Well that's a good question and I am sort of new to this new type training that my own trainer does. I think he either is a member now or will be once he is settled down in Afghanistan, so I won't speak for him, but I have seen him use a rag with a young dog...and when he does the dog is biting for real...like in hidden sleeve work, it doesn't work forever before the dog realizes it's not real..but that first bite they think it is if worked right. (For example, Bob told me that he noticed that the decoy working Axa as a puppy was preparing her for sport but also was a good decoy because he was also not taking away too much her potential for real protection in the way he worked her).
More of what I know for sure from my own observations has to do with what I think I should NOT to do as opposed what to do...for me....like not carrying sleeves or purposely turning your dog's back to the "bad guy" to run in a circle with a toy. Teaching drive for and possessiveness of an inanimate object makes no sense when the bad guy is over there. And not only people teach drive for inanimate objects, they then go on to breed for that trait instead of breeding for the instinct to actually protect. I also think that people are in such a hurry to work their dogs that they start them way to young teaching them these wrong things, instead of waiting until they're older and capitalizing on the instincts that kick in when they are more mature. Young dogs are taught against that, and the ones that are easiest to teach against it are bred (Sch comes to mind).
asta e o intrebare buna, iar eu sunt mai nou in ceea ce priveste tipul asta de dresaj pe care dresorul meu il face.Cred ca ori este membru pe forum , ori va deveni membru odata ce se va stabili in afganistan, asa ca nu voi vorbi pentru el,dar l-am vazut folosing o carpa cu un caine tanar...si cand o foloseste cainele musca pentru real...la fel si cu maneca ascunsa, nu lucreaza prea mult , ca sa nu-si dea seama cainele ca nu e real...dar prima muscatura cainele crede ca este reala, in cazul in care este lucrata asa cum trebuie.(Spre exemplu Bob, mi-a spus ca atentatorul care a lucrat-o pe Axa cand era pui o pregatea pentru sport, dar ca e un atentator bun si pentru ca nu i-a luat prea mult din potentialul pentru realitate, prin felul in care a lucrat cu ea).
Ceea ce stiu sigur din observatiile mele,are mai mult legatura cu ceea ce NU ar trebui sa fac, decat cu ceea ce ar trebui sa fac...pentru mine...de exemplu sa nu dau cainelui sa duca maneca, sau sa nu intorc intentionat cainele cu spatele la infractor pentru a purta jucaria in cerc.
Sa-l invat sa lupte pentru a poseda un obiect al infractorului, nu are nici un rost atat cat timp infractorul este acolo.Si nu doar ca se invata cainele sa posede un obiect al infractorului, dar se trece la selectia cainilor special pentru aceasta caracteristica in loc sa se faca selectia tinand cont de instinctul de protectie.Mai cred ca oamenii se grabesc prea tare sa-si lucreze cainii, astfel incat ii invata de mici aceste lucruri gresite, in loc sa astepte sa creasca cainele si sa profite de instinctele ce apar mai tarziu, spre maturitate.
Cainii tineri sunt dresati contrar acestui principiu, iar cei ce invata cel mai usor in felul acesta sunt selectati(SCh imi vine in minte)