducere online, ca astea traduc aiurea de multe ori, se aplica oricarei alte limbi, in mare.
Post by: Man Stopper on August 22, 2011, 11:32:48 PM
Post by: zimbris on August 22, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
I get the picture even if sorinlupu had a not so good translator.. No worries bratchko..!!:coool: :beer:
Post by: Man Stopper on October 09, 2011, 12:36:18 AM
The development so far i cant complain..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXACDMUvdEk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQeVcDnIvTE
Post by: zimbris on October 09, 2011, 01:29:25 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 09, 2011, 07:55:45 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 20, 2011, 05:05:52 PM
He had no pedigree papers, but was a strong and healthy tough and dominant individual with "OLD SCHOOL" looks and sharpness.
Mad Maxx, tatal lui Casso, s-a stins recent la varsta de 13 ani...
Nu avea pedigree, dar a fost un caine puternic, sanatos si dominant cu aspect "OLD SCHOOL".
Post by: Santos on November 21, 2011, 03:20:33 AM
he became very beautiful
Post by: guest on November 21, 2011, 05:07:39 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 22, 2011, 02:40:23 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on December 18, 2011, 04:53:48 PM
Bit of a test to see his reaction, some stress IMO but not a bad start..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaiZ8sEMATw
Post by: zimbris on December 18, 2011, 10:56:12 PM
Post by: zimbris on December 18, 2011, 10:59:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzifIDLm7NQ
Post by: fabius.m on December 19, 2011, 01:48:12 PM
Post by: zimbris on December 19, 2011, 01:57:27 PM
Imi place si Castro, fratele lui Casso.
Post by: Man Stopper on December 19, 2011, 03:05:00 PM
how old is he now..? This is first time we see him agitated, if I'm not mistaking..
Ye this was the first time he was agitated on unfamiliar territory to test his reaction, he was around 15 months in this clip,now he is approx 20 months..
At home he shows more confidence and the bark is deeper and differant rhythm, will get this on film once i find someone to be in backyard, which unfortunately has low fencing. Have filmed him tied on lead in yard, but its not the same when they are free..
He has had no work done on sleeve, i believe this will settle his overly defensive reaction..
Castro is his litter brother and shown on home ground,which gives extra confidence.. No training or agitation before this footage for Castro, he had shown no signs of defense a few months ago.. Surprised me seeing his reaction when i approached with camera. Both of them are just shown naturally what they are, with no training which IMO gives a better evaluation..
Post by: zimbris on December 19, 2011, 03:16:22 PM
Surprised me seeing his reaction when i approached with camera. Both of them are just shown naturally what they are, with no training which IMO gives a better evaluation..that's it mate! what's in the genes is what counts, that's what will pass on to pups, not titles on papers or sport performance generally speaking.
I notices Castro's ears (that's a fine name by the way) and I am thinking there's something there, in the genes, to do with that, so I would be more careful when it comes to breeding I guess (no disrespect to Casso's breeder!)
Post by: Man Stopper on December 19, 2011, 03:29:19 PM
Post by: zimbris on December 19, 2011, 03:31:19 PM
Yep, genetics are "surprising", you sometimes get perfectly healthy pups out of dysplastic parents (or at least one of them).
Post by: zimbris on March 10, 2012, 03:19:49 AM
Hey Reg, has it really been 2 years already?? Wow, time just flies... In that first shot he kind of looks like Hun's other black litter mate
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/2YEARSCASSO078.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/2YEARSCASSO087.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/2YEARSCASSO100.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/2YEARSCASSO106.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on March 10, 2012, 03:26:17 AM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/2YEARSCASSO078.jpg)
Heino v Ostschutz
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380450_332560600092589_100000159561446_1639425_2070910095_n.jpg)
Post by: guest on March 10, 2012, 03:34:50 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 11, 2012, 06:32:57 AM
And Dani he does have that expression as Hun's litter sibling.
Although Heino has better ear shape /formation and lighter eyes..
Have upload on You Tube latest clip of CASSO 2012
Post by: guest on March 11, 2012, 06:41:43 AM
Have upload on You Tube latest clip of CASSO 2012http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s5jPGEwJyw
Post by: Man Stopper on March 11, 2012, 06:43:55 AM
Post by: zimbris on March 11, 2012, 07:32:43 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 11, 2012, 09:44:45 AM
looking good there, do you plan to shoot some civil action too? :cool:
Thanks mate..
Some civil footage will be coming soon i believe..
Post by: Man Stopper on March 14, 2012, 09:28:36 AM
Similar to Held Ritterberg Dani..
I wish :rolleyes:
Post by: zimbris on March 14, 2012, 09:45:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9G-RjLczLs
Post by: Man Stopper on March 14, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
So what do you think of the old style structure ?
Possibly a bit more front leg height needed you think ?
Post by: Sorin on March 14, 2012, 12:07:18 PM
Post by: zimbris on March 15, 2012, 01:11:59 AM
Thanks Dani..Old style look and structure indeed. If his movement is good, why desire more front leg height?
So what do you think of the old style structure ?
Possibly a bit more front leg height needed you think ?
Post by: Man Stopper on March 15, 2012, 06:19:29 AM
Old style look and structure indeed. If his movement is good, why desire more front leg height?
Just as a visual thing i guess, but not really important as character...!
I believe Casso is good for family guard dog, in producing this kind of attributes to similar bloodline in the mix...!
He Casso is a very cool dog for a family, is extremely patient and very noble in character; i believe M
Thanks Dani..ax would of beeen impressesd...
So what do you think of the old style structure ?
Possibly a bit more front leg height needed you think ?
YOur right that a nice protective scene would be best..!!
Post by: zimbris on March 15, 2012, 08:00:43 AM
Just as a visual thing i guess, but not really important as character...!bingo!
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I believe Casso is good for family guard dog, in producing this kind of attributes to similar bloodline in the mix...!
He Casso is a very cool dog for a family, is extremely patient and very noble in character; i believe Max would of beeen impressesd...
that's a very creative way of putting it :cool:
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YOur right that a nice protective scene would be best..!!bring it on then mate! :rockon:
Post by: Man Stopper on May 22, 2012, 08:32:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7tN18p0Y8
Post by: fabius.m on May 22, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
Post by: ben on May 23, 2012, 06:01:10 AM
Imi place! Cand vedem ceva lucru pe manson? (presupunand ca lucrul pe viu e nepermis acolo :lol: )
Post by: hardbite29 on May 25, 2012, 12:58:18 AM
Post by: ben on May 25, 2012, 01:15:22 AM
Get some video of him working , lets see what he has.:rockon:
Post by: Man Stopper on May 25, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
Good attitude, i like him from the beginning :rockon: How old is Casso?In this clip he was approx 16 months, he is now 24 months.
Hehe... love it mate! When do we get to see some sleeve work? (presuming that "real" work is not allowed over there :lol: )Well thats the thing with the laws here in regards to sleeve work and all... He has had no training what so ever in working with helper, but has plenty of drive for biting multiple objects which are introduced to him, from tyres to plastic buckets, heshem materials and even metal objects..
Imi place! Cand vedem ceva lucru pe manson? (presupunand ca lucrul pe viu e nepermis acolo :lol: )
Has no issues on slippery surfaces or with retrieving objects from water.
Tested him several times over the last 18 months to see his reaction towards stranger and he reads the situation well, although i must admit that i probally began the testing at too early of an age... I didn't want to do any sleeve work as to me it really only shows that he would be conditioned just like a sport dog.. He is very relaxed and friendly and would respond if provoked and/or senses a real threat.. The best footage i could show would be how he responds in his own territory, which is where we need him to show some serious security guarding. And i guess how he reacts on neutral ground would be purely all natural with NO real conditioning or training because of age.
Now that he has reached 2 years of age i believe with his maturity, would have better results in less time..
Get some video of him working , lets see what he has.The best i could do would be show how he is in his own territory and i guess on neutral unfamiliar territory NO SLEEVE OR EQUIPMENT...!
Post by: ben on May 25, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
Don't worry about adding extra effort to prove anything to us in the forum, whatever you post from time to time is just fine! :beer:
Post by: Santos on May 26, 2012, 07:35:09 AM
fine looking dog with a good temperment
Post by: Man Stopper on June 01, 2012, 12:54:43 AM
Bi Colour and strength about him..
But i do miss Onyx da street fighter..!!
Post by: ben on June 01, 2012, 01:02:07 AM
But i do miss Onyx da street fighter..!!:rockon:
Post by: ben on June 28, 2012, 03:50:17 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ivzJ9Ke7cUM/T-rko_i1JxI/AAAAAAAADd4/zY1OcTdbrxo/s702/K9HAUS+JUNE+2012+192.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h8E6XRKo0e8/T-rkpssJP-I/AAAAAAAADeA/EuNlhaqLoJI/s702/K9HAUS+JUNE+2012+199.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6t7TEFRmYoI/T-rkqln98aI/AAAAAAAADeI/xkxGxUqpjs0/s702/K9HAUS+JUNE+2012+201.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jUOQgS372no/T-rkmwRLMII/AAAAAAAADd0/n86Q5tuL5EY/s702/K9HAUS+JUNE+2012+190.JPG)
Post by: ben on June 28, 2012, 03:51:00 AM
Imi place in ultima poza, desi era mai bine daca intra cu totul in cadru
Post by: Man Stopper on June 28, 2012, 04:43:34 AM
I like him in that last picture, even though a zoomed out one would have been betterTrue the high set cocky tail would of matched his head expression, he was annoyed at some birds which enter the yard.. He likes to show off when i'm out there with him, i like that about him..
Imi place in ultima poza, desi era mai bine daca intra cu totul in cadru
The head shot of him i like most, it's got a touch of Titus look about him ;)
You forgot to post that particular photo..
Post by: ben on June 28, 2012, 04:48:14 AM
oops..
The head shot of him i like most, it's got a touch of Titus look about him ;)
You forgot to post that particular photo..
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F90TuK-85kU/T-rkrQtjLtI/AAAAAAAADeU/Af1juetDao8/s702/K9HAUS+JUNE+2012+202.JPG)
Post by: Man Stopper on June 28, 2012, 04:49:30 AM
Cheers
Post by: ben on June 28, 2012, 04:58:54 AM
I'm asking because I am trying to visualize what Briska would turn into when reaching adulthood. She is sociable out on the street but does not want to make friends with anybody, she may be willing to fetch if you got the toy but if you want to pet her afterwards she pulls away.. I like that about her. Needless to say she is very unfriendly when on my property. I'm trying to learn how the East blood works :cool:
Post by: Man Stopper on June 28, 2012, 05:35:10 AM
If he senses a threat with very little provocation, he goes ballistic moving forward and has never backed off in the several session he's had. Only once he was tested with rag material recently, and took a bite and immediately spat it out, choosing to focus on helper.. He is not interested in people in the streets, and does not let no one approach within 2 feet of us..
It's good to hear that Briska has that balanced character, where by not excepting other's and naturally having a suspicious confident character.. Would it be fair to say that even though that the East blood is known to mature late, it still would vary from dog to dog i believe IMO.. Finger's crossed that Hun's and Briska's blood if combined can build and add a new level of sharpness..
Post by: ben on June 28, 2012, 05:56:52 AM
Would it be fair to say that even though that the East blood is known to mature late, it still would vary from dog to dog i believe IMO..It's simply to early for me to have a say on that, it's first time I actually have 2 dogs of DDR bloodlines. Now, I am sure they would have done a great job if I started early with rag work blah blah, the typical workout sessions most would go for with their dogs, but all that is done in prey and I preferred to wait and see how their own natural elements kick in, as oposed to being influenced by the mentioned techniques.
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Finger's crossed that Hun's and Briska's blood if combined can build and add a new level of sharpness..cheers mate!
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 07:04:29 AM
Imi place mult cum arata in prima poza.
Yultzen Rahni
(http://cdn.pedigreedatabase.com/pictures/745437.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/Onyx/YultzenRahni.jpg)
Post by: guest on July 27, 2012, 07:11:07 AM
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
Adolf
(http://www.vonzanekennels.com.au/attachments/Image/Yultzen%20Adolf4.jpg)
Post by: Sorin on July 27, 2012, 08:53:35 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on July 27, 2012, 09:09:52 AM
ce namila de catea :cheesy:She has a a Muzzle that put's many Males to shame
...hai sa postez tot aici, un alt caine Yultzen.Casso's maternal Grandsire (Adolf ) who had a reputation of being a serious type dog with high civil and prey drive..
Adolf
(http://www.vonzanekennels.com.au/attachments/Image/Yultzen%20Adolf4.jpg)
Thanks again Dani
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 09:13:32 AM
She has a a Muzzle that put's many Males to shameCasso's maternal Grandsire (Adolf ) who had a reputation of being a serious type dog with high civil and prey drive..He looks mean!
Thanks again Dani
Post by: Man Stopper on July 27, 2012, 09:51:05 AM
He looks mean!Pretty nasty guard dog..
Post by: ben on July 27, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
Pretty nasty guard dog..Yeah, I see the fight in those eyes! :samurai:
Post by: Sorin on September 05, 2012, 10:29:07 AM
Post by: guest on September 05, 2012, 10:31:51 AM
More of what's Casso hears, I have not seen anything bound clothes with him, maybe we look and behave like new Casso to guardSubtitrarea se poate, ca nu inteleg nimic ? :undecided:
Post by: Man Stopper on September 05, 2012, 10:48:21 AM
Ce se mai aude de Casso, nu am vazut nici o filmare in paza si protectie, poate pui ceva cu el in paza sa-l vedem si noi !!!Sorin i believe you want to see some action from Casso, if i'm correct in translating your post..
Coming soon brother, but i'm not promising anything too crazy, just a little bit of sharpness... ;)
Post by: Sorin on September 05, 2012, 10:50:51 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on September 05, 2012, 11:16:09 AM
Post by: Romul on September 05, 2012, 11:33:38 PM
Yes Sorin,Manstopper and i did a small but very realistic type of scenario
where you could be aprouched by a stranger in the night.
Casso handled it with great confidence.
Casso is very much the old tpye of german shepherd when it comes to strength of character
but very impresive in terms of looks.
Manstopper certainly has him self a winner.
Post by: ben on September 06, 2012, 12:08:17 AM
Hello Workingdog lovers,LIKE
Yes Sorin,Manstopper and i did a small but very realistic type of scenario
where you could be aprouched by a stranger in the night.
Casso handled it with great confidence.
Casso is very much the old tpye of german shepherd when it comes to strength of character
but very impresive in terms of looks.
Manstopper certainly has him self a winner.
Post by: ben on September 07, 2012, 12:23:49 AM
Casso is looking good, has the old look about him, too. This physique kind of reminds me of Nero (Jinopo v Bismack). Beautiful park, by the way!
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/CASSOHEAD2012091.jpg)
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/CASSOHEAD2012082.jpg)
Post by: Romul on September 07, 2012, 05:01:43 AM
Yes, Casso Embodies every thing i look for in a working german sheperd.
For a relatively young dog Casso show's all the atrbute's we look for in a serious dog.
He all so has the lovely bi-colour markings that i totally adore.
The only thing i would like to see different in Casso is his structure,more along the type of my
dog Rahni but otherwise super dog.
VERY OLD STYLE TEMPERAMENT.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on September 07, 2012, 05:42:23 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on September 07, 2012, 06:11:37 AM
Niste cadre primite de la Manstopper azi dimineata. Imi place cum arata Casso, chiar aduce a old school. Cu fizicul asta imi aminteste de Nero (Jinopo v Bismack).Thanks Dani he's gradually getting heavier and is 41 kg at approx 62 cm, and yes Queens Park inner Melbourne is one of the first parks to be established in the city..
Casso is looking good, has the old look about him, too. This physique kind of reminds me of Nero (Jinopo v Bismack). Beautiful park, by the way!
Hello Dani,Cheers Sam for your positive feedback on Casso..
Yes, Casso Embodies every thing i look for in a working german sheperd.
For a relatively young dog Casso show's all the atrbute's we look for in a serious dog.
He all so has the lovely bi-colour markings that i totally adore.
The only thing i would like to see different in Casso is his structure,more along the type of my
dog Rahni but otherwise super dog.
VERY OLD STYLE TEMPERAMENT.
Regards
Sam.
But some of the boys want to see some action, in HD video.. I guess a picture tells a thousand words, but a video says a million.. In the near future Sam you might have to find the time to help us get that moment on film in motion..
Sounds like Reg got himself one fine dog!Still not 100% happy Dani, i still have that vision of a Held or Titus running around in my yard, with attitude.. Cream on cake... :)
Post by: ben on September 07, 2012, 06:46:47 AM
Still not 100% happy Dani, i still have that vision of a Held or Titus running around in my yard, with attitude.. Cream on cake... :)Hey man, I hear you, I really do; getting THE dog nowadays is truly a luck phenomena, with so many good bloodlines dying down and a good dog springing out of nowhere (but not necessarily good producer). I think we ultimately got to be content with what we have and work just with that. Something tells me the best bloodlines are found in the old school dogs but that was swirled almost as if by a hurricane, since there has been no controlled breeding of the dogs in the military throughout the years. That cream on cake may never come in our own backyards OR if it did, it would very likely take us by surprise (talk about luck).
I myself will soon start working Hun in protection although he still has a fairly "childish" response to various elements around. Right now I think he will act quite a bit in prey as I don't see a fight in him rising up as yet, but am expecting things to mature with time.
Post by: Santos on September 07, 2012, 07:26:43 AM
I really like Adolf and Casso looks very good too
Post by: ben on September 07, 2012, 08:26:48 AM
But some of the boys want to see some action, in HD video.. I guess a picture tells a thousand words, but a video says a million.. In the near future Sam you might have to find the time to help us get that moment on film in motion..When time and technology allows it, I guess yes, it would be cool to see Casso in action. I guess the legal "climate" for such exercises is different over there. Would you have to file documents and stuff in order to train your dogs (on your own property) in protection?
Cand timpul si tehnologia permite, da, ar fi beton sa il vedem pe Casso in actiune. Din cate tin minte climatul legal pt asa ceva e diferit la voi, aveti nevoie de aprobare de vreun fel sa puteti lucra cainii in protectie?
Post by: Romul on September 07, 2012, 05:52:05 PM
Dani your wright,the true hard dog's of yesteryear are dying out but needless to say
we still have semen stored away from some of these great dog's here in Australia.
Unfortunatly these individuals who have this semen are very very very narrow minded
and very greedy.
Reg is very lucky to have such a dog the second time around as most people are not so fortunate to have
such a at all.So to have that type of dog twice in your life Reg would have to consider him self very lucky.
Long live ONYX!!. A true hard dog.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on September 07, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Yes Reg must be lucky to have his hand on such dogs.
On a different note, what do you mean when you talk about the narrow minded breeders? I can't help but think that some would "guard" what they have, since the breed is gradually going down, it's with that in mind that I am asking the question. To be honest Hun's semen will not fly out around my country but I will limit that as I consider best. I can understand the efforts of people like John to help preserve some old east bloodlines and I will show my respect to that by controlling what happens with Hun's blood. Nowadays many mix the bloodlines like they're always trying new soup recipes. If I learned anything from John in time, is not to become a chef but try and be a breeder with specific goals in mind.
Post by: Romul on September 08, 2012, 03:50:56 AM
In 1988 i was introduced to the workingdog circle through the purchase of a female german shepherd.
Beunnan Ulme was that female.If you look at some of the Von Forrell lines far back enough you will see her there,
she's even in Casso pedigree.
For the four or so year's that i had her i found it a up hill battle just to breed her to male's of the same blood.
So Dani in the end i had enough of the politic's and then sold her to Cendrise kennels.
All i'm saying Dani is that we can't single handley save a particular bloodline or we musn't limit our self's to the use
of a quality stud dog for our personal gain.
I think if someone share's the same vision as you don't over evaluate your dog if your so fortunate to own such a dog.
Cheers.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on September 08, 2012, 04:41:39 AM
You see, over here, only a handful of people that I trust will actually get their hands on Hun's blood. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm over evaluating Hun, I am just being considerate of what "multipliers" are doing these days (I can't call them breeders). They hunt down whatever sells and in pursuing their own goals they breed good bloodlines into a genetic soup. I hope my English is good enough to pass around what I got in mind when saying that.
You are right, no one can "save" bloodlines (long term) by their own efforts. I am at starting point in trying to help preserve specific bloodlines and so I am learning along the way.
Post by: Romul on September 08, 2012, 03:57:49 PM
Considering you are in a Europian country and i'm in Australia i would have to say your english
is excellent.
I suppose my excuse for having poor literature is that fact yes i was born in Europe
and the fact that i came here to Australia when i was six years old.
Dani with the law being the way it is here in Austalia it makes it extremely difficult to own a dog like Casso
let alone a dog like Mad Max or Onyx,Casso is mild in comparison to say Onyx when it comes civil agression
but never the less Casso is more than plenty for Reg's need's.
I wish you the best in your endeavours Dani and i can't wait to see what comes out of your kennels.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: Man Stopper on September 08, 2012, 05:41:52 PM
When time and technology allows it, I guess yes, it would be cool to see Casso in action. I guess the legal "climate" for such exercises is different over there. Would you have to file documents and stuff in order to train your dogs (on your own property) in protection?Dani i dont know of any permit which would allow the working dog enthusiasts to train there dogs for protection.. Only those well known trainers who are recognised within the government agencies (cops) have the right to hold such sessions..But its not hard to get your hands on equipment and for those to find some warehouse, to have some short sharp sessions..
Cand timpul si tehnologia permite, da, ar fi beton sa il vedem pe Casso in actiune. Din cate tin minte climatul legal pt asa ceva e diferit la voi, aveti nevoie de aprobare de vreun fel sa puteti lucra cainii in protectie?
Post by: Man Stopper on September 08, 2012, 05:59:22 PM
Sam, cheers for expanding your thoughts a little bit.Dani your right that Hun's bloodline should be used where you and those fortunate few can achieve positive results. These days the term or title 'DDR' is just that a"title"on paper, not character.
You see, over here, only a handful of people that I trust will actually get their hands on Hun's blood. I hope it doesn't sound like I'm over evaluating Hun, I am just being considerate of what "multipliers" are doing these days (I can't call them breeders). They hunt down whatever sells and in pursuing their own goals they breed good bloodlines into a genetic soup. I hope my English is good enough to pass around what I got in mind when saying that.
You are right, no one can "save" bloodlines (long term) by their own efforts. I am at starting point in trying to help preserve specific bloodlines and so I am learning along the way.
As for the soup i like to make it simple, with very few ingredients and extra HOT pepper...!! :grin:
Post by: ben on September 08, 2012, 11:11:18 PM
Dani,your english is far better than mine.Sam, thank you for your kind feedback on my English! Where about in Europe do you originate?
Considering you are in a Europian country and i'm in Australia i would have to say your english
is excellent.
I suppose my excuse for having poor literature is that fact yes i was born in Europe
and the fact that i came here to Australia when i was six years old.
Dani with the law being the way it is here in Austalia it makes it extremely difficult to own a dog like Casso
let alone a dog like Mad Max or Onyx,Casso is mild in comparison to say Onyx when it comes civil agression
but never the less Casso is more than plenty for Reg's need's.
I wish you the best in your endeavours Dani and i can't wait to see what comes out of your kennels.
Regards
Sam.
Wow, sounds like Onyx was indeed one heck of a dog... I guess Casso is still young and Reg has to wait a bit longer to really tell the color of the dog. We keep talking about the old dogs as being the best and so I ask myself WHAT is going on???... It just seems to me like the breed is dying, as we can't compare the recent/modern dogs to the old ones.. where are we doing it wrong.. the answer MUST be found in breeding thinking and doing, it's just got to be..
But its not hard to get your hands on equipment and for those to find some warehouse, to have some short sharp sessions..That's good news! I suppose there have been blokes in the history of the country who trained their dogs with the wrong goal in mind and determined the government to take action..
Dani your right that Hun's bloodline should be used where you and those fortunate few can achieve positive results. These days the term or title 'DDR' is just that a"title"on paper, not character.Trust me I am being very considerate of Hun's bloodline and yesss... few ingredients and plenty HOT pepper :cheesy: :grin: :samurai:
As for the soup i like to make it simple, with very few ingredients and extra HOT pepper...!! :grin:
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 10:10:23 AM
Casso, Oct 2012
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fSgWVonVhWA/UGnNK4soaSI/AAAAAAAAAoA/HaycTk_0OSk/s801/K9HAUS+CASSO+2012.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Zp914-3ARkg/UGnNL8JnmTI/AAAAAAAAAn8/FO9yjSbA31Y/s1068/K9HAUS+KASO.JPG)
Post by: guest on October 02, 2012, 10:14:13 AM
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 10:17:03 AM
I just love the way Casso looks! I always did. :rockon:True, he's a good looking dog!
Post by: prototype on October 02, 2012, 10:39:35 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 10:46:50 AM
Thanks again Dani ;)
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 10:50:28 AM
Some new footage of him on You Tube..This one I presume..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef_neTmvCF8
He's one handsome dog indeed!
Try and not use the zooming function of your camera, it's digital and it spoils the image quality.
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 10:53:04 AM
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
:) Thanks Dani.. I had to zoom in and get that blocky head.. :grin:Too lazy to check out the first pages... how old is Casso at this point in time?
Post by: prototype on October 02, 2012, 10:58:33 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 11:01:20 AM
Too lazy to check out the first pages... how old is Casso at this point in time?Dani he is 30 months and height approx 63cm and weight 41 kg
But some agitation with Casso when we'll see? :lol:Soon some loud action i believe..
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Dani he is 30 months and height approx 63cm and weigth 41 kgSounds good! Did you check out prototype's question? :cool: ::whistling::
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 11:07:18 AM
Sounds good! Did you check out prototype's question? :cool: ::whistling::I know action speaks louder than coffee chats.. :)
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 11:07:59 AM
I know action speaks louder than coffee chats.. :):grin: Right.. I guess that spells "videos in the making" :cool:
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 11:11:23 AM
So get some territorial scene i believe..
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
As soon as Sam has some spare time, he's the aggitator and camera guy..We would surely love to see some civil attitude, but no pressure mate!
So get some territorial scene i believe..
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 11:19:03 AM
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 11:20:04 AM
I can understand as i look out for those scenes also, we all like a bit of action.. Especially when there is NO sleeve hanging about.....and that's exactly what I plan to do with Hun, so we're on the same track here ;)
Post by: Man Stopper on October 02, 2012, 11:31:46 AM
No hidden flaws..
Post by: ben on October 02, 2012, 11:33:31 AM
Thats our plan Dani, and we got more to gain than lose.. What we got is what you see... ;)That's because we do our homework!!!
No hidden flaws..
Post by: Romul on October 08, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
Yes that's wright Dani,homework is very important for all phase's of aggitation work.
As i have said many times the past and i will say it again,Casso just like his predecessor before him is a much more
civil dog than a prey dog and most would have to agree that in a real life situation the civil dog would be a much better deterant
than the prey dog.
I all so feel that if push came to shove the civil dog would be the one i would like to have at the end of my lead as i feel he
would not need any form of stimulus to actually bite someone.
Interms of what the reaction of the dog may after the bite will very on aech individual dog e.g fight drive or combative instinct but
certainly we have found in the past that dog's with high prey drive and low agression would not bight the agitator unless the dog was
stimulated in prey mode(no good for crowd control work).
Post by: ben on October 08, 2012, 11:07:16 PM
Hello workingdog people,That's some great news on Casso, Reg must be a lucky guy
Yes that's wright Dani,homework is very important for all phase's of aggitation work.
As i have said many times the past and i will say it again,Casso just like his predecessor before him is a much more
civil dog than a prey dog and most would have to agree that in a real life situation the civil dog would be a much better deterant
than the prey dog
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I all so feel that if push came to shove the civil dog would be the one i would like to have at the end of my lead as i feel heI totally agree. I mean let's be serious, what do you need a prey/sport dog for in real life or, since when does reality count less than sport competition??
would not need any form of stimulus to actually bite someone.
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Interms of what the reaction of the dog may after the bite will very on each individual dog e.g fight drive or combative instinct butOh, that's turning into history of the breed as we speak, I'm afraid.. I got footage of dogs who competed in the FCI WUSV and scored well but when agitated in real life (with no equipment whatsoever) their natural aggression response was nada, zero. Imagine yourself walking down the street and a punk coming to bit the crap out of you and as he approaches with visible violent intent the dog responds with nothing.
certainly we have found in the past that dog's with high prey drive and low aggression would not bight the agitator unless the dog was
stimulated in prey mode(no good for crowd control work).
Once again, Casso sounds to be what Reg wanted and man, I so wish Onyx would be still around... I would hammer Reg to get protection work on video of the dog!
Post by: Man Stopper on October 08, 2012, 11:14:52 PM
They also have the prey but channel this naturally with the desire to bite with an 'aggressive passion'..!!!
Post by: Man Stopper on October 08, 2012, 11:29:51 PM
Over all i'm pleased with Casso as he is a clear headed dog and reads the situation very well. Very little if any provocation is needed for a response.. And Onyx was also a non trained dog, therefore the helper would need to wear a helmet with the body suit, if he was off lead..
Once again, Casso sounds to be what Reg wanted and man, I so wish Onyx would be still around... I would hammer Reg to get protection work on video of the dog!
He would bite you where he would be given the opportunity, he's favourite spot to target was the whole body any part of....!!! I believe the footage on You Tube titled K9HAUS SECURITY displays his desire for the helper to challenge him and fight, with disregard for the equipment..
Post by: ben on October 08, 2012, 11:46:01 PM
And so true that the concentrated version (inbred) dogs of the past , are the 'real deal'....Sound like that is one golden piece of info that hear from people what know what they're saying.
Over all i'm pleased with Casso as he is a clear headed dog and reads the situation very well. Very little if any provocation is needed for a response..Man I noted that in Hun just recently and that got me excited!
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I believe the footage on You Tube titled K9HAUS SECURITY displays his desire for the helper to challenge him and fight, with disregard for the equipment..Fine response in that dog, he want to take the fight to the bloke, that's good.
Post by: ben on October 12, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
He's looking good, Reg! Nice expression in the last/bottom one..
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/K9HAUSCASSO.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/K9HAUSCASSO1.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/K9HAUSCASSO01.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/K9HAUSNOBLECASSO.jpg)
Post by: Man Stopper on October 13, 2012, 11:07:47 AM
I like this photo
Cadre recente cu Casso.
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/K9HAUSCASSO1.jpg)
Especially the muzzle . its as square as they come...!!
Post by: ben on October 13, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Post by: Romul on October 13, 2012, 11:23:04 PM
Casso is a very good specimen of the breed with out a doubt!!.
He has a very masculine head and strong muzzle strenght to match.
You are very lucky to have such a dog as most people would not be so lucky to own such a dog in there lifetime.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on October 13, 2012, 11:29:55 PM
Post by: Romul on October 13, 2012, 11:35:18 PM
A dog of his nature and Onyx's is very difficult to find hear in Australia,all the dog's of modern working lines
just want to chase tennis ball's all day.
Regards
sam.
Post by: ben on October 14, 2012, 12:04:10 AM
A dog of his nature and Onyx's is very difficult to find hear in Australia,all the dog's of modern working linesHmm.. sounds like what things in Europe (or most of it) look or will eventually look like.
just want to chase tennis ball's all day.
Post by: Man Stopper on October 14, 2012, 10:28:51 AM
Hello Manstopper,Thanks Sam for your view on Casso, and i visualised the last 8 years or so in having a Held Ritterberg type looking dog as you know, and i sort of came close to it in looks anyway..
Casso is a very good specimen of the breed with out a doubt!!.
He has a very masculine head and strong muzzle strenght to match.
You are very lucky to have such a dog as most people would not be so lucky to own such a dog in there lifetime.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: Man Stopper on October 15, 2012, 07:51:22 AM
You Tube K9HAUS CIVIL TEST.. I dont mind to hear peoples views and honest opinions, thats why we're here to learn IMO..
Post by: guest on October 15, 2012, 07:57:17 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 15, 2012, 08:09:16 AM
Post by: guest on October 15, 2012, 08:36:22 AM
Thanks Thara once again.. ;)You're welcome. :beer:
Post by: Sorin on October 15, 2012, 11:02:10 AM
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on October 15, 2012, 11:51:03 AM
Post by: ben on October 15, 2012, 01:52:30 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 15, 2012, 05:22:03 PM
This was taken in unfamiliar area, and tied on short lead.. Want to see how well naturally he can handle the pressure, gives a better indication of his natural ability to deal with a stressfull situation.. I must admit he will start to overload quick and be frustrated, and must release this with a bite..So short sharp sessions is what i will do from now on, every once and a while..
Get some differant footage next time round, with something at home more of a territorial guarding instinct..
Post by: ben on October 15, 2012, 10:14:59 PM
Post by: fabius.m on October 15, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fd7MmbMRVM&feature=g-all-u
very good reaction! :)
Post by: Man Stopper on October 15, 2012, 11:58:53 PM
Some (eventual) bite work on sleeve or suit will be good so you can note how much fight he brings to the table. Casso has good response, you got something good to build on that's certain. I like to see you're staying away from the typical prey work!Dani this literally is all Raw and first time this situation for Casso, so what we see is the true character of the dog..
I mean he could of been conditioned and/or trained to cover up (mask) his weak points, but at the end of the day ;
deep down the dog is as couageous as his genes are IMO..
What i see in this clip, is that his tail is high and no hackles raised, with forward movement and the rythym of barking was only defensive..
But i do like for other Forum members to give there opinion on what they see in his reaction and why ??
Like to hear what Santos thinks about Casso's reaction & why, also Roger or AXX Police tracker, as they seem to have more experience in this area i feel..
very good reaction! :)Thanks Fabius :)
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 12:05:37 AM
Some of the folk you want a response from are now more active on their own forums and only post here when they got pups to sell. The others will read your post and reply to your request :cool:
I know Roger will gladly give his view as he himself is into waiting to see what the raw dog can do! At the moment they are going through a tough health challenge, but when he has some time he'll be here.
As for Casso, I look forward to seeing more advanced work, whenever you decide to go for that :rockon: :rockon:
Post by: Romul on October 16, 2012, 08:48:03 PM
Yes Dani Manstopper does have a very good base to start with.
I endever to do more work with Casso as soon as get more time,it's difficult to get that time as i
have a young family and a small business to run.
We will keep on doing some aggitation work for a while and then introduce the bite work very soon,
i don't want to do the bite work as yet because in the past we found that introducing the bite at a much latter
stage the dog's were much better balanced(not just prey orientated).
Casso compared to his brother has a much higher prey drive so switching him into prey mode will be no problem
but like i said i do not want to turn this dog into a sport dog and i'm sure Manstopper wouldn't want that either.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 10:18:29 PM
We will keep on doing some aggitation work for a while and then introduce the bite work very soon,That sounds good, it's exactly what I do with Hun and Briska too. I will only throw in the bite equipment after several agitation sessions.
i don't want to do the bite work as yet because in the past we found that introducing the bite at a much latter
stage the dog's were much better balanced(not just prey orientated).
Casso compared to his brother has a much higher prey drive so switching him into prey mode will be no problem
but like i said i do not want to turn this dog into a sport dog and i'm sure Manstopper wouldn't want that either.
Post by: Man Stopper on October 16, 2012, 10:42:11 PM
That sounds good, it's exactly what I do with Hun and Briska too. I will only throw in the bite equipment after several agitation sessions.I am glad that Casso is calm and relaxed, and with very little provocation he has some of those traits..
With training we can mask those weak points, so it makes me think that breeding and genetics is the only way to strengthen a dogs character. My personal aim is to breed physically healthy and stable dogs for all to enjoy, and if one happens to be the type, that is sharper and not managable by your average family man/woman..
Well i'll be more than happy to take him/her :) and replace it with a more chilled out puppy..
Post by: ben on October 16, 2012, 10:47:17 PM
I am glad that Casso is calm and relaxed, and with very little provocation he has some of those traits..True, you can probably get ANY GS dog to do bite work, just in prey and everything would "look" good - emphasis on "look".
With training we can mask those weak points, so it makes me think that breeding and genetics is the only way to strengthen a dogs character.
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My personal aim is to breed physically healthy and stable dogs for all to enjoy, and if one happens to be the type, that is sharper and not managable by your average family man/woman..Reg we're on the same track here :salut:
Well i'll be more than happy to take him/her :) and replace it with a more chilled out puppy..
Post by: Man Stopper on October 19, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
This is for Sorin, hope he likes it..
Post by: guest on October 19, 2012, 10:26:35 PM
Post by: Sorin on October 20, 2012, 12:15:03 AM
Post by: fabius.m on October 20, 2012, 01:52:25 AM
Post by: prototype on October 20, 2012, 03:42:59 AM
Post by: fabius.m on October 20, 2012, 04:51:05 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 20, 2012, 08:33:48 AM
This is the first time he has been put in this situation, where helper is 2.8 metres high on top of fence..
This is a guard dogs duty and where i personally feel tests should be done more often..
Post by: prototype on October 20, 2012, 09:47:01 AM
ai un caine super smecher omule. Bravo! :rockon:
Man, you have a super dog.
Post by: prototype on October 20, 2012, 09:48:27 AM
face treaba buna Casso :cool:
Casso does a good job.
Ce varsta are Casso?
How old is Casso now?
Post by: guest on October 20, 2012, 09:53:05 AM
Thanks Prototype for translating!
Post by: prototype on October 20, 2012, 10:10:30 AM
Post by: guest on October 20, 2012, 10:11:55 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 21, 2012, 12:49:08 AM
Man Stopper, can you post Casso's pedigree here, because pedigree's link on first page doesn't work.I have NO pedigree papers for Casso but have very good knowledge on his ancestors, over the last 2 decades..
This bloodline was very hard to attain pedigree, as it was tightly held by breeder, with contracts and basiacally limited..
His Sire who we call Mad Maxx, has Security Pekahiah 4 times in the first 5 generations..
And Dam is litter sister to Yultzen Rahni, who you can see on this page..the Bi colour female..
She has Gento v haus Larwin, Fax v Grenzganger and Von Forell Vocho who was the main Stud at Von Forell Kennels..
Prototype Casso is 2 and a half years of age now..
Thanks again all.. :)
Post by: ben on October 21, 2012, 03:31:58 AM
I've had various emails from online friends telling me the situation in Australia is that many breeders (even known or popular ones) would provide false documents (sold dog carrying other blood rather than the one mentioned in the pedigree). Irony is, they likely bred to GOOD dogs but the said dogs had/have no documents. When you have to choose between a papered dog that is not that great and a non-papered dog who is great both as an individual and producer, what do you do, especially when the breed ain't doing great..? I am not standing for these things, I am just wondering myself about this.
While the document aspect (genes) is ever so important, I can't help but be on same track with one who ultimately decides to stick with a good dog, regardless of the pedigree situation. IF ONLY you could have a pedigree issued for Casso, that would be awesome...
Post by: Man Stopper on October 21, 2012, 08:47:52 PM
Why on earth are they that "tight" on all these situations with contracts and such..?Being "tight" with the contracts is all because of $$$$$$$ and nothing to do with health (hip/elbow) issues that breeders might be concerned about..
I can't help but be on same track with one who ultimately decides to stick with a good dog, regardless of the pedigree situation. IF ONLY you could have a pedigree issued for Casso, that would be awesome...
Dani paper work is great, but is only effective when the breeder has knowledge, about several of the dogs within that pedigree..Seeing them first hand; working them and testing them out..
Its all good to see titles and ratings, but this would be beneficial to those who would want to participate in sport, but not those who seek a bit more 'old school'..
I believe with the video footage and the above average knowledge i have on Casso's bloodline, is more modern and effective than simply paper work alone..
Paper work or not, let the good times roll...! :rockon:
Post by: ben on October 23, 2012, 12:56:51 AM
Dani paper work is great, but is only effective when the breeder has knowledge, about several of the dogs within that pedigree..Seeing them first hand; working them and testing them out..Titles and stuff, am really not bothered at all mate.. I've seen "titled" dogs first hand, in the yards of very (if not extremely) popular breeders and they showed no natural aggression when being challenged by an aggressor. But when they saw the sleeve they turned "protective". Yeah right..
Its all good to see titles and ratings, but this would be beneficial to those who would want to participate in sport, but not those who seek a bit more 'old school'..
I believe with the video footage and the above average knowledge i have on Casso's bloodline, is more modern and effective than simply paper work alone..
Paper work or not, let the good times roll...! :rockon:
However, when it comes to breeding I learned the lesson well, you just GOT TO KNOW THE GENES, do the homework before you decide to go breeding. I guess that's why I am giving papers their importance (and by that of course I mean pedigree, not titles). Now, you know Casso's background, that's why i said it would be cool to get them.. somehow.. and you could work your way up from there.
Post by: Man Stopper on October 23, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
So its for fun and some quick pocket money, but i feel that in my circimstance its pretty much not that case..
I feel comfortable and greatfull to have had contact with the original breeders of this rare concentrated bloodline that i have with Casso.. They 'dont make them like the way they used to'
And with there 30 years+ of knowledge and experience it gives me more faith, especially when the 'proofs in the pudding' as they say..
Post by: ben on October 23, 2012, 09:33:18 AM
The common dog without papers has been breed by an average simple minded breeder..I got a female , you got a Male German Sheperd so (ajde) lets breed, so to speak.. Which he or she has NO knowledge what so ever of the dog/bitches history..I hear you mate.
So its for fun and some quick pocket money, but i feel that in my circimstance its pretty much not that case..
I feel comfortable and greatfull to have had contact with the original breeders of this rare concentrated bloodline that i have with Casso.. They 'dont make them like the way they used to'
And with there 30 years+ of knowledge and experience it gives me more faith, especially when the 'proofs in the pudding' as they say..
I got a male dog in sight that i (potentially) want to breed Briska too, the dog comes form papered dogs but the owner didn't get them, didn't know he could do that.. but, the dog is a beast, a true beast.. that's just food for thought for now, for me... ;)
Post by: Man Stopper on October 23, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
I hear you mate.I would say you might have a good chance to get your hands on the registration papers through the breeder somehow, if he is local and understanding your situation.. A for me Dani the guy that started this bloodline via the Paternal (Sire) side of Casso, some 2 decades ago was very strict and put all his litter's on limited registration.. He had the reputation fo breeding pure 'old school' kind of dogs, and had NO problem in having them under his control, in the way of contracts...
I got a male dog in sight that i (potentially) want to breed Briska too, the dog comes form papered dogs but the owner didn't get them, didn't know he could do that.. but, the dog is a beast, a true beast.. that's just food for thought for now, for me... ;)
He actually is the same guy that visited Europe in 1992 i believe, and took footage of Hassan v Gruntal, which is on the
The Von Forell channel on You Tube .. They have Semen from Hassan v Gruntal and he has been used several times, and a few females have carried this bloodline forward at Von Forell kennels..
Mate i believe that beast that your talking about, should be UNLEASED...!!! :rockon: ;)
Post by: Romul on October 25, 2012, 05:52:55 AM
Truly a scary feeling!!.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: ben on October 25, 2012, 06:50:27 AM
He actually is the same guy that visited Europe in 1992 i believe, and took footage of Hassan v Gruntal, which is on theIt would be cool if he actually had even more footage available... :rockon:
The Von Forell channel on You Tube
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Mate i believe that beast that your talking about, should be UNLEASED...!!! :rockon: ;)All things in good time :cool:
Post by: Man Stopper on October 26, 2012, 12:30:47 AM
It would be cool if he actually had even more footage available... :rockon:All things in good time :cool:Mate you know i'll be waiting for any new development, and hey maybe some bloodline shipped over here.. ;)
Post by: ben on October 28, 2012, 02:10:06 AM
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/2012OCTPOSING030.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/2012OCTPOSING013.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/2012OCTPOSING004.jpg)
In the video he looks as if he stopped so you could get a clear shot of him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRCWpZF5m5Q
Post by: ben on October 28, 2012, 02:18:28 AM
Nu-i deloc o idee rea sa filmezi de acolo de sus, cred ca o sa incerc si eu...
Hey Reg, is this Casso? Looks to be him.. I like the reaction!! :rockon:
Hmm... not a bad idea to film from up there, not bad at all.. I hould try that too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh21YgRqrHA
Post by: guest on October 28, 2012, 02:27:52 AM
Post by: ben on October 28, 2012, 02:34:46 AM
http://canisa-zimbris.com/forum/index.php?topic=191.msg38954#msg38954 :lol:Ahh, eu tineam minte cum ca era un clip cu Casso legat la punct fix..
Post by: Man Stopper on October 28, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Reg, asta e Casso? Pare sa fie el.. imi place reactia cainelui! :rockon:This was literally first test / take, no edit or conditioning prior to filming. I am pleased with his natural reaction, and can only improve this with a bit more maturity and conditioning i like to believe.. Am glad you like my creative side in choosing a differant angle or approach to filming.. Man thats a three metre fence and at 40 kg he gave a good dozen attempts to get to helper.. I dont think that a Sport dog would go that ballistic for a sleeve TOY..
Nu-i deloc o idee rea sa filmezi de acolo de sus, cred ca o sa incerc si eu...
Hey Reg, is this Casso? Looks to be him.. I like the reaction!! :rockon:
Hmm... not a bad idea to film from up there, not bad at all.. I hould try that too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh21YgRqrHA
Post by: Man Stopper on October 28, 2012, 07:54:07 AM
Casso, final de Oct 2012They say its hard to work with animals, this footage just worked out after 2nd take.. THank God for that it does get frustrating waiting for that right shot...
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/2012OCTPOSING030.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/2012OCTPOSING013.jpg)
Its amazing how these two photo's show a differant body type, the first he looks shorter/ compact and the second pic he looks slightly taller/ longer..Man he's got that Bero vom Friedersdorfer Flur thing about him.. The front of muzzle is similar also to Lido Jamirex and Black, and nearly like Titus :rolleyes: :grin:
In the video he looks as if he stopped so you could get a clear shot of him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRCWpZF5m5Q
Thanks Dani again.. :)
Post by: ben on October 28, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
This was literally first test / take, no edit or conditioning prior to filming. I am pleased with his natural reaction, and can only improve this with a bit more maturity and conditioning i like to believe.. Am glad you like my creative side in choosing a differant angle or approach to filming.. Man thats a three metre fence and at 40 kg he gave a good dozen attempts to get to helper.. I dont think that a Sport dog would go that ballistic for a sleeve TOY..Sounds really good! Looking forward to see more clips of Casso in the following months! :rockon:
Oh, I actually believe a sport dog would go that "ballistic" for the sleeve toy, that's why they are actually notorious for, being "crazy" for a toy. In fact, if you take that side away, I wonder what the dog gets left with.. and I'm not being ironic when I say that.
Post by: ben on October 28, 2012, 08:07:01 AM
They say its hard to work with animals, this footage just worked out after 2nd take.. THank God for that it does get frustrating waiting for that right shot...:grin: I know... that keeps happening to me too, especially when going for a photo shoot. Getting good (stance) pictures of dogs is actually not tall that easy.
Post by: Man Stopper on November 03, 2012, 01:45:20 AM
I think some members might like it..
Post by: guest on November 03, 2012, 01:48:11 AM
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 01:51:50 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 03, 2012, 03:00:05 AM
But the first two generations behind him are sharp, which is good enough for me..
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 03:09:22 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 03, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 03:40:09 AM
And a head like a Bear with very rare expression found here Down Under..Cool stuff!! :rockon:
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/zoltan2.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/zoltan1.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/zoltan.jpg)
Post by: Sorin on November 03, 2012, 09:34:39 AM
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
smecher rau exemplarul astaOld school... uita-te in clip sa vezi ce gat are, zici ca e taur.
Post by: prototype on November 03, 2012, 10:39:48 AM
Post by: ben on November 03, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 06, 2012, 08:07:47 AM
Parca aduce un pic a Bodo v Rosenzweig..This dog is Bodo looking isnt he, especially the width on chest/shoulders and those paws are square round and thick.
And he seems to have older style look than Bodo himself, well thats jus my opinion..
Might have some little Bodo looking pups running around early Feb 2013, believe Zoltan will lower the prey drive and add more suspicious character.. The bitch is the litter sister to Casso, and she is wild and very highly civil in nature..
Trial and error at the end of the day, try is the least 1 can do...
Post by: ben on November 06, 2012, 08:10:46 AM
Might have some little Bodo looking pups running around early Feb 2013, believe Zoltan will lower the prey drive and add more suspicious character.. The bitch is the litter sister to Casso, and she is wild and very highly civil in nature..redjump
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Trial and error at the end of the day, try is the least 1 can do...That is and will always be the story...
And yes Zoltan looks a bit like Bodo!
Post by: Man Stopper on November 23, 2012, 05:49:26 AM
Post by: ben on November 23, 2012, 07:01:22 AM
Have a clip of Casso's litter sibling 'Castro' on You Tube titled K9HAUS CIVIL K9..Oh my goodness that's one fine reaction :rockon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guYbaFFej3U
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on November 23, 2012, 09:23:57 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on November 23, 2012, 10:14:52 AM
he is in "guard mode" or he is a little bit frustated?Good point that he isn frustrsted to get to the aggitator, and would like to mention he is not condition
He suits where there is a need for civil reaction,, and i feel that he can do excellent job for Riots...!
Post by: ben on November 23, 2012, 10:38:12 AM
,, and i feel that he can do excellent job for Riots...!:grin: that's a creative way of putting it :cool:
Post by: ben on February 04, 2013, 01:51:13 PM
Reg stop using the digital zoom on that camera, you're killing the picture quality!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgRNj1sgFXo
Post by: Man Stopper on February 04, 2013, 03:13:11 PM
The quality can be better, your right..
Post by: ben on February 05, 2013, 12:03:56 AM
Post by: guest on February 05, 2013, 01:48:47 AM
Post by: ben on February 05, 2013, 03:10:32 AM
Casso is looking very nice! He reminded me of Axa with her tyre. :cheesy::grin: chiar........ :cry:
Post by: Man Stopper on February 06, 2013, 12:34:04 AM
Is he going to undergo training of any type?Dani only some aggitation sessions in different locations and scenarios,once a month or so.
No sleeves used in the training, but use a stick of some form for a more real life situation.
His confidence has increased and would take your fingers for the weapon (stick), and he won't stop there, he's been conditoned to take multiple weapons repeatedly from the helper..
The aim is to focus on helper and expect to be challenged repeatedly, the reward is when the helper flees..
And not the weapon (toy) being his only focus, some extra paranoia I wanted to install in him, Casso loves the challenge;especially when he sees an instrument in hand..!
Post by: ben on February 06, 2013, 09:31:16 AM
Civil/natural aggression, I think that's what we should all strive to preserve in GSD's, as that is kind of fading with passing years.
Post by: 89bbo on March 15, 2013, 05:42:47 AM
he is a real one.love to see him.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 15, 2013, 02:02:47 PM
He is 3 years of age now and has turned out to be a very stable dog at home.
Post by: ben on March 16, 2013, 10:13:11 AM
He is 3 years of age now and has turned out to be a very stable dog at home.Oh wow... seems like just days ago he was introduced to the forum as a pup.. time's flying by like crazy...
Post by: Man Stopper on March 16, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
Must get hips and Elbows x rayed, interesting to see his score at 3 years of age.
Have 3 bitches which we are planning to serve.
Some solid bitches with old school bloodlines via Don v Trafalga and
Gento v haus Larwin in the mix..
Post by: ben on March 16, 2013, 11:59:39 PM
Yeah I need to get Briska and Hun x-rayed too, I hope I could do it by the end of the summer at the latest.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 17, 2013, 03:24:45 AM
Casso has Don vTrafalga nearly a dozen times in the first 7 generations, with the addition of DDR Females who also were brought into Australia along with Don (DDR)..
Plus with the addition of Gento via his Dams line, multiple times.
Please checkout K9HAUS BERO on You Tube.
He is from our recent breeding, we're expecting he will add some extra ooomph in our breeding programme.
Post by: ben on March 17, 2013, 03:38:31 AM
Casso has Don vTrafalga nearly a dozen times in the first 7 generations, with the addition of DDR Females who also were brought into Australia along with Don (DDR)..Firt 5 generations speak the loudest.
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Please checkout K9HAUS BERO on You Tube.Couldn't find anything but a sable dog, fairly big, you said RECENT breeding? Just paste here the youtube link- rightclick on the Youtube video window and select the first option (copy video URL) and then rightclick here in the reply window and select (left click) "paste" and that's it.
He is from our recent breeding, we're expecting he will add some extra ooomph in our breeding programme.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 17, 2013, 03:46:56 AM
But its a Bi colour pup approx 11weeks in video.
Uploaded recently, I hope the members get to see him.
Will have to get my brother to give me some PC lessons..
Post by: ben on March 17, 2013, 03:56:51 AM
Will have to get my brother to give me some PC lessons..I'm in a rush right now but I will make a video tutorial so you know what to do, it's not complicated at all ;)
I'll try and look it up soon, didn't find anything at first search..
Got to run now though.. I'll get back on later.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 17, 2013, 09:26:03 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 20, 2013, 05:29:49 AM
Like for you and forum members to check him out..
Post by: ben on March 20, 2013, 05:32:46 AM
Dani if you can do a search on You Tube for K9HAUS BERO.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGuLdV5Q8XM
Like for you and forum members to check him out..
This one?
Post by: guest on March 20, 2013, 05:36:49 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 20, 2013, 05:48:41 AM
Much appreciated.. ;)
He is a lovely looking pup, very rich pigmented tan for a Bi colour.
there is also another short video of him.
He is the closest I can get to a Bero or Held :grin:
Cant wait to see if he performs..
Post by: Man Stopper on March 20, 2013, 05:59:58 AM
Little terror's they are..
Post by: ben on March 20, 2013, 06:52:37 AM
K9HAUS 2013 on You Tube is our recent litter we had, Zorro and Zena our pick and keeping.Very nice looking pups, fine markings!
Little terror's they are..
Here you go mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19996lxG9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBo9PSA0sfc
Post by: Man Stopper on March 20, 2013, 03:35:43 PM
Last litter was very consistent in looks and character, I believe we have the formula for that for that old school type.
Not 100% DDR but impressive nevertheless.. ;)
Post by: ben on March 20, 2013, 10:28:41 PM
Glad to know you're hitting the recipe you're after and man these pups kook good!
Post by: Man Stopper on March 21, 2013, 07:44:17 AM
Sounds good Reg! Just give it some time before you draw a line mate, maybe another 4 months from now will show you more of what's the pitential.True Dani we can only see the true potential with time, like to believe that the spices we add give plenty of fire to the mix.
Glad to know you're hitting the recipe you're after and man these pups kook good!
This litter was Casso's litter sister mated to Zoltan, who is the old scool looking Bi colou; who is in this thread a few pages before this..
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 01:49:17 PM
So what are you thinking to build in terms of bloodline? Or should I say, "who" will you build on, which dog?
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 02:09:50 AM
I will type in again what needs doing, just to help.
Open the YouTube video and as it plays, just highlight the link up on that white long beam, rightclick and select COPY.
Then go into the forum, go to the topic you want to post the video in (in this case it's Casso), scroll down to where you type to post a reply, rightclick in that reply box and select PASTE. Then hit "preview" button just to make sure it's all good and after you see the preview, hit "post".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqR5QjOmSI
Post by: Man Stopper on March 22, 2013, 06:29:57 AM
Yes I remember Zoltan, good looking dog indeed.Basically very close linebreeding/inbreeding on Mad Maxx we call him.
So what are you thinking to build in terms of bloodline? Or should I say, "who" will you build on, which dog?
Who is the Sire of my past dog Onyx and also Sire of Casso.
And really appreciate the tutorial video, have no excuse now but learn I hope..
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 06:33:12 AM
Yeah, it's a double challenge, let me see you post a video soon :cool:
Post by: Man Stopper on March 25, 2013, 09:24:27 AM
By the way man, I really liked Onyx, he looked so nice..Dani believe it or not I'm still having trouble posting video.
Yeah, it's a double challenge, let me see you post a video soon :cool:
But have uploaded a video on You Tube and this Male is similar genetic make up of my past dog Onyx.
K9HAUS TITUS am sure you will be impressed with strength on Titus, his name does suit him.
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 09:29:29 AM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 09:32:23 AM
Dani believe it or not I'm still having trouble posting video.C'mon, you can do it!
Thanks for the hand prototype!
Titus looks pretty old (?).. bloodline..? Presuming Hardt Stobar is in the mix..
Post by: Man Stopper on March 25, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
C'mon, you can do it!Thanks for that prototype ! :)
Thanks for the hand prototype!
Titus looks pretty old (?).. bloodline..? Presuming Hardt Stobar is in the mix..
Dani he is 11 years of age here filmed yesterday.
And yes Stobar Hardt is in the bloodline along with all the other 'old bloodines' which cannot be found here in Australia often, if at all.
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 09:59:22 AM
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 10:26:11 AM
...I'm still having trouble posting video.
(http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u385/prototypon/Diferite/for_Reg_zpsa6910ab9.png)
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 10:29:34 AM
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 10:30:07 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 25, 2013, 10:44:35 AM
I was under the impression that H Stobar and some "Security" dogs are in most AU modern GS dogs.Since the mid 90's imported dogs with TITLES and well known NAMED KENNELS have increased the business$$$$ side of things,
But decreased the natural civil sharp type dogs, majority are conditioned sleeve happy dogs IMO...!
Bloodlines with Stobar Hardt and Security Pekahiah and so on , are very very rare..
A papered dog with these lines is pretty much non existent...!!!!
And will work on my skill to upload :grin:
Thanks again for your help guys...
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 10:49:42 AM
A papered dog with these lines is pretty much non existent...!!!!:drink:
Post by: Man Stopper on March 25, 2013, 05:30:47 PM
Its been nearly 2 decades since there has been a Security Pekahiah progeny.
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 10:53:29 PM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:15:14 PM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:25:35 PM
I like Norse, the way he bites the already not moving decoy, flat on the ground.
Post by: Man Stopper on March 26, 2013, 05:06:13 AM
If I'm not wrong, a video with Pekahiah (this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mH_GzxHhj-Y)) was posted here in forum.Yes this is Norse doing some training at a Prison complex.
Imi place Norse, cum se infige in atentatorul cae oricum nu schiteaza nicio miscare cand e la sol.Yes its not so common to see the desire or drive to continue the fight, without any movement of helper.
I like Norse, the way he bites the already not moving decoy, flat on the ground.
http://www.perfectstud.com.au/#/security-pekahiah/4564143560Plenty of promoting going on with this Norse son, apparently he works well in the early stages of training.
Like to witness this in person some day, and see genetics at work.
Especially with the addition of outcross genes via the Dam..(Von Forell Flori)
Post by: RogerW on March 29, 2013, 05:25:48 AM
Very nice looking pups, fine markings!
Here you go mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19996lxG9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBo9PSA0sfc
Post by: ben on March 29, 2013, 06:10:42 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on March 30, 2013, 02:11:28 AM
Very original bloodline here in Aus at the moment.
Post by: ben on March 30, 2013, 04:41:00 AM
especially these 2 who had the stable suspicious and curious characters.Typical for east German dogs.. I was reading through some more online stuff only to find this over and over again - that is, the east dogs are more active in defense.. I kind of like the sound of that. If I wanted a competition dog, I would have likely chose the west lines, but for my needs, a calm but serious guard dog is just perfect. Good on you with them pups mate.
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And the looks and markings (pigment) are the cream to the cake..!hehe.. yeah, with those looks, definitely the cream on top :grin:
Post by: Man Stopper on March 30, 2013, 10:56:20 AM
BEAUTIFUL PUPS, REG!!Thanks Roger they look even better in person, can't get my eyes of them both.
Its amazing how they act so much alike.
Quote from: ben link=topic=191suspicious cormsg44979 date=1364557260
Typical for east German dogs, a calm but serious guard dog is just perfect.Calm suspicoius and courageous, if we achieve 2 of these qualities in our breeding programn then we're more than half way there in a total packaged k9.
The courage traits are the most difficult to master in a breeding program..(GSD)
Post by: ben on April 01, 2013, 12:23:30 PM
He's looking really good mate, looks to be tiny bit fat but I could be wrong. But like I said, he's looking smashing!
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/CassoMarch2013_zps82d876b8.jpg)
Post by: guest on April 01, 2013, 12:24:47 PM
Post by: ben on April 01, 2013, 12:26:44 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 03, 2013, 08:57:55 AM
That's true old school in shape and colour, he is real in defense on top and the main thing for the future..
Post by: Man Stopper on April 03, 2013, 09:04:14 AM
My apology Dani and thanks again for that again..
He is slightly heavier than what's required in the show rating yes..!
But you know what he is going to bulk up just like a thick old style sheperd from the 60's
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 03:44:25 AM
Man Stopper, Casso is looking realy realy goot yah!!..
Dani Casso may apear to look a bit on the fat side but trust me he is not.
Casso has much body on him as he is very much old school built,as far as he's head it cerntainly is to die for.
Reg, you are most certainly very lucky to come across like Onyx for the second time round.
Genetics, what more can i say...
Regards
Sam.
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 03:48:49 AM
What it should fave read was.
Reg, your very lucky to have a dog like Onyx the second time round.
Regards
Sam.
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
And he is the closest I can get to Onyx and we are looking at keeping that genetic strain for decades to come.
Those semen collections are a must this time round, frozen for years to come and brought back for the attack.. :grin:
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 03:56:10 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 03:59:22 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 04:16:13 AM
Google search Von Forell Vulcan or View Von Forell Gento on PDB .Von Forell Vulcan $4000 Stud fee
Its been nearly 2 decades since there has been a Security Pekahiah progeny.
Or $6000 for 6 breeding units..
Now that's some pricey genetics..!
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 04:24:19 AM
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 04:35:11 AM
Ah Dani never 100% happy, but can't complain ;)I know exactly what you mean!
I was just told recently Boban was sold for a HUGE amount as well.
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 04:38:09 AM
Show Kris the MONEY!!!!.I got 40 kilo's of gold in the yard Sam.
$3000 an ounce for those who need it..
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 04:52:18 AM
Loved him from the moment i saw him...
Sam.
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 04:58:05 AM
Boban,what a FU#@!NG dog.Boban killer dog, killer dog...!!
Loved him from the moment i saw him...
Sam.
Post by: Johnsk9 on April 04, 2013, 06:26:16 AM
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:15:03 AM
Unfortunately as a producer he did not score too high.. but I guess his lines carry the elements John mentioned.
I would love to have Boban right in front of me and make many, many videos of the dog but heck I would not breed to him, no way. I appreciate the dog and that's where things end.
Post by: Johnsk9 on April 04, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:27:51 AM
What do you do with him ??????????????Does not make senceFrom a breeding stand point, I would have thought one would keep him for breeding purpose hoping that the dog will reproduce itself in the pups even to a light degree but obviously that's not the case with Boban, unfortunately.
Other than that, I guess one could use a dog like that in harsh environments; in Romania some have problems with gypsies who would regularly rob them. A Boban would fit in the picture really well.
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 07:28:34 AM
And faults especially many faults should be not re produced
Full stop.!
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 07:32:20 AM
Other than that, I guess one could use a dog like that in harsh environments; in Romania some have problems with gypsies who would regularly rob them. A Boban would fit in the picture really well.I think those Sharplaninac would do the job pretty well also..
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:33:57 AM
Dominating dogs are not suited to know 1.That's actually true. While many strive to have this type of "tough dog", ever since having Hun and Briska, I learned that actually a calm but serious dog is likely more "healthy" to have. Who needs unwanted surprises..?
And faults especially many faults should be not re produced
Full stop.!
Boban went for the belly of his own owner, for no specific reason. He was sold soon after. The dog changed a few owners already. Out of respect for some people out there, I will limit the info to what I've said so far. But I am sure you get my drift.. I mean, yeah, we want tough dogs, but not to the point of being in danger.
Like I said I still admire a dog that is tough to those extremes but such a dog NEEDS to be in then right hands. The irony is, if he does not reproduce anything good, from a GSD breeding point of view, the dog is useless.
Post by: Johnsk9 on April 04, 2013, 07:36:45 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 07:44:17 AM
He's beyond most to handle, unless you carry a machete..!
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 07:49:35 AM
John I guess bloat is in the line, big time. This keeps coming up.. again, such a shame..
Post by: Johnsk9 on April 04, 2013, 08:14:43 AM
What can we say.. that's a shame.. nowadays we hardly see some really tough dogs and we like it or not, these dogs always have had some sort of x factor and some breed fans admired them but it sounds like as far as Boban goes, there's more to be said on the negative side.. that's such a shame..When you find such a good dog you would have to think of breeding this dog so you can keep this type. But you can not do so when there are so many faults as he had past on. Even the women you was given Boban to breed did not keep him long maybe a year.And the pups from him did show the same problems that must be why he was sol.Now he was sold again and again.If you do see any sons or daughters of his you do not say WOW. You have to think there is more to the dog then how he looks or if he bits or not or how much drive he has or does not have.But if you can not breed this dog with out many major problems it is just not useful to try and breed for future stock
John I guess bloat is in the line, big time. This keeps coming up.. again, such a shame..
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 11:44:43 AM
Post by: Johnsk9 on April 04, 2013, 12:00:47 PM
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 12:26:12 PM
I know you and i talk about breeding often and all the dogs from that line are the real ddr type.It is to bad the problems are so many.Yeah... it's the breed, man, isn't it... health and temperament issues are there in the mix and responsible breeders are doing what they can to avoid that when breeding..
Post by: Man Stopper on April 04, 2013, 06:10:52 PM
Yeah... it's the breed, man, isn't it... health and temperament issues are there in the mix and responsible breeders are doing what they can to avoid that when breeding..What I seen and heard in the last 2 decades is breeders like to take advantage of naive and inexperienced new ententhusiasts. Making claims of there new import stock is top class.
Even to the point of stating that this is the Stud dog, when in actual fact is not.
A black dog is a black dog and easy to manipulate the mating.
Paper work is all manipulated and misleading.
Post by: Romul on April 04, 2013, 06:22:53 PM
Sam.
Post by: ben on April 04, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
What I seen and heard in the last 2 decades is breeders like to take advantage of naive and inexperienced new ententhusiasts. Making claims of there new import stock is top class.I keep hearing that mean.. I understand and respect that you guys don't mention names and let me just say some of these names are being talked about in other (online) places. It's not the nature of this forum to have an eye on these people but be sure to know things don't go unnoticed.
Even to the point of stating that this is the Stud dog, when in actual fact is not.
A black dog is a black dog and easy to manipulate the mating.
Paper work is all manipulated and misleading.
While I support the idea of breeding to a no-paper dog that PROVES to produce quality pups with different bitches, I also support the thought that this type of breeding should be done on "opened stage", I guess kind of like I did with Axa's second litter.
Also, I believe that, in some cases, one who buys a dog that has a parent different to that specified on paper, but the dog is actually smashing good, if one then goes ballistic over the paper detail, one is a bit of a weirdo, if they wanted a good dog and not have breeding in plan.
If I would not breed GSD's, I couldn't care less if my dog came from a paper mother and a no paper father (or the other way around) as long as the dog is all I want it to be.
But the truth remains that, one who strives to serve the breed, has to consider papers. I will say though, that this very truth or concept is under attack, since most of the paper "top" dogs of our days are "crap" dogs (excuse my choice of words). That is one of the reasons I chose to go to John, as I try and stay close to the old blood as much as that is possible, since "modern" blood is compromised. That's my most noble option (old blood with papers), my second option being to look at old school, no paper dogs. Am not afraid to admit it. But even there, I've seen some of those old school dogs producing pups and they DO NOT reproduce themselves (with some exceptions)... so again one has to stop and think and do things "by the book".. genes!
DNA....Yes, simple and practical (though expansive in some cases).
Sam.
Post by: ben on April 07, 2013, 01:26:24 PM
Here you go mate ;)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/VIDEO0100_0000020651_1_zps578bad42.jpg)
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/VIDEO0100_0000020854_1_zpsd9aeb410.jpg)
Post by: prototype on April 07, 2013, 01:27:59 PM
Post by: ben on April 07, 2013, 01:31:10 PM
Post by: guest on April 07, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 07, 2013, 11:51:47 PM
She is a solid bitch with many special qualities, we are thrilled to have her.
She has that forechest and head we want to reproduce over and over..
Held Ritterberg style :)
Post by: ben on April 08, 2013, 03:28:56 AM
What bloodlines does she carry?
Held Ritterberg style :)
Post by: Man Stopper on April 09, 2013, 01:30:33 AM
What bloodlines does she carry?She has Don v Trafalga 8 times in the 8 generations - via Stobar Hardt and Security Pekahia.
Combined with Fax Grenzganger and Gento v haus Larwin several times in the 6 generations.
I just picture that Tara v Wildenbruch look about her as an adult.
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 03:29:23 AM
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/daniddr/K9%20Haus/Cassomay2013_zps5c34a476.jpg)
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 03:37:17 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 09, 2013, 03:46:52 AM
And Ye I guess the eyes are smaller possibly like Nero.
And the body is around the same with extra thick coat.
64 cm 40 kg.
I tried to get an old school type photo about his stance and expression.
He's a cool relaxed dog for today's laws here in Aus..
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 03:50:28 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 09, 2013, 04:02:12 AM
He can be free with pulic and other dogs in the park,no problem him being a threat.
But he won't allow to be touched, he makes that clear.
He has that control with power..!
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 04:09:40 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 09, 2013, 08:35:09 AM
Hun doesn't even look at any dog around if I got anything in my hand. He's ok with people but starts barking if anyone stands close to me for more than a minute or two. I like that about him.I know what you mean about the obsession.
The drive is very high with the blodline I'm aiming to reproduce constantly.
From dried up grape leaves to picking up bricks, my last two dogs have been insane to have somthing in the mouth to chew. Casso has natural suspicion and has matured nicely in confidence with reading the situation.
I'm happy to see one day soon his genetics passed on.
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 11:19:44 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 09, 2013, 11:15:30 PM
Like i said before sounds like you found what you were looking for. :cool:Always looking for that extra quality, which is part of the fun.
With genetics its easier to find those attributes..:-)
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 11:18:15 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 09, 2013, 11:23:34 PM
I would say it's 99% genetics and 1% pure luck! ;)Well Ye if those genetics were easier to come by, otherwise we need Lotto luck..
Post by: ben on May 09, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
Post by: RogerW on May 10, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on May 10, 2013, 11:08:56 PM
Very nice, MS!! Hope all is well with you! :)Thanks Roger and all is well.
Casso has matured nicely and is a pleasure to own, and enjoy the compliments from the general public.
They think his come from the wild forest or something of that nature..:-)
Post by: Romul on June 10, 2013, 04:37:05 AM
You should very happy with what you have in your backyard,not many people
have the opportunity to own a dog like Onyx and yet you have been blessed
twice.
Casso truly embodies those what we call old quality's "Stobar".
Good luck mate...
Sam.
Post by: Man Stopper on June 12, 2013, 04:05:24 AM
Yes some extra Stobar Hardt and Ex v Riedstern DDR sharpness.
I think with Vello sieben.. multiple times up close with Bodo & Bernd
Rolf Osnobrucker lineage I very much like.
Keep the blood tight for the next decade..