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Re: Puppy test
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2010, 11:09:06 AM »
Was looking at some puppy testing  videos, and was wondering is it important to test for gun shy or fire cracker testing...!
I mean how can we benifit from a dog for todays society and general purpose in this day and age.
We just need a dog for company and protection if i am wrong...It would be different for the army or government...

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Ma uitam la niste clipuri video cu testari pt catei si ma intrebam daca este sau nu important testul cu arma de foc sau petarde...!
Vreau sa spun, cum putem beneficia de un caine in societatea moderna, in scopurile generale ale zilelor erei noastre.
Avem nevoie de un caine de companie so protectie daca ma insel... poate e diferit pt armata sau institutiile guvernamentale...

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Re: Puppy test
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2010, 04:47:35 AM »
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
Was looking at some puppy testing  videos, and was wondering is it important to test for gun shy or fire cracker testing...!
I mean how can we benifit from a dog for todays society and general purpose in this day and age.
We just need a dog for company and protection if i am wrong...It would be different for the army or government...

I personally believe we do need the gun or cracker testing, whether it's to do with dogs for the society purposes or personal protection or army etc.. In either case, you want dogs with healthy, stable nerves especially if these dogs will also have progenies!

personal cred ca este nevoie de testul cu arma de foc sau petarde, fie ca e vorba de cainele de copanie, protectie, armata etc.. in oricare din cazuri, este nevoie de un caine cu nervi puternici, stabili, mai ales daca se pune in vorba si reproducerea acestor caini!

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2010, 09:30:13 AM »
Your right Dani we must not breed sound sensitive dogs, as it is a trait which many dogs have.. I like the video clips and there different methods in training young pups for noise tollerance.. Will apply this type of training for my next dog in the future.. Wish i was in Europe or the States to get a better chance of getting a DDR/CZECH bloodline ..

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2010, 10:15:06 AM »
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Your right Dani we must not breed sound sensitive dogs, as it is a trait which many dogs have.. I like the video clips and there different methods in training young pups for noise tollerance.. Will apply this type of training for my next dog in the future.. Wish i was in Europe or the States to get a better chance of getting a DDR/CZECH bloodline ..

What do you have in mind, what 'blood' are you going to pursue with your next pup..?

Ce planuri ai, ce sange ai in vedere cand te gandesti la viitorul tau catel?

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2010, 10:30:07 PM »
Ce planuri ai, ce sange ai in vedere cand te gandesti la viitorul tau catel?[/quote]
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What do you have in mind, what 'blood' are you going to pursue with your next pup..?

Well here in Australia we have a mixture of west and Czech dogs, and some kind of DDR lines, but nothing of 100% DDR combo..
So will carry on with Onyx line combined with some addition of working lines from local and international lines.. And then mate Onyx with daughter ( 1-2), via artificial insamination if all goes to plan.. But am happy with Onyx and his overall character, although would like to see atouch bigger version of him, between 25 - 26 inches.. You can assist us with some Nero semen ;) if the fee is not to much...

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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2010, 03:17:52 AM »
How old is Onyx now?

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2010, 05:44:50 AM »
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How old is Onyx now?
He is 8 years of age and i know that i might just of left it a bit late.
If this is the case then i shall use  Onyx's, half brother  "Oscar...( they share the same sire )
"Oscar is 5 years of age and has the same level of balanced defensive aggression and has bigger size body.
Oscar is 1-2 on his sire, (Max) who is the reason these dogs have this character (natural aggresetivity )...

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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2010, 12:17:46 PM »
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He is 8 years of age and i know that i might just of left it a bit late.
If this is the case then i shall use  Onyx's, half brother  "Oscar...( they share the same sire )
"Oscar is 5 years of age and has the same level of balanced defensive aggression and has bigger size body.
Oscar is 1-2 on his sire, (Max) who is the reason these dogs have this character (natural aggresetivity )...

What good females are there 'in the area'?  Did you get to see any of Osacr's progenies?

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2010, 05:11:06 PM »
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What good females are there 'in the area'? Did you get to see any of Osacr's progenies?
Well i have a female who's on PDB - Zonkrulahous Iris, she is a nice stable female with plenty drive,good confirmation and size,with a nice pedigree.
As for Oscar he has not been used also,so cant say he's a good producer, although both Oscar and Onyx are heavily line bred over and over on well known dogs here.. These 2 dogs (Stobar Hardt and Security Pekiah)in particular have been kept by Von Forell as stored semen for nearly 2 decades, and in a sense gave Von Forell a reputation for producing security dogs, before he introduced overseas lines.. Eg; Gento v Haus Larwin, Kuran v Teikerhook And Asa v haus Gebbets to name a few.. These international dogs gave more prey drive and sport type behaviour, but not the balls and grunt of Stobar Hardt and Security Pekiah who are closely line bred on Ex Reidstern.
So have faith that Oscar fingers crossed, Onyx can throw some naturally aggressive dogs,well 1 or 2 atleast in a litter..

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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 03:58:13 AM »
I don't know if I asked you this before.. did Onyx have any progenies before, if yes, where can we have a look at them..?  Stobar Hardt seems to be present in the blood of many good dogs.

Nu mai stiu daca te-am intrebat.. ai mai avut catei din Onix si daca da, unde ii putem vedea si noi..? Stobar Hardt e prezent insangele multor caini buni.

manstopper il are pe Onyx:
manstopper owns Onyx:




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« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 04:52:38 AM »
Ohh... look what i found  ;)


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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 07:54:15 AM »
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I don't know if I asked you this before.. did Onyx have any progenies before, if yes, where can we have a look at them..? Stobar Hardt seems to be present in the blood of many good dogs.

No progenies of Onyx at all, tried once in 2008 but he didnt know what to do/not interested in a sense.. Then a year later tried to get collection and this was a nightmare for the vet and nurse,he became really wild when some stranger tried to jerk him off :shock: There was a female on heat exactly on the 11th day,but he didnt care.. Its been only until recently that i feel that i must do something about restoring his bloodline but not with any female...
Yes like i said dogs like Stobar Hardt and Security Pekiah were well known in Ausralia for producing some naturally sharp dogs,and there is stored semen at
Von Forell waiting to be used apparently to the right bitch..
Regalhaus Kennels has Security Lex semen for $10,000 and Lex is a Security Pekiah Son, you can view a Lex son on You Tube (Regalhaus Jet).. Similar type dogs at Regalhaus Kennels only bigger than Onyx,but still not as sharp as Onyx IMO..

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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 08:01:15 AM »
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Ohh... look what i found ;)


Dani thats some creativity there,very artistic i must say.. Picture tells a thousand words,but the title adds the cream on the cake...!!!!
Thanks so much for that, just freaking me out..!!!!

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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2010, 08:18:30 AM »
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Dani thats some creativity there,very artistic i must say.. Picture tells a thousand words,but the title adds the cream on the cake...!!!!
Thanks so much for that, just freaking me out..!!!!
Just having a little bit of fun ;)

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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2010, 08:23:33 AM »
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I don't know if I asked you this before.. did Onyx have any progenies before, if yes, where can we have a look at them..? Stobar Hardt seems to be present in the blood of many good dogs.

No progenies of Onyx at all, tried once in 2008 but he didnt know what to do/not interested in a sense.. Then a year later tried to get collection and this was a nightmare for the vet and nurse,he became really wild when some stranger tried to jerk him off :shock: There was a female on heat exactly on the 11th day,but he didnt care.. Its been only until recently that i feel that i must do something about restoring his bloodline but not with any female...
Yes like i said dogs like Stobar Hardt and Security Pekiah were well known in Ausralia for producing some naturally sharp dogs,and there is stored semen at
Von Forell waiting to be used apparently to the right bitch..
Regalhaus Kennels has Security Lex semen for $10,000 and Lex is a Security Pekiah Son, you can view a Lex son on You Tube (Regalhaus Jet).. Similar type dogs at Regalhaus Kennels only bigger than Onyx,but still not as sharp as Onyx IMO..

It's good you're taking the blood aspects seriously. I would chose sharpness before size if it were by me...
I've seen the Regalhaus footage on youtube, I liked some of what I've seen.