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Offline Leo Pui

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2010, 09:51:35 AM »
Quote from: "zimbris"
Leo I'm glad you are open to comments ;)
I read u very well, wink!

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My first initial reaction to the video was that it did seem too long a workout for such a young dog..
But after reading Leo's post, i can understand he has little time with Martin to do some training,which we can understand..
I would agree with Dux and his approach in regards to training a young dog of such age, but as Dani mentioned there probally is no right or wrong way about it..
At the end of the day; genetics plays a major role..! I personally IMO feel that after 14 months the dog is stronger mentally, through socialisation and training of biting(re bites) many differant objects; in very short sessions (3-4 times) a week is my method.
It is good for discussion sake, again .. to each dog, there is always the different view and the level of understanding cannot be definite in any way unless there is a fine guideline ... I am not trying to "cover" what we do, we believe we have our set of "reading" dog reaction and we are quite comfortable in-pushing the limits, on the other word, we know when to stop the pushing  8-)  8-)
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2010, 10:01:31 AM »
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The dog still want to bite at the end of this exercice, only the quality of the bite was not so good.
If you see less determination maybe try to do another job.
Determination has nothing to do with phisical condition.
I have seen dogs fighting to the end of their stamina and still not surender and wisky did not surender.
Hey Bogdan, I do share the same agreement on your comment.  Like I said early, without seeing the real dog in actual work, one is having difficulties to read the dog well!

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At the end of the day; genetics plays a major role..!

yes, strongly agree. But also it is very easy to spoil a dog's potential by applying training methods that do not really suit that individual potential.
Not trying to argue and to win over the debate.  Let just put it this way ... u have your point, which I agreed!  Now, based on individual dog in this particular video, I believe ... Wisky handle the training quite well  ;)  ;)
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2010, 10:11:44 AM »
Leo, I think it's good we can talk this type of things through and through and i /we deffinitelly appreciate your response to comments on the video   :mrgreen:
Point in case is, we have different views on this or that and there is probably no common line for all of us, different goals require different approaches and training types.
Thank you for you patience in going through posts and replies - especially since you are so busy these days!!    :)  e mult mai bine asa decat sa spunem "vai ce frumos lucreaza etc etc... tipul de postari pe care-l vedem destul de des in multe forumuri..   1bere

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2010, 10:25:01 AM »
Quote from: "zimbris"
Leo, I think it's good we can talk this type of things through and through and i /we deffinitelly appreciate your response to comments on the video   :mrgreen:
Point in case is, we have different views on this or that and there is probably no common line for all of us, different goals require different approaches and training types.
Thank you for you patience in going through posts and replies - especially since you are so busy these days!!    ;)  1grr   One more training session with them before they are leaving on Nov 06, 2010 for Singapore.  And they are now in thick jungle exploring the Mulu Caves  :mrgreen: That's their "Reward" for training with us <wink-wink>!
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2010, 10:42:39 AM »
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Busy, indeed ... doesnt have enough times to cover all ...   :mrgreen: That's their "Reward" for training with us <wink-wink>!
wow...   :tare:

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2010, 10:48:09 AM »
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Busy, indeed ... doesnt have enough times to cover all ...   :mrgreen: That's their "Reward" for training with us <wink-wink>!
wow...   ;)  :mrgreen:  1ha
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2010, 11:05:44 AM »
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Busy, indeed ... doesnt have enough times to cover all ...   :mrgreen: That's their "Reward" for training with us <wink-wink>!
wow...   ;)  :mrgreen:  :tare:     ;)

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2010, 11:10:39 AM »
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well, again..  ;)
Thank You Zimnbris  :mrgreen:
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2010, 08:14:38 AM »
Would like to see Viner in action he's a gun...!

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2010, 10:43:04 AM »
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Would like to see Viner in action he's a gun...!
Check here ... http://http://www.canisa-zimbris.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=207&p=6289#p6289
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2011, 09:55:20 AM »
Look at his WHITE Teeths  :lol:



Wisky is currently living with my friend on co-ownership  :)
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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2011, 11:45:43 AM »
hey, nice teeth set over there   :lol:

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Re: Wisky Stress in Malaysia
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2011, 08:25:01 PM »
hey, nice teeth set over there   :lol: 
;)
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