Post by: guest on January 30, 2010, 08:21:49 AM
Textele de lege din vechiul drept german atesta, de asemenea, nu numai consideratia care se acorda acestor caini cu calitati exceptionale, dar si modul de urmarire si prindere a raufacatorilor, precizand despre cainii de urmarire ca : “tinuti de curea merg inaintea stapanului, conducandu-l la ascunzisul banditilor”.
Dresajul cainilor de paza, aparare si urmarire era cunoscut de germani inaintea anului 1473, dar in aceeasi vreme se pare ca si englezii cunosteau bine cainele de politie, intrucat se presupune ca manualul de dresaj editat de germani la 1560, este intocmit dupa un model englez.
De retinut ca se implinesc aproape 100 de ani de cand s-au incercat primele tatonari de folosire a cainelui in politie, bazate pe exceptionalele sale calitati privind mirosul, auzul, vigilenta, mobilitatea, supletea, docilitate, unite cu un curaj fara de margini, fidelitate, atasament si abnegatie pana la sacrificiu, ce fac din el un neintrecut instrument al organelor de asigurare a ordinii publice.
Folosirea cainelui de catre organele de ordine are in vedere urmarirea si prinderea hotilor, descoperirea persoanelor disparate, a cadavrelor ascunse sau ingropate, escortare, aparare.
Randamentul ridicat al acestor caini este urmarea unei selectii riguroase si a unui dresaj de calitate superioara, efectuate in mod sistematic.
Meritul de a-I fi introdus pentru prima data in serviciul politiei (de unde si-au capatat si numele de caini politisti) revine francezilor. D.Salloue a dresat primul caine din serviciul de politie al Frantei, cu numele de Leni, autorul arestarii a doi braconieri pescari, urmariti in mijlocul Mosellei si imobilizati intr-un coridor al unei case din marginea orasului.
Mai tarziu, dupa 1890, au inceput sa foloseasa calitatile lor in acest serviciu belgienii si germanii, urmati de italieni, englezi, elvetieni si austrieci, precum si multi altii. Rezultatele obtinute cu acesti caini au fost de-a dreptul uimitoare, in toate revistele de specialitate se recunostea importanta lor antiinfractionala.
In Romania, pana la Primul Razboi Mondial nu au fost preocupari privind folosirea acestor caini in politie, ci numai in serviciul armatei insa si aici fara rezultate spectaculoase, atat din cauza lipsei unor specialisti pentru a-i dresa cat si a existentei unui material biologic lipsit de valoare.
Dat fiind faptul ca dupa Primul Razboi Mondial criminalitatea a inregistrat in intreaga lume o crestere ingrijoratoare, a sporit si mai mult valoarea acestor caini, ceea ce a determinat ca toate tarile din Europa, inclusiv Jandarmeria din Romania, sa-si procrue si sa foloseasca cu success acest exceptional animal.
In serviciul armatelor germane si franceze din Primul Razboi Mondial au fost folositi numerosi caini din rasa Ciobanesc German, care realmente au contribuit la obtinerea unor victorii in lupte, asa cum a fost batalia de la 15 iulie 1918, repurtata de armatele franceze, unde au fost apreciati in mod deosebit cainii de legatura, carora le-au fost aduse elogii in ziarele vremii, care s-au incheiat cu cuvinte mari, precum: “Braves bettes bien dresses qui meritent aussi d’etre a l’honneur”. Cainii folositi in lupte au indurat toate privatiunile razboiului. Din cei 13.000 de caini folositi in lupte, multi au fost raniti si mutilati, iar 25% au cazut pe campul de onoare. De aceea, acesti “soldati” cu patru labe, cu livret si uniforma au fost chiar decorati de unii generali si maresali francezi; in acest sens arhivele Ministerului de Razboi din aceasta tara ne pot oferi numeroase dovezi.
S-a incercat si la noi in tara in perioada Primului Razboi Mondial sa fie folositi pentru transportul ranitilor si a munitiei, insa neavand nici un dresaj de baza, rezultatele nu au fost cele asteptate.
Inainte de cel de-al Doilea Razboi Mondial, o serie de tari precum Germania, Franta, URSS au organizat unele piste pentru antrenarea cainilor de razboi in scopul folosirii lor ca santinele in punctele vulnerabile, pentru trimiterea de stiri, ordine, informatii trupelor sau cu care (din diferite motive) comunicarea era greu de realizat, precum si ca cercetasi in zonele ocupate de inamic.
Zeci si sute de mii de caini, indeosebi din rasa Ciobanesc German si-au adus contributia la esuarea partiala sau totala a unor planuri de lupta ale inamicului. Se afirma ca Marea Britanie si America, desi s-au hotarat mai tarziu sa antreneze si sa utilizeze cainii ciobanesti in cea de-a doua conflagratie mondiala, au depus mari eforturi valutare pentru achizitionarea si dresarea lor. De exemplu, in America s-a constituit o organizatie de antrenare a cainilor, cunoscuta in acea vreme sub numele de “Organizatia Cainilor pentru Aparare”.
In perioada 1942 – 1944 armata Americana a primit peste 20.000 de Ciobanesti Germani, care valorau cam 2 milioane de dolari (dintre acestia aproximativ 10.000 au fost folositi efectiv pentru a aduce o serie de servicii razboiului). Scolile infiintate au antrenat cainii pentru a aduce servicii fortelor aeriene si armatei (ca elemente de santinela, patrula, panada, cercetare) si pentru alte ramuri care puteau folosi asemenea caini.
Cainele Lup - crestere si utilitate, 1984
Post by: dux on January 30, 2010, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: Thara
Se afirma ca la inceput toti cainii au fost folositi pentru paza si aparare si ca dintre acestia s-a diferentiat cainele de politie, care anterior a insotit paznicii de noapte.cartea este scrisa de Mihai Santa si Florin Santa.colectia Caleidoscop.bravo .felicitari.ma bucur ca nu suntem singuri in promovarea adevaratului ciobanesc german.
Textele de lege din vechiul drept german atesta, de asemenea, nu numai consideratia care se acorda acestor caini cu calitati exceptionale, dar si modul de urmarire si prindere a raufacatorilor, precizand despre cainii de urmarire ca : “tinuti de curea merg inaintea stapanului, conducandu-l la ascunzisul banditilor”.
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Post by: guest on January 30, 2010, 04:26:58 PM
Quote from: dux
cartea este scrisa de Mihai Santa si Florin Santa.colectia Caleidoscop.bravo .felicitari.ma bucur ca nu suntem singuri in promovarea adevaratului ciobanesc german.Multumesc!
Pun si cateva poze,mai vechi si mai noi.
Sursa (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?127816-Dogs-in-the-Army) - sute de fotografii foarte frumoase!
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/ea1cmv.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CanineMascotOfTheEscadrilleLafayett.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/dhu3arg1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/hist2.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/hist7.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/pes_8.jpg)
Post by: bobo70 on January 30, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: "Thara"
Quote from: "dux"cartea este scrisa de Mihai Santa si Florin Santa.colectia Caleidoscop.bravo .felicitari.ma bucur ca nu suntem singuri in promovarea adevaratului ciobanesc german.Multumesc!
Pun si cateva poze,mai vechi si mai noi.
Sursa (http://http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?127816-Dogs-in-the-Army) - sute de fotografii foarte frumoase!
(http://http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/pes_8.jpg)
Super pozele.
In asta cred ca sesizati ce drapel are pe maneca soldatul?
Post by: guest on January 31, 2010, 01:40:52 AM
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/02299oid456752200yo1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/brit0042v.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/DSC06194.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/DSC06195.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/95449010fq4.jpg)
Mancs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancs_%28dog%29)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/800px-Sculpture_mancsdog_miskolc.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/800px-Mancs_statue_2006.jpg)
Sursa pozelor este tot cea de mai sus.
Post by: zimbris on January 31, 2010, 10:27:30 AM
Post by: zimbris on February 18, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
[youtube:26gvtzd1]NqEPWo_5anU[/youtube:26gvtzd1]
Post by: guest on February 18, 2010, 11:45:58 AM
Post by: bobo70 on February 18, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
Post by: zimbris on February 21, 2010, 08:19:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TQ1axs7weM
Post by: guest on February 21, 2010, 08:26:26 AM
Post by: bobo70 on February 21, 2010, 08:55:28 AM
Sau ca in vorba aia: "ramanea cu un picior mai scurt si cu unul si mai scurt" 1ha
Post by: zimbris on February 27, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
deci, sa dam intaietate "batranilor" :) Masculul din poza asta are 10 ani iar Dux (agitatorul) poate sa va spuna ce potential avea cainele chiar si la o asemenea varsta
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdh10QNAI/AAAAAAAAA9s/WhrFPJGweqk/s1024/DSC_0380.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdguX0GqI/AAAAAAAAA88/YSnKxqZ0vFk/s1024/DSC_0366.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdg-KyIUI/AAAAAAAAA9E/X-rnJChnAOY/s1024/DSC_0367.jpg)
Un 'sir' de caini din "scoala veche", tipul clasic de CG
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gde2gWo2I/AAAAAAAAA8A/H9wVOIz0RAM/s1024/DSC_0262.jpg)
asta imi aduce aminte de Ben (ca si aspect), la fel si al 2lea caine din poza de deasupra
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdlJ95YiI/AAAAAAAAA_I/SIhitAWA2gU/s640/DSC_0145.jpg) (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdi0YsMCI/AAAAAAAAA-E/ZIKQwZ0-iA4/s640/DSC_0135.jpg)
cautare droguri:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdfhcw-vI/AAAAAAAAA8g/eLRixkOH4E4/s1024/DSC_0342.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdjoPaHeI/AAAAAAAAA-U/wIosSLjR0Z4/s640/DSC_0201.jpg)
Post by: guest on February 27, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
Post by: zimbris on February 27, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdev7HgwI/AAAAAAAAA78/Wh1cPmW2NEQ/s1024/DSC_0222.jpg)
Post by: dux on February 27, 2010, 01:20:17 PM
cainele de zece ani avea o izbitura in infractor foarte puternica.te dadea jos.la varsta aia facea misiuni de patrulare pe frontiera.asta insemna ,,mars'' de cel putin 10 km.
anul trecut mi-a murit un caine de la baneasa(babesioza) foarte bun.se duceau cu el in misiuni de prindere a braconierilor.ala musca pe viu.nu se juca.cand il trimetea in atac se baga si in balta dupa braconier.avea calitati naturale de caine de protectie.nu vazuse in viata lui costum special de protectie dar atunci cand trebuia sa-si faca treaba si-o facea bine de tot.
those dogs were all awesome. first of all they were very sound and healthy. no fear whatsoever. even when the handlers were being somewhat more 'hard' on them.
The 10 year old one had a very powerful hit, could easily take you down. at that age he was still doing border patrol work which involves 10 km marching.
Last year we lost a very good patrol dog, from Baneasa. that dog was used to catch poachers. he meant business, no fooling at all. He used to also get the poacher right in a pond sometimes. he had natural guarding qualities. He never saw a bitesuit in his life still when he had to do his job he was not kidding around.
Post by: guest on February 28, 2010, 02:53:38 AM
Primele poze sunt de la Campionatul international de dresaj al cainilor de frontiera( 2005 cred - nu sunt sigura, mai am decat pozele,nu si articolul)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera2.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera3.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera4.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera5.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera.jpg)
Mai jos, poze dintr-un articol despre cainii Jandarmeriei.
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie2.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie1.jpg)
Si cateva particele dintr-un articol despre Scoala de la Ciorani.
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CGantitutun.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/IMG.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Police_dog.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/droguri1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/droguri.jpg)
Post by: DogPassion on February 28, 2010, 05:43:21 AM
Keep doing the good work ;)
Post by: zimbris on February 28, 2010, 06:29:32 AM
..parca mi se face putin pielea de gaina cand vad pozele astea.. imi aduc aminte din nou si din nou de cainii de-acum cativa ani buni...
Thara, multam ca ti-ai facut timp pt scanat si postat
...si ce super e poza asta cu catelul si fetitza!!!
(http://http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera4.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on February 28, 2010, 09:14:33 AM
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=148930913887
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=88428998223
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/28141967/first-line-of-defense.htm
Post by: guest on February 28, 2010, 10:08:06 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
[youtube:2b5o1ybn]LYfGACqTCUk[/youtube:2b5o1ybn]Foarte frumos clipul.
http://http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=148930913887
http://http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=88428998223
Puiul din poza cu fetita seamana leit cu Rocky al meu, cand era cam pe la aceeasi varsta.
Post by: dux on February 28, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: Thara
Am gasit si scanat niste poze din ceva articole publicate in revista Dog Magazin, de acum cativa ani buni.pozele sunt de la penultimul campionat.in 2006 a fost organizat ultimul campionat.am avut privilegiul sa fiu numit de conducerea Inspectoratului General coorganizator.atunci au participat pentru prima oara si civilii.
Primele poze sunt de la Campionatul international de dresaj al cainilor de frontiera( 2005 cred - nu sunt sigura, mai am decat pozele,nu si articolul)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera2.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera3.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera4.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera5.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CIdedresajalcainilordefrontiera.jpg)
Mai jos, poze dintr-un articol despre cainii Jandarmeriei.
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie2.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Jandarmerie1.jpg)
Si cateva particele dintr-un articol despre Scoala de la Ciorani.
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/CGantitutun.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/IMG.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/Police_dog.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/droguri1.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/Kamy_022/Site/droguri.jpg)
multi dintre baietii din poze imi sunt prieteni sau amici.
dan grajdeanu-acum la jandarmeria din ploiesti,petrescu si tudose sunt la politia din ploiesti.
Post by: guest on March 01, 2010, 02:00:19 AM
Quote from: dux
pozele sunt de la penultimul campionat.in 2006 a fost organizat ultimul campionat.am avut privilegiul sa fiu numit de conducerea Inspectoratului General coorganizator.atunci au participat pentru prima oara si civilii.Ce bine am nimerit-o deci, in 2005! :rolleyes:
multi dintre baietii din poze imi sunt prieteni sau amici.
dan grajdeanu-acum la jandarmeria din ploiesti,petrescu si tudose sunt la politia din ploiesti.
Post by: zimbris on March 02, 2010, 08:12:06 AM
..si hai sa dedicam clipul asta tutror celor care iubesc CG'ul - cainele utilitar, indeosebi tipul 'clasic', sau 'vechi' de CG. Ma mandresc ca noi am avut asmenea caini la Ciorani (si nu numai) candva.. totodata imi pare rau de 'mersul' rasei care a dat peste cap o lume intreaga, cea a CG'ului.
[youtube:201jr9b7]WbxPEgPjZIQ[/youtube:201jr9b7]
Post by: Dia_Boca on March 02, 2010, 08:53:35 AM
Quote from: zimbris
Uitati niste caini faini, toti veniti de la Ciorani (ce pacat ca s-a desfiintat scoala...)
deci, sa dam intaietate "batranilor" :) Masculul din poza asta are 10 ani iar Dux (agitatorul) poate sa va spuna ce potential avea cainele chiar si la o asemenea varsta
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdh10QNAI/AAAAAAAAA9s/WhrFPJGweqk/s1024/DSC_0380.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdguX0GqI/AAAAAAAAA88/YSnKxqZ0vFk/s1024/DSC_0366.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdg-KyIUI/AAAAAAAAA9E/X-rnJChnAOY/s1024/DSC_0367.jpg)
Un 'sir' de caini din "scoala veche", tipul clasic de CG
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gde2gWo2I/AAAAAAAAA8A/H9wVOIz0RAM/s1024/DSC_0262.jpg)
asta imi aduce aminte de Ben (ca si aspect), la fel si al 2lea caine din poza de deasupra
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdlJ95YiI/AAAAAAAAA_I/SIhitAWA2gU/s640/DSC_0145.jpg) (http://lh4.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdi0YsMCI/AAAAAAAAA-E/ZIKQwZ0-iA4/s640/DSC_0135.jpg)
cautare droguri:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdfhcw-vI/AAAAAAAAA8g/eLRixkOH4E4/s1024/DSC_0342.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_PCPQWfe45Mk/S4gdjoPaHeI/AAAAAAAAA-U/wIosSLjR0Z4/s640/DSC_0201.jpg)
caini extrem de valorosi si pe deasupra foarte aratosi....
sunt minunati...
Post by: Man Stopper on March 02, 2010, 09:45:39 AM
Post by: guest on March 02, 2010, 09:46:49 AM
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/3269891.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=45B0EB3381F7834D30AA25FBC7243DA5BB0AD379C376176287347052288BB462)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/WWI/GermanRedCrossDogs.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/WWI/GermanRedCrossDogsGoingToTheFront.jpg)
(http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/Holger_Vati.JPG)
Si acum ceva interesant... :devil: ) in pozele de mai jos, ciobanita lui Hitler, Blondi.
(http://www.dittatori.it/hitlerblondi2.jpg)
(http://greyfalcon.us/restored/myPictures/Hitler_w_Blondi_500.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on March 04, 2010, 02:02:57 PM
Boomer impuscat in fata
[youtube:3f9qjruw]HtA9ZLyTPFA[/youtube:3f9qjruw]
Boomer in convalescenta:
[youtube:3f9qjruw]Qh3is6cOHko[/youtube:3f9qjruw]
Un caine injungiat, in convalescenta (putin mai grafic)
[youtube:3f9qjruw]TbcYt-iKkfw[/youtube:3f9qjruw]
Inca un caine care a fost la 2 pasi sa-si piarda viata (ramas fara un ochi, dar viu)
[youtube:3f9qjruw]dGn56u9-iMk[/youtube:3f9qjruw]
Post by: zimbris on March 04, 2010, 02:29:12 PM
[youtube:1tl8t3vc]FBeYpq0hllc[/youtube:1tl8t3vc]
Ma gandesc... ce inseamna cu adevarat nervi puternici.. psihic puternic.. mi se face pielea de gaina de cate ori vad astfel de clipuri
Post by: zimbris on March 04, 2010, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: Thara
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/WWI/GermanRedCrossDogs.jpg)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/bz6568/WWI/GermanRedCrossDogsGoingToTheFront.jpg)
super pozele!
Post by: kangdanlin on March 04, 2010, 05:03:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUfvsuuZA8I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTOSrOpDPNI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuafeQzBHxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS15Y-8OvF8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlizsaAjbJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqSYDmMV8Yg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sozv_Vf39zc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kSUcdAAUU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kbBzhDT7j4
kangdanlin, te rog ca atunci cand postezi link-uri de You Tube, foloseste optiunea care permite sa le urmarim direct pe forum, e mult mai usor.
Thara.
Post by: dux on March 05, 2010, 05:26:20 AM
Post by: bobo70 on March 05, 2010, 05:44:27 AM
Quote from: "dux"
documentarul asta il am pe un c.d. tradus.Vreau si eu o copie, te rog...
Post by: kangdanlin on March 05, 2010, 06:12:05 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
kangdanlin, te rog ca atunci cand postezi link-uri de You Tube, foloseste optiunea care permite sa le urmarim direct pe forum, e mult mai usor.am incercat aseara sa le pun asa, dar cand am dat preview , nu se vedea cum trebuie..asa ca am preferat sa postez linkuri
Thara.
Post by: guest on March 05, 2010, 07:16:06 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
am incercat aseara sa le pun asa, dar cand am dat preview , nu se vedea cum trebuie..asa ca am preferat sa postez linkuriBanuiam ca asta s-a intamplat. In cazul asta, dai copy/paste la titlu inca odata in casuta de cautare de la You Tube. Asa iti va da clipul initial, de unde tu vei lua link-ul. Link-urile care apar cu "related" sau altceva, nu functioneaza. Link-ul trebuie sa fie in forma simpla.
Post by: zimbris on March 05, 2010, 01:06:42 PM
Quote from: "bobo70"
Vreau si eu o copie, te rog...
Bobo, eu inregistrez documentarul cu caini de politie difuzat saptamanal pe Animal Planet, iti dau copiile cu prima ocazie cand ne intalnim. Va fi fain sa avem cat mai multi o 'baza de date' bogata, elemente care sa ne motiveze in ceea ce promovam.
Post by: zimbris on March 05, 2010, 01:44:56 PM
Post by: bobo70 on March 05, 2010, 01:50:55 PM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Bobo, eu inregistrez documentarul cu caini de politie difuzat saptamanal pe Animal Planet, iti dau copiile cu prima ocazie cand ne intalnim. Va fi fain sa avem cat mai multi o 'baza de date' bogata, elemente care sa ne motiveze in ceea ce promovam.
Multumesc. Eu nu reusesc niciodata sa prind serialul.
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la al 2-lea clip vad deja ca si cei de la sibiu o iau pe aratura de cand au bagat malini in centru
ala e dresaj de mondio ring...cam diferit de dresajul pentru misiune
si in ultimul rand nu inteleg unde se trage linia de separatie intre cainii de la sibiu, si cainii de la o anumita scoala particulara de dresaj, care nush ce cauta printre cainii politisti
Post by: dux on May 02, 2010, 09:01:33 AM
Post by: dux on May 02, 2010, 09:05:09 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
si in ultimul rand nu inteleg unde se trage linia de separatie intre cainii de la sibiu, si cainii de la o anumita scoala particulara de dresaj, care nush ce cauta printre cainii politisticand faci o demonstratie unde vrei sa iasa totul la superlativ atunci mai faci si anumite ,,artificii''.Viorel Scanteie este omul de baza la demonstratii.dar omul isi aduce cainele lui ,fiindca nu are un caine din scoala care sa lucreze la nivelul lui Bibi.
Post by: kangdanlin on May 02, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
Quote from: "dux"
eu nu am apreciat gestul lor de a-si face reclama pe seama renumelui centrului canin de la sibiu..sunt atatea clipuri pe net in care lasa sa se inteleaga ca scoala lor si centrul de la sibiu sunt una si aceeasi scoalaQuote from: "kangdanlin"si in ultimul rand nu inteleg unde se trage linia de separatie intre cainii de la sibiu, si cainii de la o anumita scoala particulara de dresaj, care nush ce cauta printre cainii politisticand faci o demonstratie unde vrei sa iasa totul la superlativ atunci mai faci si anumite ,,artificii''.Viorel Scanteie este omul de baza la demonstratii.dar omul isi aduce cainele lui ,fiindca nu are un caine din scoala care sa lucreze la nivelul lui Bibi.
mi-ar fi placut sa vad caini de misiune/alti conductori cu cainii lor care chiar merg in misiune pe strada
pacat totusi ca pentru asa un centrul de dresaj cu atata vechime,nu au cainii lor , ci au recurs la caini externi pentru demonstratie...
Post by: bobo70 on May 03, 2010, 09:58:32 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
eu nu am apreciat gestul lor de a-si face reclama pe seama renumelui centrului canin de la sibiu..sunt atatea clipuri pe net in care lasa sa se inteleaga ca scoala lor si centrul de la sibiu sunt una si aceeasi scoala
mi-ar fi placut sa vad caini de misiune/alti conductori cu cainii lor care chiar merg in misiune pe strada
pacat totusi ca pentru asa un centrul de dresaj cu atata vechime,nu au cainii lor , ci au recurs la caini externi pentru demonstratie...
Nu vreau sa supar pe nimeni, nici nu-l cunosc personal pe om, dar intreaga scoala de la Sibiu are ce invata de la Scanteie. Nu cred ca sunt multi dresori in Romania care sunt la nivelul lui. Daca isi face reclama are si cu ce..., nu cred ca-si face reclama pe seama vechii scoli de la Sibiu, aia ar fi antireclama.
Am cateva cunostinte care au facut cursurile de dresaj la Sibiu si mi-e jena sa va spun ce hal de conductori sunt si ce antrenament fac cu cainii lor. Aici poate continua o discutie la nesfarsit, sunt oamei si oameni, dar ideea este ca cel putin eu personal nu am vazut nici macar un meserias venit de la Sibiu. Scoala aia a fost odata ceva, dar in timp s-a intamplat cam ce s-a intamplat cu tot ce a fost bun in Romania, a cazut pe mana unor smecheri pusi in functii pe criterii politice si au aplicat ei metode numai de ei stiute, care au reusit sa distruga tot.
Mai bine ma opresc aici cu detalii despre vestita scoala de la Sibiu, mai ales ca nu cunosc in mod direct ci prin interpusi, situatia de acolo.
Post by: zimbris on May 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
Un element interesant ar fi concurenta care sa vina din partea particularilor, iar cei care se ocupa de caini de serviciu sa inteleaga ca standardul trebuie ridicat.
Post by: bobo70 on May 03, 2010, 10:28:07 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Un element interesant ar fi concurenta care sa vina din partea particularilor, iar cei care se ocupa de caini de serviciu sa inteleaga ca standardul trebuie ridicat.
Ei aici este partea buna. Exista oameni/particulari care doresc sa faca munca adevarata cu cainii si in ei trebuie sa ne punem sperante. Scanteie daca nu are rezultate, nu are ce arata, nu-i mai vine lumea la dresaj, da faliment..., la scoala de stat nu exista posibilitatea asta. Aia dau salarii grase unor incompetenti care au facut praf Ciobanescul German in zona de caine utilitar si continua pe acelasi drum fara sa fie deranjati de nimeni. Poate ca nu se pricep,poate nu vor, poate ca nu-i intereseaza, poate ca sunt rau intentionati,... nu conteaza. Pe unde trec lasa un pustiu lung si lat.
Post by: dux on May 03, 2010, 01:05:16 PM
Quote from: "bobo70"
draga bobo.as vrea sa te contrazic dar din pacate asta-i adevarul.pacat ca exista acolo si oameni deosebiti ,dar se lovesc de mentalitatea altora care sunt nepasatori.in dresaj,precum si in crestere trebuie in primul rand sa fi pasionat.daca ai pasiune (si bineinteles si talent)ajungi sa fii bun in orice domeniu.Quote from: "zimbris"Un element interesant ar fi concurenta care sa vina din partea particularilor, iar cei care se ocupa de caini de serviciu sa inteleaga ca standardul trebuie ridicat.la scoala de stat nu exista posibilitatea asta. Aia dau salarii grase unor incompetenti care au facut praf Ciobanescul German in zona de caine utilitar si continua pe acelasi drum fara sa fie deranjati de nimeni. Poate ca nu se pricep,poate nu vor, poate ca nu-i intereseaza, poate ca sunt rau intentionati,... nu conteaza. Pe unde trec lasa un pustiu lung si lat.
Post by: kangdanlin on May 03, 2010, 05:25:32 PM
tocmai aici este problema..centrul de la ciorani este al ministerului de interne, si are ca scop selectia si dresarea cainilor pentru misiunea reala...singurul rezultat cu care ar trebui sa se mandreasca dresorii respectivi/agentii de politie este faptul ca au facut cine stie ce captura, sau ca au ajuns teferi acasa...asta ar trebui sa fie singurul criteriu, si astea ar trebui sa fie rezultatele pe care sa le arate
ori eu vad acolo o demonstratie de dresaj pentru sport, facuta asa cu multe "artificii" ( ca sa folosesc expresia lui Dux), ca sa faca spectacol, si sa-i prosteasca pe prosti...asta vad eu :|
Post by: bobo70 on May 03, 2010, 11:51:25 PM
Despre dresajul sportiv si cel de real am mai discutat si cu alte ocazii si nu cred ca mai are rost. Eu personal nu sunt dresor, doar lucrez singur cu cainele meu si constat pe propria-mi piele ca detaliile in dresaj fac diferenta. Un dresor care face un caine fie si sa mearga la pas cu spatele, sunt convins ca poate face orice altceva cu acel caine, daca genetic se muleaza pe un anumit tip de munca. Asta nu inseamna ca nu poate face dresaj de real, problema este ca omul face ceea ce i se cere, el traieste din asta. Un caine cu calitati genetice reale este mult mai usor sa-l dresezi pentru real cu spui tu, acolo nu ai interdictii, profiti la maxim de instinctele cainelui respectiv (daca le are) si atat. Nu conteaza ca mesteca mansonul, sau lasa aportul, sau nu lasa la comanda, sau ridica nasul de pe urma, etc.
Fara suparare...., asta este parerea mea.
Post by: guest on May 04, 2010, 05:38:23 AM
Quote from: "bobo70"
Afla ca din sutele de caini pregatiti pe la scolile astea ale ministerului (care acum cativa ani voiau sa cumpere pentru inoirea septelului caini de showBa chiar s-au si cumparat.
Post by: zimbris on May 04, 2010, 07:34:50 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
Scanteie daca nu are rezultate, nu are ce arata, nu-i mai vine lumea la dresaj, da faliment..., la scoala de stat nu exista posibilitatea asta. Aia dau salarii grase unor incompetenti care au facut praf Ciobanescul German in zona de caine utilitar si continua pe acelasi drum fara sa fie deranjati de nimeni. Poate ca nu se pricep,poate nu vor
tocmai aici este problema..centrul de la ciorani este al ministerului de interne, si are ca scop selectia si dresarea cainilor pentru misiunea reala...singurul rezultat cu care ar trebui sa se mandreasca dresorii respectivi/agentii de politie este faptul ca au facut cine stie ce captura, sau ca au ajuns teferi acasa...asta ar trebui sa fie singurul criteriu, si astea ar trebui sa fie rezultatele pe care sa le arate
ori eu vad acolo o demonstratie de dresaj pentru sport, facuta asa cu multe "artificii" ( ca sa folosesc expresia lui Dux), ca sa faca spectacol, si sa-i prosteasca pe prosti...asta vad eu :|
"ciorani"... banuiesc ca ai vrut sa spui "sibiu"... :mrgreen: ) pt simplul motiv ca la fatza locului se afla si copii, oameni care cauta altceva la caini decat ceea ce un caine cu adevarat de politie poate face.
In lucrul de politie cainele trebuie sa fie bine "fixat" pe politie si sa aiba suficienta determinare si forta fizica pt a putea face fatza situatiilor de pericol; nu ai nevoie de tumbe si mai stiu eu ce de la un caine politist. Uite, si Dux a facut o demonstratie in cadrul Pol. De Frontiera Constanta cu Axa, ea fiind de fapt "proprietate privata". Dar daca Dux imi spune "Dane vezi ca o iau pe Axa intr-o misiune pe frontiera", stie bine ca poate sa faca asta.
In concluzie Kangdanlin... nu cred ca poti avea asteptari mari in momentul de fatza, privind situatia cainilor utilitari (din pacate). Sunt ceva caini intr-adevar buni in actiuni reale, dar cu aia nu ai ce cauta la un asemenea eveniment.. ei stiu sa puna jos infractorul si sa gaseasca droguri.. atat. Am ceva material video cu asemenea caini, dar am promis sa nu il fac public si vreau sa fiu om de cuvant. Deci... nu cred ca trebuie criticat nici evenimentul de la Cluj nici munca lui Scanteie.. sa spunem ca si eu as critica putin ce se intampla cu Sibiul (si nu numai) dar as vrea sa aratam impreuna respect fatza de institutia respectiva si pe cat posibil sa fim constructivi in ceea ce spunem. Spun asta pt ca stiu personal ca sunt si oameni bine intentionati la Sibiu.
Post by: zimbris on May 04, 2010, 07:47:52 AM
Quote from: "bobo70"
Pai "kangdanlin", eu cred ca tu vezi ceva inexistent si dai o inerpretare proprie si personala dresajului. Eu nu vreau sa ma contrez cu nimeni, fiecare crede ce vrea el, dar tu parca denaturezi putin realitatea. Sincer sa fiu mie mi-ar fi oarecum jena sa-mi dau cu parerea despre munca unuia ca Scanteie. Sunt convins ca nu ai vazut in viata ta mai mult de doi, trei caini de la politie de ai impresia ca sunt niste caini super pregatiti care-si salveaza in fiecare zi conductorii. Afla ca din sutele de caini pregatiti pe la scolile astea ale ministerului (care acum cativa ani voiau sa cumpere pentru inoirea septelului caini de show - banuiesti nivelul profesionalismului), nu rezulta mai mult de 2-3%, hai sa exgerez 5%, caini care sa faca ceea ce auzi tu din povesti.
Despre dresajul sportiv si cel de real am mai discutat si cu alte ocazii si nu cred ca mai are rost. Eu personal nu sunt dresor, doar lucrez singur cu cainele meu si constat pe propria-mi piele ca detaliile in dresaj fac diferenta. Un dresor care face un caine fie si sa mearga la pas cu spatele, sunt convins ca poate face orice altceva cu acel caine, daca genetic se muleaza pe un anumit tip de munca. Asta nu inseamna ca nu poate face dresaj de real, problema este ca omul face ceea ce i se cere, el traieste din asta. Un caine cu calitati genetice reale este mult mai usor sa-l dresezi pentru real cu spui tu, acolo nu ai interdictii, profiti la maxim de instinctele cainelui respectiv (daca le are) si atat. Nu conteaza ca mesteca mansonul, sau lasa aportul, sau nu lasa la comanda, sau ridica nasul de pe urma, etc.
Fara suparare...., asta este parerea mea. :)
Bobo si Kangdanlin, multumesc pt postarile voastre recente, ma bucur ca se discuta lucrurile astea!! Nu uitati ca toti vrem vinele cainilor nostri / respectiv rasei, deci sa dialogam "relaxati"
deci... bagati mare!
Post by: bobo70 on May 04, 2010, 11:27:11 AM
Post by: kangdanlin on May 04, 2010, 05:44:05 PM
nu m-ati inteles exact ...eu nu am spus vreodata ca Scantele nu stie sa dreseze, sau ca nu ar fi un dresor bun....ba din contra cainii pe care i-a prezentat la concursuri au luat locuri bune si asta arata ca tipul stie ce face in domeniul lui...dar sa prezinti un caine de sport drept caine de politie asta e cu totul altceva.
n-am insinuat vreodata macar, ca as fi la nivelul lui sau la nivelul oricarei alte persoane, dar asta nu ma impiedica sa-mi dau cu parerea, chiar critic legat de ceea ce face...nu trebuie sa fiu la nivelul lui Hagi, ca sa am dreptul de a-l critica , cu atat mai mult daca urasc fotbalul
ca si persoana interesata de caini nu pentru sport, ma asteptam sa vad la cainii de politie exact ceea ce si eu sunt interesat..dar eu acolo vad exact ceea ce incerc sa evit si din punctul asta de vedere sunt foarte dezamagit...
chipurile traim intr-o democratie in care fiecare poate face ce-si doreste...ori eu personal simt ca ma sufoc uneori , din cauza ca nu vad si ceea ce ma intereseaza, si nu pot sa-mi satisfac nevoia personala, cand mi se tot baga in fata acelasi si acelasi lucru..de aici si tonul oarecum ferm al postarilor mele...n-am nimic cu cine face sport, ba din contra ma bucur ca sunt oameni care gasesc placere in asa ceva..ceea ce ma deranjeaza este lipsa de optiuni ...lipsa mea de optiuni
daca lumea ar fi avut de ales intre ciobanescul german cu spatele drept, si cel cu spatele curbat, care credeti ca ar fi fost optiunea majoritatii?...eu sincer cred ca daca ar fi existat optiunea de a alege, cel putin la noi in romania, ponderea celor 2 tipuri ar fi fost inversata...dar daca nimeni nu a promovat si cainele DDR, nici n-avea de unde sa fie popular...cainele de expozitie a fost impus de undeva de sus si lumea in cele din urma l-a acceptat ca fiind ciobanesc german...iar tipul acesta de expozitie a beneficiat de renumele celui DDR, altfel nu patrundea masele
la fel si cu dresajul de sport si cel de "real", ma vad in situatia in care cineva de undeva de sus , a hotarat ca dresajul de sport este de fapt dresaj, si lucrul asta se promoveaza peste tot.iar eu acum ar trebui sa renunt la ceea ce de fapt cred despre una si alta si sa ma apuc sa fac tot felul de giumbuslucuri deseori ilogice, mai mult sau mai putin comerciale
" Un dresor care face un caine fie si sa mearga la pas cu spatele, sunt convins ca poate face orice altceva cu acel caine, daca genetic se muleaza pe un anumit tip de munca. Asta nu inseamna ca nu poate face dresaj de real, problema este ca omul face ceea ce i se cere, el traieste din asta."
pai asta e, ca nu cred ca i se cere sa faca sport cu cainii politisti...daca cainii aceia sunt doar pentru evenimente deosebite/demonstratii e ok...dar in paralel ar trebui sa aiba si un caine de misiune, si acolo ar fi fost ocazia macar sa-l prezinte...si locul si momentul oportun
si cu asta nu mai zic nimic legat de el, si sper ca nu-mi luati in nume de rau modul direct in care ma exprim
Post by: zimbris on May 05, 2010, 01:50:50 AM
Dar exista un aspect care poate merita subliniat - cainii de serviciu intr-adevar nu trebuie sa lucreze spectaculos; daca urmariti materialele video aparute de-alungul anilor veti vedea ca animalele nici macar nu lucreaza cu fata sus catre cea a handlerului (gen lucrul cautat in ring sport sau schh). Tin minte cum comentau unii cand vedeau, de exemplu, caini de la Lackland - "aa.. dar lucreaza aiurea, nici macar nu au fatza sus catre handler" - pai pe ofiterii de la Lackland ii durea undeva de elementele "spectaculoase". Cred ca stim cu totii clar ca obiectivele difera mult de la o disciplina la alta. Nu poti avea aceleasi asteptari de la Mayweather si Emelianenko (sau Gigi de la coltul strazii care bate de rupe); intr-o parte unul bate frumos de tot, in celalalta arata a bataie de strada in toata regula.
Iar in privinta dresorilor de IPO din tara eu zic ca cel mai simplu e sa analizezi dupa rezultate, de fapt in general, nu doar in privinta IPO.
In finalul postarii mele... nu cred ca e cazul ca cineva sa se supere, nu cred ca cineva a spus 'ce nu trebuia'. Eu sper ca suntem 'baieti mari' si stim sa si spune si sa si stim sa primim ceea ce ni se spune.
Va rog daca mai mentionam Sibiul si pe dnul Scanteie, sa o facem cu respect.
Post by: kangdanlin on May 06, 2010, 02:08:46 AM
Post by: bobo70 on May 06, 2010, 11:53:42 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Bobo cred ca te-ai aprins putintel cu ultima postare dar asta e ok,...Ok, ok, scuze. Poate ca am exagerat si eu.
Este adevarat ca fiecare putem avea pareri si "nu trebuie neaparat sa fii Hagi ca sa-l critici" sau asa ceva zicea kangdanlin, numai ca doar la noi in Romanica ne pricepem toti la fotbal, politica si femei si nu am vrut sa las sa mai fie adaugat un domeniu la cele enumerate mai sus
. Daca nu apreciem munca unui om in general, sau a unui dresor in special prin rezultatele muncii lui, atunci cum putem sa facem o diferentiere intre meseriasi. Dupa povesti nemuritoare despre caini care fac minuni, dar nu pot fi vazuti de nimeni.
Educatia chinologica se face si pentru publicul larg, detinator de caine care trebuie sa ceara ceva de la dresorul care ii umfla banutii asa pentru doua culcaturi si un sezi, dupa care sustine ca ii face un caine de real care o sa fie un paznic de nadejde (dar asta nu face dresorul ci genetica si caracterul cainelui in proportie de 80%).
Post by: zimbris on May 06, 2010, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: "bobo70"
doar la noi in Romanica ne pricepem toti la fotbal, politica si femei:mrgreen:
Post by: Dia_Boca on May 06, 2010, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: "zimbris"
1bereQuote from: "bobo70"doar la noi in Romanica ne pricepem toti la fotbal, politica si femei:mrgreen:
Post by: zimbris on May 07, 2010, 03:01:44 AM
Quote from: "bobo70"
Educatia chinologica se face si pentru publicul larg, detinator de caine care trebuie sa ceara ceva de la dresorul care ii umfla banutii asa pentru doua culcaturi si un sezi, dupa care sustine ca ii face un caine de real care o sa fie un paznic de nadejde (dar asta nu face dresorul ci genetica si caracterul cainelui in proportie de 80%).
Cainele oricum nu il face dresorul de real decat daca poate genetica animalului, indiferent de cati banuti se ofera de catre stapanul cainelui, in unele cazuri bine-nteles. Sa "faci" un caine de real de fapt nu inseamna decat sa incurajezi anumite porniri ale cainelui iar treptat sa-i oferi sansa sa vada ca "poate", ca il tine bine "muschiuletzul" intr-o confruntare - asta in echilibru (si de fapt pe fundalul) unei rutine de disciplina bine inserata in mintea cainelui. Daca lucrezi pe protectie la nivel avansat fara sa ai baza disciplinei din capul locului, iti dai singur foc la casa, daca pot sa spun asa. Acum.. nu stiu cum se lucreaza prin alte parti, dar pe la noi se face si predarea - respectiv preluare acolo unde e cazul, deci omul vede pt ce anume a platit. Iar cand clientul iti vine pt ca ai fost recomandat de cel anterior, asta spune inca ceva ;)
Post by: bobo70 on May 07, 2010, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: "zimbris"
...dar prin dresaj "educi publicul larg" in legatura cu dresajul propriu-zis, nu si neaparat cu cainele, prin dresaj f bine facut fiind posibil sa ascunzi (in situatii demonstrative) unele defecte de comportament / caracter ale cainelui. Am mai atins subiectul asta citand o parte din spusele lui Koos Hassing.
Dresorii care umfla banutii din pacate sunt si sigur vor mai fi, pt ca banul inca dicteaza drumul. Dar din fericire cine se inteapa o data nu-i mai trebuie si a 2a oara. :)
Este drept ca poti ascunde dar si corecta multe probleme de caracter si implicit de comportament ale cainelui prin dresaj, asta nu este intotdeauna o greseala. Un caine nu are probleme numai in ceea ce inseamna curajul, discernamantul, forta si viteza de atac. El poate fi hiperactiv si uneori incontrolabil, poate manifesta o anumita spaima fata de un element exterior cu care a avut defurca in copilarie, poate prezenta o agresivitate crescuta tocmai datorita acestei spaime, etc. Acestea sunt si ele la randul lor comportamente deviante care trebuiesc corectate prin dresaj si asta nu inseamna ca ele nu au existat sau ca sunt ascunse prin dresaj.
Cand vorbim de ascunderea unor defecte, cel putin in cazul in care dresorul nu este vanzatorul cainelui, atunci el nu prea are nici un interes sa-i spuna proprietarului ca are un caine super tare, daca acesta nu este asa.
Post by: bobo70 on May 07, 2010, 10:58:35 PM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Acum.. nu stiu cum se lucreaza prin alte parti, dar pe la noi se face si predarea - respectiv preluare acolo unde e cazul, deci omul vede pt ce anume a platit. Iar cand clientul iti vine pt ca ai fost recomandat de cel anterior, asta spune inca ceva :)
Dresajul, asa cum am fost de acord, indiferent pentru ce se face acesta trebuie bazat pe o disciplina "beton", fara scapari.
Deci, hai sa facem educatie canina altfel: daca cainele are nevoie maxima de disciplina, atunci de ce sa fie proprietarul, care habar nu are cum se controleaza un caine decat din cateva incursiuni pe net, pus sa faca preluarea, el nu poate aprecia corect si profesionist rezultatul dresajului (atunci urmeaza prosteala cu doua culcaturi, trei chemari si un sezi...).
Mai corect ar fi ca proprietarul sa ceara obtinerea unui examen BH de catre dresor si dupa aceea sa ceara el un dresaj de sport sau de "real", in functie de dorinta fiecaruia. Daca a trecut examenul BH, primeste banii si confirma faptul ca se pricepe si mai merita sa continue lucrul cu cainele, se primeste o confirmare universal valabila si acceptata a dresajuui facut.
Binenteles ca si aici pot exista manarii cu arbitri si altele (nu din aceasta cauza nu ar trebui sa existe niste reguli). :lol: , noi le stim mai bine pe toat... :roll: Cred ca ar trebui sa mutati voi la o sectiune de dresaj....
Post by: zimbris on May 08, 2010, 12:31:52 AM
Quote from: "bobo70"
Dresajul, asa cum am fost de acord, indiferent pentru ce se face acesta trebuie bazat pe o disciplina "beton", fara scapari.
Deci, hai sa facem educatie canina altfel: daca cainele are nevoie maxima de disciplina, atunci de ce sa fie proprietarul, care habar nu are cum se controleaza un caine decat din cateva incursiuni pe net, pus sa faca preluarea, el nu poate aprecia corect si profesionist rezultatul dresajului (atunci urmeaza prosteala cu doua culcaturi, trei chemari si un sezi...).
Mai corect ar fi ca proprietarul sa ceara obtinerea unui examen BH de catre dresor si dupa aceea sa ceara el un dresaj de sport sau de "real", in functie de dorinta fiecaruia. Daca a trecut examenul BH, primeste banii si confirma faptul ca se pricepe si mai merita sa continue lucrul cu cainele, se primeste o confirmare universal valabila si acceptata a dresajuui facut.
Binenteles ca si aici pot exista manarii cu arbitri si altele (nu din aceasta cauza nu ar trebui sa existe niste reguli). :lol: , noi le stim mai bine pe toat... :roll: Cred ca ar trebui sa mutati voi la o sectiune de dresaj....
Sa vedem, poate asa vor sta lucrurile si la noi. Dar pana una alta, cel putin in ce ne priveste aici in partea asta de lume, proprietarii vor 'doar' atat - cainele sa stie un sezi si un culcat (cum spui mai sus) si sa fie super in paza si aparare. Daca incepi si ii spui de BH si nu stiu ce, automat iti vor spune ca nu-i intereseaza. Pe urma mai este si aspectul financiar. Daca un dresor cere un car de bani pt o munca de nimic, asta e problema individuala a dresorului. Pana una alta mie-mi place treaba asta: proprietarul primeste cainele inapoi de la dresor cand patrupedul executa minimul de comenzi la care proprietarul se astepta inca din capul locului. Si sa stii ca multi caini au dat (indirect) BH, daor ca nimeni nu a abordat treaba asta oficial, ca un bucatar care face o anume friptura de renume si o face f bine/buna, dar el nu stie ca de fapt exista o reteta cu friptura respectiva sau stie dar nu-i trebuie o hartie ca sa o faca. Stiu baieti care nici macar nu au avut pregatire in domeniu sicare-ti puteau face cainele sa faca o sumedenie de lucruri si care nu erau interesati de aspectul asta al "hartiilor".
Mai este un aspect privitor la cei care stiu cu adevarat meserie.. dar nu vreau sa ti-l spun eu intr-un forum public, ci mai degraba m-as bucura sa-l descoperi tu, pe parcurs.
ma bucur ca iti doresti ca lucrurile sa arate si la noi cum arata in alte parti si poate chiar tu vei avea o influenta in privinta asta :lol: )
Scuze ca m-am lungit cu postarea asta, este un subiect care-mi place, desi nu sunt atat de pasionat de dresaj cat sunt de rasa CG. Dar pui in discutie aspectul educarii publicului si am vrut sa subliniez ca si acolo se pune problema in moduri diferite, functie de ce anume vrei sa transmiti. Sper ca ma fac bine inteles, nu ma contrazic cu careva de dragul postatului, doar adaug la ceea ce se spune. De asemenea, a nu se intelege ca, critic evenimentul de la Cluj, eu vb la general.
mai postez o data clipul cu Axa :) Elevii / profesorii sunt tot in stanga mea. Ei erau acolo sa vada ce fel de munca fac cainii de frontiera - si asta au vazut / auzit.
[youtube:2m0k4y75]w6O9Py0KJ7I[/youtube:2m0k4y75]
Post by: zimbris on May 27, 2010, 12:04:28 PM
Another tribute to the Border Patrol GSD, Romanian footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ctjCAHfJS4
Post by: zimbris on May 28, 2010, 11:34:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJUEB5ZV4js
Post by: zimbris on May 28, 2010, 11:40:14 AM
[youtube:1udg9kjj]iGOavJLsazA[/youtube:1udg9kjj]
Post by: dux on May 28, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
in cel de-al doilea mi-a placut cum au actionat cei trei politisti cu cainii lor.s-au pozitionat foarte bine in timp ce infractorul era condus la masina.
bravo lor.
Post by: zimbris on May 28, 2010, 01:09:06 PM
Ma bucur sa vad ca totusi CG'ul ramane cainele folosit de multe unitati de politie, pt ca in ziua de azi vezi f multe demonstratii cu malini, dar cand e vorba de activitati reale totusi predomina CG'ii iar asta e bine, inseamna ca sunt inca CG'i buni.
Post by: zimbris on June 03, 2010, 01:28:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXeuqcMetxo
Post by: zimbris on June 03, 2010, 01:35:20 PM
Post by: zimbris on June 03, 2010, 01:41:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA-mwbwN5E0
In clipul asta puteti nota ca cel care a injunghiat cainele a luat, pe langa cei cativa ani de inchisoare, inca 18 luni pt injunghierea cainelui. Spre finalul clipului puteti vedea fotografii sau chiar secvente video cu caini "cazuti la datorie" (ca sa folosesc si eu limbajul 'de serviciu')
Post by: guest on June 03, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
Penultimul este impresionant!
(http://http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/bravo-applaudi-147.GIF)
Post by: Dia_Boca on June 04, 2010, 10:41:07 AM
Post by: zimbris on June 04, 2010, 12:33:03 PM
Quote from: "Dia_Boca"
http://http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/cainele-de-urma-lupu-al-politiei-targu-lapus-a-prins-un-hot-la-doar-40-de-minute-dupa-ce-a-spart-un-magazin/Haha.. super! Hai ca parca incep sa simt ca vin din nou anii '80 - '90 catre noi (in privinta cainilor de serviciu)
Post by: crazywind on June 04, 2010, 10:16:06 PM
http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/un-caine-a-a ... -politiei/ (http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/un-caine-a-ajuns-la-dupa-gratii-pentru-ca-a-atacat-o-masina-a-politiei/)
:lol:
Post by: zimbris on June 04, 2010, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: "crazywind"
Dar de asta ce spuneti?
http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/un-caine-a-a ... -politiei/ (http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/un-caine-a-ajuns-la-dupa-gratii-pentru-ca-a-atacat-o-masina-a-politiei/)
:lol: 1ha
Post by: Dia_Boca on June 04, 2010, 11:27:08 PM
Post by: zimbris on June 05, 2010, 02:39:07 AM
Quote from: "Dia_Boca"
precis erau politisti corupti... :mrgreen:
Post by: Dia_Boca on June 05, 2010, 02:52:10 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Quote from: "Dia_Boca"precis erau politisti corupti... :mrgreen:
spre deosebire de bipezi, cainii nu actioneaza niciodata fara motiv...
Post by: zimbris on June 05, 2010, 02:56:09 AM
Post by: guest on June 07, 2010, 04:31:20 AM
Post by: Dia_Boca on June 07, 2010, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: "Thara"
http://http://www.adoptiicaini.ro/caini-de-serviciu-cedati-gratuit-de-politie/
mda... chiar nu stiu ce sa zic... din principiu sunt intotdeauna de partea cainilor... dar am avut ocazia sa stau de vorba, recent, cu un politist ce avea ca partener un CG veteran... pana la urma si argumentele lui au fost destul de plauzibile... cand cainii ajung "la pensie", e mai bine sa li se gaseasca o familie iubitoare, decat sa fie uitati intr-o boxa, in favoarea celor tineri...
Post by: guest on June 07, 2010, 01:08:10 PM
Post by: zimbris on June 07, 2010, 01:15:25 PM
Post by: guest on July 03, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
(http://www.google.ro/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Tbt6Ra6y2a0/SF1G9o2KeII/AAAAAAAABTc/AMj6Wz8jrUY/s400/P1060732.JPG&sa=X&ei=HWcuTM2HHcGlOM-o_NUB&ved=0CAUQ8wc4Ag&usg=AFQjCNHYtBjwFLJLe_gImemD9i40OMlrrw)
(http://www.google.ro/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.wtv-zone.com/Hahnsflyboys/dog/naziD27.jpg&sa=X&ei=q2cuTI_jMeSWOMqpvdgB&ved=0CAUQ8wc4Cw&usg=AFQjCNEYKtvHR5thmoT432nZJYCTE7sovA)
(http://community.webtv.net/The50thFlyBoys/Rudy/scrapbookFiles/importD110.jpg)
(http://www.google.ro/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/y/E/plaszow3.jpg&sa=X&ei=-mcuTKyzCN6HOIKawMsB&ved=0CAUQ8wc4DA&usg=AFQjCNEZgIqFZ86U0LG7Q2CYYE9PiRsbVQ)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3930/17037839.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8140/27774694.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8866/52874603.jpg)
[youtube:2jcbl9x1]z7zmlUzExSY[/youtube:2jcbl9x1]
Post by: zimbris on July 03, 2010, 06:47:15 PM
Quote from: "Thara"
:mrgreen:
(http://http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8866/52874603.jpg)
imi place asta..
Post by: kangdanlin on July 04, 2010, 12:40:04 AM
Quote from: "Thara"
Eu din cate am inteles asa se procedeaza si asa ar trebui sa se procedeze peste tot - cainii batrani, care dpdv fizic nu mai fac fatza, sa fie dati ori in grija partenerului uman cu care au lucrat atatia ani buni, ori unor familii.si unchiul meu de la braila, cand eram eu mic a avut un caine pensionar de la politie...vreau sa zic ca era o splendoare sa iesim cu el, mai ales ca era iarna si-l lega la sanie si pe mine ma punea pe sanie
Post by: zimbris on July 04, 2010, 01:17:19 AM
Post by: kangdanlin on July 05, 2010, 12:55:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAmY_YS9Gp0
Post by: zimbris on July 05, 2010, 01:16:47 PM
Post by: zimbris on July 10, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2010, 04:47:24 AM
The nasty street reality.. some images you may not want to see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6DT4ZT3aTA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l18QlFP4-A
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2010, 05:54:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlJjHWto6k
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2010, 06:02:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ihp5aoWsdc
Post by: zimbris on August 06, 2010, 04:58:48 AM
A service GSD.. I am so glad I can post a clip of a Romanian police dog.. just thinking that, quite a few years back awesome police dogs out on the streets were not a scarce sight.. this short clip reminds me of such dogs...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edTW_ZQ2Zvk
Post by: kangdanlin on August 06, 2010, 05:29:57 AM
Quote from: "zimbris"
Un cg lucru politist.. ce ma bucur ca pot posta si clipuri cu cg lucru din tara :)...se vede ca are nerv:)
si eu daca o sa prind pe strada vreun caine de politie o sa merg sa-l cunosc
Post by: dux on August 06, 2010, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
Quote from: "zimbris"Un cg lucru politist.. ce ma bucur ca pot posta si clipuri cu cg lucru din tara :)...se vede ca are nerv:)Pe vremuri Militia si Granicerii aveau caini din linii DDR. foarte multi.acum este din ce in ce mai greu sa gasesti .
si eu daca o sa prind pe strada vreun caine de politie o sa merg sa-l cunosc
cainele din filmulet este foarte dur.adevarat caine de patrula.am facut doar un simplu gest si s-a aruncat asupra mea.
cand l-a coborat din masina si ne-a vazut intrase deja in garda.
A while back the Militia and the Border Patrol had many good dogs from East lines. Many. Now it's getting harder and harder to come across these dogs.
The dog featured in the video is indeed very tough. Truly a patrol dog. I hardly made a gesture and he charged at me.
As soon as the handler got him out of the car he was already on guard, having noticed us.
Post by: zimbris on August 06, 2010, 08:17:13 AM
citesc postarea ta, mai exact amanuntul de la final, cu scosul din masina si automat imi aduc aminte de Ben... adevarati caini de patrula frate!!!!!!!!
oh man... where oh where are these dogs.......
reading your post, especially the last bit, about the dog's 'on guard' attitude and I immediately think of Ben... these are indeed great patrol dogs!!
Post by: zimbris on August 19, 2010, 09:34:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqWQTEvOUFQ
...iar aici puteti vedea si prinderea celui care a impuscat cainele si 2 politisti, filmare efectuata cu telefonul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmdyEesrQoE
Post by: zimbris on August 19, 2010, 09:49:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSyu37y7EuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCx2slfQgW0
Post by: zimbris on September 01, 2010, 04:44:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvmaCbKCS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsPVqbopokQ
Post by: zimbris on September 01, 2010, 05:11:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL9ZgknXsb4
Post by: Dia_Boca on October 01, 2010, 07:44:10 AM
Post by: zimbris on October 12, 2010, 12:44:12 PM
Post by: zimbris on October 18, 2010, 12:47:06 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 22, 2010, 07:17:48 AM
Post by: zimbris on October 22, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
Quote from: "Man Stopper"
These nostalgic clips are fantastic to view and shows true working abilities of the GSD.. And thought i'll add that this particular dog has it seems weak ears, but gets the job done required ;)
I'll always love the old stuff, footage of working dogs...
Post by: kangdanlin on November 01, 2010, 03:16:54 AM
http://www.save-a-vet.org/ (http://www.save-a-vet.org/)
la noi in romania , care este soarte cainilor pensionati?
Post by: zimbris on November 01, 2010, 05:55:59 AM
Post by: guest on November 05, 2010, 04:16:57 AM
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/23990_334769936780_102866751780_4159080_5489999_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs519.snc3/27240_354739981780_102866751780_4220773_1121413_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/23990_334867011780_102866751780_4159821_3757908_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs018.snc4/34271_407201731780_102866751780_5002213_2177526_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs072.ash2/36962_414965186780_102866751780_5207064_3751554_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs052.ash2/35980_421851151780_102866751780_5395363_1630255_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs041.snc4/34410_440385136780_102866751780_5820429_299077_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/23990_334862141780_102866751780_4159750_8139493_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/23990_334785941780_102866751780_4159142_3967486_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs499.ash1/27247_348041426780_102866751780_4198856_778959_n.jpg)
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs519.snc3/27247_348048751780_102866751780_4198893_1361623_n.jpg)
Sursa pozelor (http://http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=105192&id=102866751780#!/pages/Military-Working-Dogs/102866751780)
Post by: zimbris on November 05, 2010, 04:54:23 AM
Quote from: "Thara"
(http://http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs394.snc3/23990_334785941780_102866751780_4159142_3967486_n.jpg)
Post by: Man Stopper on November 05, 2010, 08:12:46 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 05, 2010, 10:41:38 AM
Post by: zimbris on November 07, 2010, 06:57:51 AM
cred ca pt Dux astfel de imagini sunt miere si lapte <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_e_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS_c2gYprNQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzkryK8nEK0
Post by: guest on December 03, 2010, 02:10:22 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 03, 2010, 03:46:06 AM
Quote from: "Thara"
http://http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=487182638887&oid=102866751780&commentsfain, trist dar fain in acelasi timp...
Post by: kangdanlin on December 03, 2010, 04:09:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQpu9UoXCeM
Post by: zimbris on December 03, 2010, 05:27:06 AM
Post by: guest on December 03, 2010, 05:28:32 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 03, 2010, 05:32:20 AM
Post by: guest on December 03, 2010, 05:33:23 AM
Cu siguranta, cainele!
Post by: kangdanlin on December 03, 2010, 05:40:11 AM
Post by: Dia_Boca on December 03, 2010, 05:54:55 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 03, 2010, 07:46:34 AM
Quote from: "Dia_Boca"
sincer, de cate ori am vizionat clipul asta, mi s-a strans inima de mila cainelui... ce vina are el saracul ca a incaput pe mana "profesionistilor"?...asa asa, zi-le!!
Post by: kangdanlin on December 07, 2010, 02:27:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCpi8LoC69c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64XKCS-BnCM
Post by: zimbris on December 26, 2010, 10:24:26 AM
Ranger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVX98yH8XqU
Post by: zimbris on December 26, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmpsl1T0JQ
also judging by dialect I would imagine this one was also taken in Australia..
uite asa le trebuie astora care se sparg in figuri (initial)!! cum a simtit dintii cainelui "aa.. I'm OK now"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIRvVBpT-4w
Post by: zimbris on December 26, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfzyQicPAGQ
Post by: Man Stopper on December 26, 2010, 06:35:29 PM
Post by: kangdanlin on January 05, 2011, 12:40:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSyu37y7EuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCx2slfQgW0
Post by: kangdanlin on January 05, 2011, 01:15:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxyG4TrjqOI
Post by: zimbris on January 05, 2011, 11:41:48 PM
Quote from: "kangdanlin"
some clips i found..old school rulespe-astea le-am postat si eu pe-aici pe undeva...
Post by: zimbris on January 05, 2011, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: kangdanlin
ar fi grozav daca reportaje ca asta ar aparea si de la noi din romaniacainele sur din reportajul asta, seamana cu Greif al tau.. ce zici?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxyG4TrjqOI
Post by: kangdanlin on January 05, 2011, 11:58:37 PM
Quote from: "zimbris"
pe-astea le-am postat si eu pe-aici pe undeva...inseamna ca mi-au scapat mie
Post by: kangdanlin on January 05, 2011, 11:59:41 PM
Quote
cainele sur din reportajul asta, seamana cu Greif al tau.. ce zici?si mie mi-a trecut prin minte lucrul asta..parca au ceva in comun
Post by: zimbris on January 19, 2011, 02:01:52 PM
full episode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlyeY2dhQ6U
Post by: zimbris on January 19, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
Post by: guest on January 19, 2011, 02:11:33 PM
Post by: zimbris on January 19, 2011, 02:18:43 PM
Post by: zimbris on January 19, 2011, 02:24:19 PM
Post by: zimbris on January 20, 2011, 01:25:41 AM
Post by: zimbris on January 20, 2011, 01:32:51 AM
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1404482/4839580
Post by: zimbris on January 26, 2011, 04:00:34 PM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/East%20Dogs/perimetru.jpg)
Post by: zimbris on January 26, 2011, 04:01:28 PM
(http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt155/zimbris/East%20Dogs/polizeisaberlin1933fi9.jpg)
Post by: guest on January 26, 2011, 10:42:54 PM
in poza asta se poate vedea perimetrul cainelui de-alungul Zidului (pt cei care stiti despre ce e vorba);)
Post by: kangdanlin on January 26, 2011, 11:05:42 PM
Berlin 1933, politiasuper tare poza asta notworthy
Post by: zimbris on January 27, 2011, 01:39:49 AM
Post by: guest on March 03, 2011, 05:59:26 AM
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Post by: zimbris on April 04, 2011, 07:17:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyEh4q3wG5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q40QrzMt7uI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fa2WNuC-yU
Post by: zimbris on April 04, 2011, 07:28:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbgkT-BDGw
Post by: zimbris on April 13, 2011, 09:36:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV4VMCP59Vw
Post by: Sorin on April 13, 2011, 11:05:05 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 14, 2011, 08:38:24 PM
Post by: zimbris on April 14, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
Ce-mi place masculul din primul clip care e legat de gard. E foarte robust,chiar seamana cu tatal cateilor axei.corect!
The Black n Tan male tied up on the tree has very fast reaction in biting, his like lightning.. Wouldn't want him getting loose...!!!yep, that's the type of dog i would love to have again!
Post by: zimbris on April 18, 2011, 08:05:51 AM
Post by: zimbris on April 18, 2011, 08:26:43 AM
Post by: dux on April 18, 2011, 01:53:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcqMlYNtww&hd=1Sincer sa fiu demonstratia este slaba.cel putin la disciplina cainii sunt varza.parca ar fi caini incepatori.smucesc de lesa de prea multe ori pentru ai determina sa lucreze.
In my honest view this demo is poor. at least as far as obedience goes the dogs are rather poor too. they seem to be in their early training stages. the leash is being jerked often to get the dog to work.
Post by: zimbris on April 18, 2011, 02:15:20 PM
Sincer sa fiu demonstratia este slaba.cel putin la disciplina cainii sunt varza.parca ar fi caini incepatori.smucesc de lesa de prea multe ori pentru ai determina sa lucreze.corect
Post by: zimbris on May 03, 2011, 10:41:11 PM
(http://www.gjsentinel.com/images/photos/imgkit_sized/Police_dog_retires_7-6-9_600x400.jpg)
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/ready-to-retire
Post by: Sorin on May 04, 2011, 03:28:25 AM
Post by: zimbris on May 06, 2011, 12:06:44 PM
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/newsarchive/27634592/detail.html
Post by: Sorin on May 06, 2011, 12:22:57 PM
Post by: zimbris on May 13, 2011, 07:58:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtKKrgq8P4E
Post by: zimbris on May 13, 2011, 08:04:33 AM
Post by: Sorin on June 03, 2011, 12:47:32 AM
Post by: kangdanlin on June 03, 2011, 05:36:56 AM
Post by: kangdanlin on June 03, 2011, 05:46:40 AM
Post by: guest on June 03, 2011, 05:54:05 AM
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Post by: Sorin on June 03, 2011, 06:02:38 AM
Post by: guest on June 04, 2011, 06:05:57 AM
Post by: zimbris on June 04, 2011, 06:07:04 AM
Post by: guest on June 04, 2011, 06:09:05 AM
Post by: zimbris on June 04, 2011, 06:16:29 AM
Post by: zimbris on June 11, 2011, 10:11:42 AM
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 12:47:42 AM
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 12:49:24 AM
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 12:54:25 AM
Post by: Schwarz on June 30, 2011, 01:30:45 AM
Post by: kangdanlin on June 30, 2011, 01:52:32 AM
Post by: zimbris on June 30, 2011, 02:58:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9OtcNZid7Q&feature=share
asta nu e cg ;)
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 03:02:51 AM
Post by: dux on June 30, 2011, 08:23:42 AM
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 09:55:40 AM
Post by: guest on June 30, 2011, 11:18:45 AM
cred ca singurele exemplare la detine scanteie la sibiu.Gresit. ;)
Post by: Sorin on June 30, 2011, 11:20:27 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 07, 2011, 07:03:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp3d9xzYYCg
Post by: zimbris on July 07, 2011, 07:25:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=716oNEKUjhA
Vom vedea si poze in curand, cu doi caini "old school" de la acest domn, cu care am avut placerea sa vorbim despre CG la o cafelutza, impreuna cu niste prieteni (mica e lumea asta..) din Germania. Voi posta pozele in forum imediat ce le primesc, asta undeva pe la inceputul saptamanii viitoare.
Post by: Sorin on July 07, 2011, 09:41:51 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 13, 2011, 07:05:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi9LEJ6jzYw
Post by: zimbris on July 13, 2011, 07:08:07 AM
Post by: zimbris on July 13, 2011, 07:12:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxhoLKJbQrU
Post by: zimbris on July 19, 2011, 11:29:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EQ-PQVvXCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e3Z9TZYO_E
Post by: Sorin on July 19, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Post by: Sorin on August 04, 2011, 06:13:30 AM
Post by: Sorin on August 04, 2011, 06:16:41 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 17, 2011, 09:50:48 AM
Post by: Sorin on August 17, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
Post by: zimbris on August 17, 2011, 10:53:05 AM
:ok:Frumos exemplar obi"hai sa va invat cum sta treaba cu emoticoanele astea; si inainte si dupa emoticon, trebuie sa existe un spatiu (tasta "space") pt ca el sa fie postat corect. Deci, corectat:
:ok: Frumos exemplar obi"
;)
Post by: zimbris on September 04, 2011, 04:05:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0aOFliwI6U
Post by: zimbris on September 04, 2011, 04:54:30 PM
Post by: Sorin on September 13, 2011, 12:39:21 PM
Post by: Dia_Boca on September 16, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
Post by: zimbris on September 16, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
Post by: zimbris on September 16, 2011, 02:51:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyJTXk8i7Hs
Post by: guest on September 17, 2011, 02:12:12 AM
Post by: Schwarz on September 17, 2011, 02:27:24 AM
Post by: guest on September 17, 2011, 03:19:27 AM
Post by: Schwarz on September 17, 2011, 03:58:39 AM
Post by: guest on September 17, 2011, 04:06:03 AM
Fa o vizita pe la REGULAMENT (http://canisa-zimbris.com/forum/index.php?topic=9.0) inainte sa razi atat de bine! Inainte sa te inregistrezi pe acest forum se presupune ca esti de acord cu cele scrise acolo! Nu este prima data cand ai folosit aceste "emoticoane" care pe forum nu merg si nu esti nici singurul. Mesajul se adreseaza si celorlalti.
6. Postarile trebuie sa fie scrise citet,fara sa fie utilizat limbajul/prescurtarile folosite pe messenger si fara a exagera cu MAJUSCULELE – care pe Internet sunt asemenea cu ridicatul tonului vocii. Moderatorii au dreptul de a edita mesajele in cauza si de a avertiza membrii care posteaza in aceasta maniera. Daca dupa avertisment acestia nu isi revizuiesc postarile, risca stergerea acestora.
Multumesc!
Post by: zimbris on September 17, 2011, 10:11:42 AM
Peace :beer:
Post by: zimbris on September 19, 2011, 12:44:51 PM
Post by: Sorin on September 29, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
Post by: Sorin on October 12, 2011, 12:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIRvVBpT-4w&feature=player_embedded#!
Post by: zimbris on October 12, 2011, 12:20:56 AM
Post by: zimbris on October 25, 2011, 10:45:39 PM
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Post by: zimbris on October 25, 2011, 11:14:32 PM
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Post by: zimbris on October 25, 2011, 11:25:44 PM
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Post by: guest on October 26, 2011, 12:23:04 AM
Post by: brazil@brutus on October 26, 2011, 02:05:07 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on October 28, 2011, 04:13:45 PM
And those dogs being used as donkey's is the first time i have seen dogs moving cart's, they must of had very strong hips..
But probaly not for too long..!
Post by: zimbris on October 28, 2011, 08:41:06 PM
Dani the first pic you posted, this dog has a huge head in comparison to soldier..
also, did you note the leg thickness?
And those dogs being used as donkey's is the first time i have seen dogs moving cart's, they must of had very strong hips..
But probaly not for too long..!
true.. I don't think they cared much about that or that they knew about the "breed issues", they just needed the job done
Post by: zimbris on November 01, 2011, 01:21:38 AM
Unii nu stiu ce vor in viatza si cred ca asta doare tare, sau unii doar cred ca stiu ce vor si, pana sa-si dea seama, a trecut viatza pe langa ei.
In alta ordine de idei, sunt acolo si caini care nu prea au treaba cu ce se intampla in fatza lor, este exemplarul ala mai mare si mai "pufos" care de fapt arata de parca isi doreste sa fie in alta parte, la loc linistit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVtVPEe07w
Post by: zimbris on November 01, 2011, 01:24:23 AM
Post by: guest on November 01, 2011, 08:50:01 AM
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Post by: zimbris on November 26, 2011, 11:53:49 AM
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Post by: Man Stopper on November 27, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
Post by: zimbris on December 01, 2011, 12:09:52 AM
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Post by: Anouk on December 01, 2011, 02:30:51 AM
Cand vad animalutele astea cu cat devotament isi slujesc stapanul...raman fara cuvinte...nu cred sa existe ceva mai pur si mai adevarat
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Post by: Sorin on December 01, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
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Post by: fabius.m on December 01, 2011, 12:54:16 PM
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Post by: zimbris on December 06, 2011, 08:05:44 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on December 06, 2011, 04:14:47 PM
Post by: fabius.m on December 07, 2011, 02:44:36 AM
Post by: Sorin on December 11, 2011, 01:20:57 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 11, 2011, 01:28:57 AM
vremuri bune...........
Post by: fabius.m on December 11, 2011, 08:52:54 AM
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Post by: zimbris on December 11, 2011, 01:43:12 PM
Post by: guest on December 11, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
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Post by: Sorin on December 13, 2011, 09:54:18 AM
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Post by: guest on December 13, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 13, 2011, 10:18:25 AM
Post by: guest on December 13, 2011, 10:42:18 AM
niste poze mai mari n-ai gasit, ca-s cam mici astea..? :cheesy: :lol:Nu, da' pot sa caut, daca doresti... :laugh:
Imi pare rau de ele, stiu ca-s prea mari, dar mi-au placut.
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Post by: Sorin on December 13, 2011, 12:00:51 PM
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Post by: zimbris on December 22, 2011, 08:55:44 AM
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Post by: Man Stopper on December 23, 2011, 06:06:10 PM
Post by: guest on December 24, 2011, 01:24:56 AM
Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 12:05:47 PM
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Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 12:14:34 PM
Tessa versus Kuli :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSRrzRJuXWw
Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 12:35:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Mj2Xv7UGU
Post by: tessa on December 27, 2011, 12:45:26 PM
Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on December 27, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
Kuli is all CIVIL....!! :rockon:
Post by: zimbris on December 27, 2011, 09:40:53 PM
I also like their build, they have somewhat more square-ish shapes allover, head, body.. they have a rough look about them. Also they seem to have the same color (brown - dark sable.. something like that..) I so wish there was footage of Faro out there..
Remus seamana mult cu Kuli, cei care aleg linia lui Faro stiu foarte bine de ce o fac ;)
Imi place si constructia lor, ceva mai patratoasa, atat capul cat si bustul.. le da un aspect ceva mai "dur". De ademenea par sa aiba cam aceeasi culoare, un sur inchis maroniu, cam sa ceva.. Ce n-as da sa vad ceva filmari cu Faro..
Post by: zimbris on January 07, 2012, 04:08:07 PM
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Post by: guest on January 08, 2012, 12:34:48 AM
caini "echilibrati", care latra frumos si primesc bulina rosie in competitie sportiva!:laugh:
Post by: Man Stopper on January 08, 2012, 05:37:05 PM
Post by: guest on January 12, 2012, 01:41:07 PM
Post by: zimbris on January 13, 2012, 07:06:24 AM
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Post by: guest on January 13, 2012, 07:16:54 AM
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Post by: zimbris on January 13, 2012, 07:36:07 AM
:rockon:
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Post by: guest on January 13, 2012, 08:26:40 AM
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Post by: zimbris on January 13, 2012, 08:51:40 AM
Post by: Schwarz on January 13, 2012, 11:23:08 AM
Post by: guest on January 27, 2012, 03:11:22 PM
Post by: zimbris on January 27, 2012, 03:12:13 PM
Post by: HANS on January 27, 2012, 03:21:53 PM
5 m.
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nu cred
Post by: Schwarz on January 28, 2012, 12:40:23 AM
nu cred
eu cred, pentru ca pe vremea aia nu era Photoshop! ;)
Post by: bobo70 on January 28, 2012, 02:08:16 AM
nu cred
Nici eu....
Post by: guest on January 28, 2012, 02:09:52 AM
Post by: bobo70 on January 28, 2012, 02:16:48 AM
Lasand gluma... Nici un caine nu poate sa faca asa ceva daca nu are gardul o inclinatie de cateva grade si niste scandurele de sprijin pe el. Pur si simplu nu cred ca este posibil. Am vazut destui caini agili, dar sa urce un gard de 5m fara nici un ajutor nu pot sa cred. Mai exista o varianta: nu se stie de unde a inceput urcarea. Poate a sarit de pe un postament de 2m...
Post by: guest on January 28, 2012, 02:27:27 AM
Poate a sarit de pe un postament de 2m...Si asta se poate.
Chiar daca nu exista la vremea aceea Photoshop, acum exista si poti face multe chiar si pe o poza scanata. Spun asta nu doar cu privire la poza de mai sus...sincer nu cred ca e modificata, ci doar ca exista un detaliu care nu se vede in poza datorita caruia cainele a ajuns asa sus. Totusi, de partea cealalta a obstacolului parca se vede un plan inclinat care sa ajute cainele la coborare, dar care incepe de undeva de la jumatate.
Post by: Bogdan on January 28, 2012, 02:32:22 AM
Nimeni nu risca asa ceva doar pentru o poza.
Post by: guest on January 28, 2012, 02:41:31 AM
Post by: ares. on January 28, 2012, 02:58:26 AM
Post by: huby on January 28, 2012, 09:58:35 AM
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Post by: huby on January 28, 2012, 10:06:06 AM
Pe gard de sarma am vazut si eu, dar Doberman, nu CG.ciobanesti germani si maine ma duc sa masor gardul :) ca se cam chinuiau sa il sara
Post by: guest on January 29, 2012, 12:57:24 PM
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Post by: zimbris on January 29, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
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Post by: Sorin on January 29, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
Post by: guest on January 29, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
Ce privire dura areIar botnita stil Hannibal accentueaza lucrul asta. :grin:
Post by: guest on February 01, 2012, 03:20:09 PM
Thumbs up for the dog, hell yeah! :rockon:
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Post by: zimbris on February 02, 2012, 12:08:06 AM
Post by: ares. on February 02, 2012, 12:22:18 AM
Post by: guest on February 02, 2012, 09:05:53 AM
Post by: guest on February 15, 2012, 09:45:23 AM
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Post by: hora on February 16, 2012, 06:20:40 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on February 16, 2012, 07:20:47 AM
If it works for the government well too good and for the better the way i see it..
Post by: bobo70 on February 16, 2012, 08:06:22 AM
Jandarmeria are propriul sau bazin genetic sau apeleaza la reproducatori din afara? Au propriul lor "pedigree" pentru caini sau apar in COR?
Din cate stiu eu au primit cateva exemplare bune chiar de la Zimbris in ultimii ani, dar cainii nu apar in COR, nu au pedigree si au o evidenta separata. Nu stiu care mai este situatia actuala, dar nu cred ca s-a schimbat ceva in acest sens.
Nu suntem capabili nici macar sa copiem ceea ce au facut bine altii, vezi Cehia, Slovacia, etc. Acum cativa ani au achizitionat niste exemplare de show, complet inutile, pentru ca marii specialisti de la acea vreme stiau ca Ciobanesc German este numai cainele black&tan.
Meseriasi mari astia si nu numai la caini... :laugh: Bine ca prostia nu doare, altfel astia tipau si noapte in somn... :laugh:
Post by: HANS on February 16, 2012, 11:36:40 AM
Post by: dux on February 16, 2012, 12:18:19 PM
Jandarmeria are propriul sau bazin genetic sau apeleaza la reproducatori din afara? Au propriul lor "pedigree" pentru caini sau apar in COR?cainii din MAI provin de la Sibiu.mai exista unele exemplare achizitionate de catre cadre de la crescatori civili si apoi donate unitatilor unde-si desfasoara activitatea.am vazut anul trecut la un politist care era la curs la Sibiu un frate cu Figo.foarte bun catelul.
Post by: dux on February 16, 2012, 12:28:31 PM
Acum cativa ani au achizitionat niste exemplare de show, complet inutile, pentru ca marii specialisti de la acea vreme stiau ca Ciobanesc German este numai cainele black&tan.asa este Bogdane.a fost o mare greseala.dar acum mai exista foarte putine exemplare de show.din 2008 au inlocuit septelul si acum sunt multi caini de lucru.am vazut chiar caini foarte buni.lucrurile s-au mai schimbat.
pot sa spun cu mandrie ca am ajutat foarte mult scoala in introducerea liniei de lucru.si voi continua sa o fac.oamenii aia ii consider colegii mei.si au bune intentii.si-au mai schimbat si ei mentalitatea.au venit si au facut monte cu caini de la Constanta,Brasov.Au luat pui de la Vali.sunt pe un drum bun.
Sibiul pe vremuri a avut caini de linie veche foarte buni.eu am vazut prin anii 80 astfel de exemplare.de fapt si cainii mei (Rex,Faleza,Tarzan)pe care i-am avut in anii aia proveneau din scoala de la Sibiu.
Post by: hora on February 16, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Most of these dogs look like they come from the same gene pool.
If it works for the government well too good and for the better the way i see it..
Well, I suppose that once in a while they have to bring in fresh blood, to avoid the danger of inbreeding, of "narrowing" the gene pool and, thus, of weakening the genes. I think that partnership with a professional working line breeder would be a good source of qualitative dogs for them.
Post by: bobo70 on February 16, 2012, 03:26:48 PM
Post by: dux on February 17, 2012, 01:59:33 AM
ceea ce ma deranjaza pe mine este izolarea lor de ceea ce inseamna viata chinologica reala...daca vorbim strict de scoala de la Sibiu lucrurile nu stau asa.nu sunt izolati de viata chinologica reala.activitatile chinologice din scoala sunt foarte bogate.in fiecare an se tin ateliere de lucru cu Frontexul,se fac campionate,se participa la misiuni in strainatate.dar toate activitatile astea vizeaza strict chinologia specifica cainelui de serviciu.eu nu cred ca viata chinologica reala inseamna neaparat activitatile ce se desfasoara sub egida FCI.
eu am vorbit si cu cativa straini si sa stii ca nici ei nu prea au treaba cu ce inseamna activitatile sub egida FCI.
Nemtii nici macar nu au campionat intern de dresaj(al politiei).l-au scos de cativa ani deoarece au spus ca se fac cheltuieli prea mari.
Post by: ares. on February 17, 2012, 02:04:46 AM
Post by: ares. on February 17, 2012, 02:05:54 AM
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daca vorbim strict de scoala de la Sibiu lucrurile nu stau asa.nu sunt izolati de viata chinologica reala.activitatile chinologice din scoala sunt foarte bogateceea ce a spus dux pot sa confirm si eu
Post by: Man Stopper on February 20, 2012, 09:00:52 AM
His maternal grandsire i believe SG Adir Pohranicni straze was a notable dog also, a Dutch Police K9..
Post by: Man Stopper on February 20, 2012, 09:15:03 AM
Post by: zimbris on February 20, 2012, 11:21:57 AM
Ikar zo Severnej hranice is another dog i found on You Tube, he's somthing you don't see so often these days IMO...!I guess you're referring to the working qualities of the dogs..?
In terms of bloodlines, I like Gandhi vom Fuchsgraben better.
Post by: guest on March 16, 2012, 04:20:13 AM
Post by: guest on March 18, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
Post by: fabius.m on March 18, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Post by: Sorin on March 20, 2012, 12:29:06 AM
Post by: guest on April 15, 2012, 01:07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMxIVPfB1U8
Post by: zimbris on April 15, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Post by: guest on April 15, 2012, 11:18:25 PM
Post by: Man Stopper on April 22, 2012, 08:31:23 AM
And the linebreedings super, Dani knows what i'm on about..! :rockon:
Post by: zimbris on April 22, 2012, 03:39:25 PM
Dani knows what i'm on about..! :rockon::beer: :rockon:
Post by: ben on May 10, 2012, 09:09:25 AM
Post by: ben on May 10, 2012, 09:11:19 AM
http://vimeo.com/33065873
Post by: ben on May 10, 2012, 09:13:30 AM
http://vimeo.com/32304307
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on May 11, 2012, 03:34:35 AM
caz similar...:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: oare exista si alta situatie in afara de "in vis" in care as putea si eu sa ajung la un asa nivel paradisiac? :grin: :grin:
http://vimeo.com/32304307
Post by: guest on May 31, 2012, 12:57:19 PM
Post by: ben on May 31, 2012, 12:58:53 PM
Post by: guest on May 31, 2012, 01:05:19 PM
Post by: ben on May 31, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
Post by: ben on June 02, 2012, 05:17:20 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/553630_376687082387441_100001384579119_1104882_1762280515_n.jpg)
Post by: fabius.m on June 02, 2012, 05:53:43 AM
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on June 02, 2012, 07:34:13 AM
Vad bine, e un CG negru sau are brun pe picioare?are putin pe picioare...am un coleg care il are pe fratele lui si el avand la fel...se vede mai bine in anumite perioade ale anului (probabil are legatura cu naparlirea). In alte perioade trebuie sa te uiti foarte atent ca sa iti dai seama ca nu e negru complet. Ce imi place la el (al colegului) este capul si botul gen pitbull, maseterii foarte bine reliefati, proeminenti, desi, ciudat, nu a avut parte de oase la viata lui :grin: . Oricum, vad ca acesta de la Sibiu pare mic in foto, in realitate este mult mai mare si mai masiv, l-am vazut pe viu.
Post by: guest on June 02, 2012, 08:16:56 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428461_376688125720670_100001384579119_1104916_477942718_n.jpg)
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on June 02, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Post by: ben on June 02, 2012, 10:35:38 AM
Post by: guest on June 06, 2012, 03:14:03 PM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425985_231681710248694_1381149000_n.jpg)
Post by: guest on June 06, 2012, 03:14:36 PM
Post by: guest on June 09, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p_Y9X9c6mw
Post by: Man Stopper on June 09, 2012, 09:54:09 PM
Post by: guest on July 01, 2012, 01:36:13 AM
Post by: Man Stopper on July 02, 2012, 11:53:48 PM
by Hundmeister on You Tube..
Some courage and loads of drive in these dog's..
Post by: guest on July 09, 2012, 05:45:07 AM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197727_10150876226586781_1810750043_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/34410_440385136780_299077_n.jpg)
Post by: ben on July 09, 2012, 05:56:37 AM
Post by: prototype on July 09, 2012, 06:08:00 AM
Post by: ben on July 09, 2012, 06:08:54 AM
Imi place primul, are un cap mai masculin. :)si mie-mi place primul mai mult
Post by: ben on July 12, 2012, 09:15:39 AM
Post by: ben on July 12, 2012, 09:19:49 AM
Post by: ben on July 12, 2012, 09:52:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6kWeOKT_ds
Post by: Sorin on July 22, 2012, 05:22:18 AM
Post by: ben on July 22, 2012, 06:49:28 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/484502_357322301004438_568582319_n.jpg)
Post by: guest on July 22, 2012, 07:00:57 AM
Un exemplar frumos la militienii astia:yes:
Post by: guest on July 25, 2012, 01:18:15 AM
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on July 25, 2012, 03:20:55 AM
(http://i1150.photobucket.com/albums/o605/DordaiCarmen/Ciobanesti%20Germani/PoliceGSD.jpg)Da-mi Doamne si mie o zi ca asta te roooogg notworthy
Post by: ben on July 25, 2012, 03:30:09 AM
Da-mi Doamne si mie o zi ca asta te roooogg notworthy:grin:
Post by: ceaiu on July 25, 2012, 03:51:52 AM
Daca cineva acolo sus are simtul umorului si iti da o zi ca aceea, dar in postura celui de pe caldaram. ;)
Post by: ben on July 25, 2012, 04:02:14 AM
Dorintele trebuie formulate cu mare atentie.Da, e nevoie de atentie cand vine vorba de asa ceva..
Daca cineva acolo sus are simtul umorului si iti da o zi ca aceea, dar in postura celui de pe caldaram. ;)
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on July 25, 2012, 06:23:47 AM
Dorintele trebuie formulate cu mare atentie.:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Daca cineva acolo sus are simtul umorului si iti da o zi ca aceea, dar in postura celui de pe caldaram. ;)
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 01:36:20 AM
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 02:02:23 AM
Here goes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCryLa2LL4o
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 02:15:43 AM
Mai am una, pe care o vazusem prin anii '90 la NBC si o gasisem mai recent pe VHS pe Amazon la americani.http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/k9-patrolunleashed/trailers/
Post by: Sorin on August 09, 2012, 02:41:38 AM
Post by: Sorin on August 09, 2012, 02:48:50 AM
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 03:05:40 AM
Post by: prototype on August 09, 2012, 03:37:27 AM
Ciobanescul German e caine de companie. Admirabil chiar. :)
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 04:08:48 AM
Ciobanescul German e caine de companie. Admirabil chiar. :)...depinde.. de companie pt cine? :grin:
Post by: prototype on August 09, 2012, 04:16:49 AM
Post by: ben on August 09, 2012, 04:31:33 AM
Pentru cine doreste ca al sau companion sa coopereze. Nu sa se ceara in brate ca il doare crupa sau ca s-a uitat un pechinez urat la el. :lol::grin:
Chiar m-am gandit zilele astea la lucrurile legate de cat ajutor trebuie cineva sa primeasca din partea patrupedului in caz de atac real.. Intr-un final tot tu, omul, tragi linie sau dai nota finala.. etc, finalul situatiei e in mana ta, nu in gura cainelui. Eu vad cainele ca fiind prima linie de aparare intr-o astfel de situatie - iar daca e vorba de un caine FOARTE bun atunci da, prima si ultima linie de aparare, in sensul ca foarte probabil amprenta unui astfel de caine se va face simtita rapid, chiar si in cazul unei interventii scurte.
Revenind putin la clipul postat de mine.. acuma.. in opinia mea, nu era nevoie ca aia sa lase cainele sa- gaureasca lu ala ceafa si sa urle atata. Cainele l-a prins.. ok, enough, ia masurile corespunzatoare post-atac canin. Dar americanii mai stau si sa "savureze" putin momentul :lol: Lucrurile s-au mais chimbat in ultimii ani dar sunt convins ca sunt "n" cazuri cu politisti care abuza de cainii din dotare.. doar ca nu exista o camera video care sa-i filmeze.
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on August 09, 2012, 07:54:17 AM
sunt convins ca sunt "n" cazuri cu politisti care abuza de cainii din dotare.. doar ca nu exista o camera video care sa-i filmeze.:yes: ::whistling::
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 05:04:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51D0mgme9J8
Post by: Sorin on August 12, 2012, 05:43:11 AM
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 05:45:29 AM
frumos black & tanda
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 06:17:59 AM
Post by: prototype on August 12, 2012, 06:19:01 AM
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 06:21:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykreaM5pARY
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 06:23:32 AM
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 06:25:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4FC7QhGDs
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 06:33:19 AM
Post by: prototype on August 12, 2012, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: ben on August 12, 2012, 10:36:34 AM
Un golanas avea o problema la coapsa si mergea schiop, cred ca s-a lovit de o dantura sanatoasa. :lol:Ce e drept nu sunt pt folosirea cainelui in anumite situatii dar astia din clip chiar meritau sa gaseasca ce-au cautat.
Post by: prototype on August 12, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
Post by: ceaiu on August 17, 2012, 06:48:56 AM
Poza este luata de pe behindtheblueline.ca unde se gasesc mai multe poze de genul asta facute pentru calendare.
Post by: ben on August 17, 2012, 07:55:07 AM
Post by: prototype on August 17, 2012, 09:11:12 AM
Post by: ben on August 24, 2012, 12:25:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2s8c5GQrFs
Post by: ben on August 24, 2012, 12:43:06 AM
Post by: guest on August 24, 2012, 01:48:20 AM
Ce determinare a avut cainele asta.. :rockon:Foarte tare! L-au tarat din masina cu tot cu cainele agatat de el!
Post by: ben on August 31, 2012, 12:12:45 PM
Post by: ben on September 04, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
Post by: prototype on September 05, 2012, 02:58:21 AM
Post by: ben on September 05, 2012, 03:03:29 AM
Cainii aia nu se cunosc intre ei? Nu-s socializati? Ce l-a scuturat surul pe negricios! :shocked:La o tensiune ca aia vazuta in filmare, cred ca si cainii care se cunosc intre ei s-ar lua la bataie, Hun si Briska s-au incins doar pt ca a intrat un straniero in curte si s-a facut putin la ei.. Oricum, sunt convins ca momente de-astea au loc din cand in cand, la tam tam-uri de-astea de strada.
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on September 05, 2012, 07:13:23 AM
La o tensiune ca aia vazuta in filmare, cred ca si cainii care se cunosc intre ei s-ar lua la bataie, Hun si Briska s-au incins doar pt ca a intrat un straniero in curte si s-a facut putin la ei.. Oricum, sunt convins ca momente de-astea au loc din cand in cand, la tam tam-uri de-astea de strada.da..e tensiune acolo...cainii aia nu stiu ca ei sunt politisti si restul sunt golani....ei reactioneaza doar dupa instincte...si ...intotdeauna instinctele sunt mai puternice ca orice dresaj. e explicabil si scuzabil ce au facut....cainii erau stresati si nervosi. Cainele meu s-ar omori cu ai altor colegi..ei nu stiu ca sunt colegi ;)
Post by: Man Stopper on September 05, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
Cainele meu s-ar omori cu ai altor colegi..ei nu stiu ca sunt colegi ;)I believe in what you say, arms are arms. And legs are legs.. Not much difference from one Man to the next, especially in a riot situation we like to imagine..
That black dog must have some firm genetic grip, running through his veins...!! :devil:
Post by: dux on September 05, 2012, 11:30:41 AM
Cainii aia nu se cunosc intre ei? Nu-s socializati? Ce l-a scuturat surul pe negricios! :shocked:caine bun si conductor prost.cam asta e in filmulet.
Post by: ben on September 05, 2012, 12:27:11 PM
caine bun si conductor prost.cam asta e in filmulet.:grin: scurt si la subiect.
Eu cred ca apar si situatii de-astea iar la viteza cu are se intampla lucrurile nah, se mai intampla sa nu ai contro deplin, moment de momoent, asupra anumitor factori dar deh, nu am experienta de teren, e doar o parere. Dar cainii imi plac, una peste alta nu sunt caini care sa dea semne de "vreau la mama", tinand cont de forfota / presiunea evenimentului.
Post by: guest on September 07, 2012, 02:42:30 AM
15 August 2011.
A police dog is recovering after being struck by a brick in the Tottenham riots and suffering a fractured skull.
Three-year-old German Shepherd Obi was with trainer Constable Phil Wells in the midst of the violence last weekend when he was hit by one of the many missiles aimed at police.
Constable Wells said the incident was "very emotional" and that seeing Obi struck was like watching his "best friend and colleague" injured.
He said: "Obi is trained in public order, and that may be dispersing a crowd or pushing them back.
"We were on a stationary point when we came under heavy bombardment. There were lots of missiles coming at us, bottles, bricks, petrol bombs, street furniture, too many to count and one hit Obi on the top of the head.
"Initially he was a bit shocked but I gave him a checkover and tried to avoid any further injuries and after the initial shock he seemed fine so we carried on for another couple of hours.
"Afterwards he was assessed and was showing signs he needed veterinary help. He was lethargic and was bleeding from the left nostril which could be a sign of head trauma so he was taken to the vets and assessed and the vet was not happy about the impact he had had so he was transferred to the Royal Veterinary School in Cambridge for a CT scan.
"That showed he had a fractured skull above the left eye socket."
Obi was treated for his injuries and is now on medication, and signed off work, until he recovers.
His only outward sign of injury is a small shaved patch above his left eye where vets checked for bruising.
Obi has lived in Surrey with Constable Wells, his wife Laura and children Abigail, seven, and Thomas, three, since he was eight weeks old and is seen as one of the family.
The officer said: "To see your best friend and work colleague get injured while at work is difficult but he is getting a lot support from everyone and he will be back fighting fit.
"I spend more time with Obi sometimes than with my children and family. When I am at work, he is at work and when I am at home, he is at home.
"He is my best friend and to see him get injured, to see him on a theatre table and you're not sure what has happened and you're not sure if it's touch and go, of course it is very emotional."
Sursa (http://news.sky.com/story/874866/riots-pcs-best-friend-obi-the-dog-injured).
Post by: AXX Police Tracker on September 07, 2012, 10:28:16 AM
Post by: ben on September 22, 2012, 12:02:15 AM
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Post by: prototype on October 20, 2012, 06:08:16 AM
Post by: ben on October 20, 2012, 12:25:54 PM
Ce a gustat din ala din penultimul clip. :grin::lol:
Post by: ben on November 02, 2012, 01:08:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRxETVA9l6c
Post by: ben on November 02, 2012, 01:18:53 PM
Post by: ben on November 05, 2012, 04:01:28 PM
Post by: guest on November 30, 2012, 01:56:38 AM
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378885_10151121704351781_349585772_n.jpg)
Post by: ben on November 30, 2012, 02:32:08 AM
Post by: hora on November 30, 2012, 10:46:24 AM
Post by: ben on December 25, 2012, 07:52:37 AM
(http://www.schattendal.com/img/litters/b/remy.k9.lg.jpg)
Post by: prototype on December 25, 2012, 10:03:49 AM
Post by: ben on December 25, 2012, 10:39:13 AM
Post by: guest on December 25, 2012, 10:40:11 AM
Off.. am undeva pe un CD vechi un clip de vreo 2 minute cu Tom dar nu-l gasesc... :drink:
:gunner:
Post by: prototype on December 27, 2012, 12:34:52 AM
Off.. am undeva pe un CD vechi (2003) un clip de vreo 2 minute cu Tom dar nu-l gasesc... :drink:Cauta-l, vreau sa-l vad si eu.
Post by: ben on December 27, 2012, 01:13:17 AM
Cauta-l, vreau sa-l vad si eu.Mi-e teama ca l-am aruncat (cd-ul).. Era un clip cu multe atacuri lansate pe costum, sa vezi ce hal de izbituri zgomotoase.. si mai erau ceva secvente cu cautari (antrenamente) in spatii publice.
Post by: guest on December 27, 2012, 01:25:37 AM
Mi-e teama ca l-am aruncat (cd-ul).. Era un clip cu multe atacuri lansate pe costum, sa vezi ce hal de izbituri zgomotoase.. si mai erau ceva secvente cu cautari (antrenamente) in spatii publice.
:Sad:
Post by: ben on January 03, 2013, 01:46:07 AM
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/399259_10151143163255950_1428305755_n.jpg)
Post by: ben on February 11, 2013, 02:47:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdXG6bUgSTY
Post by: ben on February 11, 2013, 02:50:52 PM
Post by: ben on March 07, 2013, 01:33:36 PM
Post by: ben on March 07, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo02hqxFpnI
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 12:26:01 PM
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Omu' era deja jos, pt ce-au mai pus cainele sa muste.... mai ramanea sa-i traga si vreo 20 de gloante in cap, sa fie siguri ca nu mai e o amenintare..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltarUmp_YWA
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 01:41:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRYzfJX-V94
Daca mai ajung la unitatea de politie canina din Lincoln, iau camera cu mine si promit sa aduc ceva materiale video.
Post by: Sorin on March 19, 2013, 01:41:57 PM
si cu noi atunci se vedea ca sunt stresati rau
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 01:50:12 PM
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 02:38:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31tFewCUrEc
Post by: ben on March 19, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Post by: prototype on March 21, 2013, 10:00:07 AM
Post by: guest on March 21, 2013, 10:03:42 AM
Cretinii care au stat la radacina fenomenului "hooligan".. ce ma bucur ca n-a ramas dator cg-ul ala!L-a prins chiar bine pe individ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31tFewCUrEc
Tot uitandu-ma la astfel de filmari, e nevoie clara de caini cu psihic puternic in astfel de cazuri, daca animalul e "mamaliga", nu ar face fata unei asemenea presiuni.
Post by: dux on March 21, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:02:47 PM
Se poate numi caine de real, daca musca dupa ce si-a luat cateva low kick-uri, nu? :)Eu zic ca da! Sincer cred ca-i caram si eu cateva aluia..
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:05:18 PM
dupa cum vedeti cainii sunt in prima linie.imi place fermitatea de care dau dovada politistii.la noi trebuie sa-i vorbesti borfasului cu ,,domnule''.daca am folosi cainii cum ii folosesc cei de afara ne-ar reclama la CEDO.Pai la noi e terenul compromis, pt ca borfasul e preten bun cu parlamentarul.
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:08:05 PM
L-a prins chiar bine pe individ!Pai de-aia tot trambitam de caini cu psihic puternic!!!!! Ne-au luat la misto multi pe chestia asta dar sa se duca in padure cu totii si sa ia si pet-urile cu ei, ca pe strada vor da rateu, asta e sigur.
Tot uitandu-ma la astfel de filmari, e nevoie clara de caini cu psihic puternic in astfel de cazuri, daca animalul e "mamaliga", nu ar face fata unei asemenea presiuni.
Schutzhund mutzchund si examen de displazie si o iei pe strada.. thank you but no, thank you. (nu ca as minimaliza importanta testului de displazie!)
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:21:31 PM
Executa-l frateeeeee :laugh: ce s-o fi gandit gagiu', "I can take this dog" :cheesy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz-Iycjg3VI
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:32:07 PM
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:44:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0nRVFClKIQ
Post by: ben on March 21, 2013, 02:53:25 PM
Anii trec si...tot cainii sunt cea mai eficienta "tehnologie" in astfel de situatii..
Ieri urmaream un material video cu un politist care, dupa ce n-a mai lucrat in politie, a platit 10.000 dolari (atata a cerut sectia de politie) sa puata lua in proprietate personala cainele cu care lucrase, asa mult s-a atasat de el. Imi plac cazurile astea, in care cainii nu sunt vazuti/tratati doar ca unelte de lucru in domeniul asta.
Jos palaria in fatza tipului respectiv.
Post by: prototype on March 21, 2013, 10:37:14 PM
Chilianul ala a avut noroc de puloverul ala larg, ca altfel ii gusta putin carnita. :)
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 12:25:24 AM
Chilianul ala a avut noroc de puloverul ala larg, ca altfel ii gusta putin carnita. :)...da, putina carnita cu chili :grin:
Post by: prototype on March 22, 2013, 03:18:52 AM
E bun ca scade colesterolul. :rolleyes:
Post by: ben on March 22, 2013, 04:37:31 AM
Post by: guest on March 22, 2013, 01:06:32 PM
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The gunman, who was suspected of already killing four people and shooting at police officers, was holed up inside an abandoned bar in upstate New York. He had made no contact with law enforcement officials for hours and the belief was that he was armed and dangerous.
A police robot equipped with a camera was ready, but its use may have been limited because the gunman’s hiding place was littered with debris.
So a tactical dog named Ape, equipped with a camera, went into the building first on Thursday, followed by agents with the State Police and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Ape, a Czech German Shepherd, was shot in the chest just as he breached the doorway.
Officers returned fire, killing the gunman, Kurt R. Myers, and then turned to try to save Ape. They performed CPR on the dog as he was rushed in an armored vehicle to a nearby veterinary office.
“We were trying to do everything we could to try to save its life,” said Dr. Emily M. Green, one of the veterinarians at Herkimer Veterinary Associates who worked on Ape.
But he died a short time after he arrived.
Ape was 2 years 4 months old, and had been on active duty for the F.B.I. for a little over two weeks.
“Ape was doing what he was trained to do and made the ultimate sacrifice for his team,” the agency said in a statement released by Special Agent Ann Todd. “His actions were heroic and prevented his teammates from being seriously wounded or killed.”
Ape was to be taken to the agency’s headquarters in Quantico, Va., where he will be buried and have his name added to a memorial wall dedicated to dogs killed while on duty.
Ape was the second F.B.I. tactical dog killed in the line of duty, Agent Todd said. On Oct. 28, 2009, Freddy, a 2 ½-year-old Belgian Malinois, was also killed while accompanying F.B.I. agents who were attempting to make an arrest. He had begun duty with the F.B.I. in September 2008.
Though the F.B.I. and the police declined to discuss the specifics of why and how Ape was used in the raid, outside experts said his role highlighted the increasing use of dogs by civilian law enforcement agencies in some of the most dangerous assignments.
In fact, the use of the dog in the quiet village of Herkimer, N.Y., is strikingly similar to the way dogs have been used by the military during more than a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
A dog accompanied a Navy SEAL team on the raid that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden, and the elite military unit has reportedly purchased a number of vests, equipped with infrared night-vision cameras, for their dogs.
The cameras allow a handler to see what the dog is seeing from as far as 1,000 yards away.
“This is a military application brought to local law enforcement, which is a very common thing now,” said Robert S. Tucker, the chief executive of T and M Protection Resources.
And with scores of veterans trained to handle dogs retiring from the military, there are more people capable of working with dogs in a civilian setting.
It is a far cry from how dogs were used when the New York Police Department acquired its first bomb-sniffing dog in years — Brandy — in 1971.
Michael Stapleton, a former police officer who was working on the tactical patrol force at the time, recalled how Brandy was viewed skeptically until she detected explosives on a plane at Kennedy Airport.
Still, Mr. Stapleton said, in the 1980s there was resistance to using dogs to patrol sensitive locations. “The thought was people would take offense to the aggressive stance of dogs,” said Mr. Stapleton, who in 1986 founded Michael Stapleton Associates, a security consulting firm.
That changed almost overnight on Sept. 11, 2001.
Dogs can now be found sniffing out everything from bed bugs to bombs.
But it was not until more recently, experts said, that dogs started to be used on raids like the one in upstate New York.
The F.B.I. said that Ape had just started working on active duty on Feb. 25 after “successfully completing a demanding tactical training course.”
“He will be missed by his F.B.I. family,” the agency said.
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/03/15/nyregion/dog/dog-popup.jpg)
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrMB2MYfEdc
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 11:18:04 AM
Ce timorat e cainele ala!
Post by: guest on March 25, 2013, 11:19:37 AM
Mi se pare o suma mare pentru un "pet", dar intr-un fel ii inteleg, au bagat totusi niste bani in caine pana la varsta aia, mancare, veterinar etc.
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:31:03 AM
Mi se pare o suma mare pentru un "pet", dar intr-un fel ii inteleg, au bagat totusi niste bani in caine pana la varsta aia, mancare, veterinar etc.Politistii au mers pe mana crescatorilor si s-au intepat. Banii, aia vorbesc...
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 11:32:39 AM
Adevarul e ca daca nu te apuci de cautat info, ti-o iei urat.Bingo!!
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
Nu comentez, va las pe voi sa comentati.
Am sa spun doar ca apare si bunica lui Manto de Zimbris in material :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRi31zGp_Hc
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 12:39:22 PM
Post by: Sorin on March 25, 2013, 12:40:13 PM
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 12:41:27 PM
Post by: guest on March 25, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
"... ca in Caragiale"... :lol::laugh: :grin:
Am sa spun doar ca apare si bunica lui Manto de Zimbris in material :):)
Post by: ben on March 25, 2013, 12:42:50 PM
Mie mi-a placut mai mult Rott-ul, Boss mi s-a parut timorat, nu parea in largul sau acolo.Mie mi-a placut doar cum si-a prezentat dux marfa, restul.... lasa de dorit.
dux stie pe ce lume traieste, pe orice "platou" ajunge.
Post by: guest on March 25, 2013, 12:44:55 PM
Post by: dux on March 25, 2013, 01:28:55 PM
Saracul caine, se vede ca n-are nici o treaba cu "realitatea".Nu este o suma mare.Aproape 500 euro.Pune-ti problema cat s-a cheltuit cu el pana la varsta aia.Institutia nu pune problema cat de bun este cainele.Pet sau nu.Institutia ,,judeca''strict din punct de vedere contabil.
Mi se pare o suma mare pentru un "pet", dar intr-un fel ii inteleg, au bagat totusi niste bani in caine pana la varsta aia, mancare, veterinar etc.
Revenind la ,,calitatea''cainilor.Este rezultatul introducerii cainilor de show in septelul scolii de la Sibiu.Acum lucrurile s-au reparat in mare parte.Pacat ca Sibiul nu si-a conservat septelul pe care la avut in anii 70-80.Daca faceau asta acum erau cei mai tari din Europa la capitolul ciobanesc german.Prin anii 80 eu am avut caini de acolo.Si erau tari de tot.Inclusiv Ben al lui Dan avea ,,samanta''de acolo.
Post by: guest on March 25, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Nu este o suma mare.Aproape 500 euro.Pune-ti problema cat s-a cheltuit cu el pana la varsta aia.Institutia nu pune problema cat de bun este cainele.Pet sau nu.Institutia ,,judeca''strict din punct de vedere contabil.Stiu, de aceea spun ca in principiu pentru un caine de calitate "pet" care poate la o adica sa fie adoptat si de la un adapost de animale, mi se pare mult, dar in cazul asta ii inteleg de ce cer suma asta.
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 02:19:57 PM
Post by: prototype on March 25, 2013, 02:33:30 PM
Boss mi se pare un caine timorat.
Post by: ben on March 26, 2013, 10:42:37 AM
Post by: guest on March 26, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
Post by: ben on March 26, 2013, 02:11:34 PM
Post by: guest on March 26, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
Am crezut ca e vorba de ceva ce a avut loc in Ro.Nooo... Noi suntem la ani lumina departare de o asemenea gandire....
Post by: prototype on March 26, 2013, 11:04:50 PM
Am crezut ca e vorba de ceva ce a avut loc in Ro.Asta a fost initial si senzatia mea, si dupa ce am realizat ca in Romania nu se poate asa ceva, chiar voiam sa completez: Senatul SUA.
Post by: guest on March 26, 2013, 11:08:07 PM
Asta a fost initial si senzatia mea, si dupa ce am realizat ca in Romania nu se poate asa ceva, chiar voiam sa completez: Senatul SUA.Da, e greseala mea pentru ca n-am fost destul de clara.
Post by: prototype on March 27, 2013, 12:02:43 PM
Post by: ben on March 27, 2013, 12:45:53 PM
Post by: ben on March 28, 2013, 01:06:26 AM
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Post by: prototype on March 28, 2013, 01:07:08 AM
Post by: guest on March 28, 2013, 01:08:55 AM
Frumos tare cainele ala!Subscriu!!!
Post by: ben on March 28, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
Post by: ben on March 29, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
Din nou, va rog nu postati in afara forumului.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19fxAA3mks4
Post by: prototype on March 29, 2013, 10:37:53 PM
Nici in somn nu erau echilibrati. :toofunny:
Post by: ben on March 30, 2013, 11:27:19 AM
Eu am impresia ca Polizei s-a rupt de SV din cauza faptului ca acesta le tot furniza caini pe care nu-i mai puteau controla. :lol:Nu.. cainii erau oarecum energici dar moi.. am ceva secvente video dar din anumite motive nu le pot posta.
Nici in somn nu erau echilibrati. :toofunny:
Post by: prototype on April 02, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
Post by: ben on April 02, 2013, 11:16:06 AM
Post by: prototype on April 13, 2013, 10:19:53 AM
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Post by: prototype on April 14, 2013, 04:24:50 AM
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Post by: ben on April 15, 2013, 09:21:02 AM
Post by: guest on May 18, 2013, 10:12:37 AM
Trust in me my friend for I am your comrade. I will protect you with my last breath When all others have left you And the loneliness of the night closes in, I will be at your side.
Together we will conquer all obstacles, And search out those who might wish harm to others. All I ask of you is compassion, The caring touch of your hands. It is for you that I will unselfishly give my life And spend my nights unrested. Although our days together May be marked by the passing of the seasons Know that each day at your side is my reward.
My days are measured by The coming and going of your footsteps. I anticipate them at every opening of the door. You are the voice of caring when I am ill. The voice of authority when I've done wrong.
Do not chastise me unduly For I am your right arm, The sword at your side. I attempt to do only what you bid of me. I seek only to please you and remain in your favor.
Together you and I shall experience A bond only others like us will understand When outsiders see us together Their envy will be measured by their disdain.
I will quietly listen to you And pass no judgment, Nor will your spoken words be repeated I will remain ever silent, Ever vigilant, ever loyal. And when our time together is done And you move on in the world Remember me with kind thoughts and tales, For a time we were unbeatable, Nothing passed among us undetected.
If we should meet again on another street I will gladly take up your fight, I am a Police Working Dog and together We are guardians of the night.
Author unknown
Post by: guest on May 25, 2013, 07:14:00 AM
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Post by: prototype on May 25, 2013, 12:38:49 PM
Frumosi amandoi, oricum. :cool:
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Post by: prototype on May 16, 2014, 09:09:16 AM
Toata baza-n el. :lol:
Post by: guest on May 16, 2014, 10:17:53 AM
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Post by: guest on July 09, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/amazing-military-dogs
Post by: guest on August 08, 2014, 01:55:10 AM
Nero got tired after playing and we went inside to rest. He began to slow down so we decided to leave and come home. After everything was packed I picked him up to carry him to the car. While I was holding him in my arms Nero took his last breath and peacefully left this world. He was surrounded by his mom and his dad and blanketed with love.
Nero was met by his shift when we arrived home and took one final ride in his patrol vehicle with a full police escort. He did so many great things as a police K9, but he was more to that to the people who knew and loved him. He will truly missed. I love you son, rest easy now.
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Post by: dux on December 20, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaUkEIQ0iAA